Introducing the ultimate in Bonnaroo podcast collaborations! We team up with Parker and Jake from RooHamm and Daniel and Sharla from the Roo Bus for an epic conversation about Bonnaroo, music, and of course Hamms beer with a live tasting. Will Lord Taco give up PBR for Hamms? Listen and find out!
A Barry Courter, I would call this a quarterie. Is this a quarterie? A click for sure. A quarterie maybe perhaps. You're the writer. You're the smart guy. Dad? Uh, it's an event. We're gonna go with that. I don't know. I come up with the word quarterie and you come up with event. I'm not even sure what that means. It is a group of like-minded folk. Oh, nice. You mean like all y'all here? All yuns here. That's Barry Courter. I'm Brad Steiner. There's Lord Taco. And down there at the bottom, we've got underage kids that have shown up. What has happened, Barry? We've got children that have snuck into Lord Taco's bus. Yeah. No, you did. That's good. Quarterie. That's a good. I'm gonna use that in a sentence in a story this week. You just Google searched it, didn't you? No, I'm proud that you know what that means. You Google searched it. Parker from the RooHamm podcast and then Jake, his son, is here. What I love about the fact that Parker, of course, you're living where, by the way? Where do you live? In Iowa, Des Moines. Iowa. Your bus looks great. Yeah. I actually remodeled it to look like Russ's. Nice. Good work. Yeah, it's strange. You and Barry and me and Jake are all in the same place. It's weird because Jake just looked like he teleported. Yeah, it's weird. You look like you were just in a Goodwill. Where are you living? That can't be Mom's house. Oh, no, it can't. I'm up in Minneapolis. Okay. Well, thanks for cleaning the house. I think you might be severely underestimating my age. I loved it. You're your guest. Enjoy a lot of last night. Yeah, right. Go with it. I love the sweet sultry sounds of the... Now, if there's anybody that in my world has more of a... Let's put it this way. You guys love buses. We've got three people on this call that just absolutely love buses. Daniel and Sharla from the Roo Bus. Can we take a tour of the bus? I've actually never been in. Can I swing the camera around? Yes. Absolutely, you can. Let's see if we can figure this out real quick. I'm not too tethered. Yeah. All right. Sharla and I are at one of the front tables in here. Here is the dash. You can see the wheel behind me. Let's see if we can get up here. Oh, here we go. That's okay. We brought dinner in here tonight. The bus... I'm serious. We were eating a little bit before we started recording, so my apologies. Well, you're in Alabama. Did you catch it in the yard? All right. I'm coming back here. Look at that. The connection stays. Yeah. It looks great. So, coming in the back, back here, and this is where there's a king-size bed and two twin beds that double as a couch. We'll just have to get the tour. Okay. So, here's the deal. Lord Taco stays in his bus maybe three times a week. How often do you guys stay in your bus? Not that often. Really? In fact, during the off season, I'm out here maybe once a week. We take the bus, obviously, to Bonnery every June, but we go camping a couple of times, in a normal year that isn't consumed with the Rona. We do a couple of fun things here in Huntsville, where we take it to driving concerts and different... wherever I can take it and make a scene. I got you. I got you. At least once a month, it feels like. Now, you guys crammed into Lord Taco's bus and moved him out. What happened to Russ? I'm going to guess we got another little potty break. He's good for doing these things. He's a stock in his PBR. Yeah, well. What's crazy is, you're like, hey, I wonder where Russ has gone. Then you look down and he's got seven empty PBRs. Oh, I probably figure out where they are. He's back. He's back. I was like... So from you guys, it always feels like I hear at least four cans crack. Yeah, they're all tacos. Every single one of those Lord Tacos. Barry, what's on the docket for tonight? What do we got going on? Well, I think it's interesting to point out all the people on this have had podcasts. That's part of why we're connected. The bus is obviously the Rue bus and Russ with the bus. But my big... What do you have in your hand? Parker and Jake were pretty great to send us all cans of hams, right? A canned ham? Like on Dean Lutter? Canned ham. We got a canned ham. Got a canned ham. It showed up on my porch. Showed up on my porch. So I think we're going to sample this. I got a ham too. And here's what I just guessed. It's not going to taste any differently from when it was in the fridge to when it was on my porch. I don't think there's going to be any difference between the two. I got to say this is going to be the first time that Charlotte and I have ever had this. Parker sent us this. Thank you so much, by the way. Yeah, of course. As soon as I saw your name and that it was from Iowa, I was like, oh my God, I know what this is. I just started laughing. Right. So I packaged it and then I went to the post office and I handed it off to the woman behind the counter and I said, with your life, get these to Alabama. Technically, you committed a felony for Alabama because you're not supposed to be able to ship alcohol. He was also holding a knife. We had some conversations about that. It's the same law here, actually. So yeah, Parker literally texted me and was like, yeah, take that part out. Wait, there's alcohol in this? Yeah. The weird thing, Barry, is that usually when I get packages from Iowa, it's just weed. This time it's a premium beer, which is unfortunate. It's not an award winner. Lourde Taco, please explain the difference between a PBR and a Ham's. Well, the PBR won a blue ribbon. What award did Ham's win again? The Rue Ham stamp of approval. Good. Only slightly biased. Sharla, are you going to sample? I know you're part of a 30-day cleanse. I've hit the 30 days. Well done. What a way to celebrate. What a way to come off the wagon. You might go right back on. Is it time? Are we opening? Yeah. I've got to slow this thing down here for a second. First off, Barry Courter, you've got a podcast with us. You've got the Rue Ham podcast. You've got the Rue Bus podcast. I don't like this because I feel like all of our listeners are in one place. I'm just going to actually listen to the show. It's very possible. It's pretty incestuous. All right. Let's open it up. Because I'm usually listening to you guys when I'm running in our neighborhood. So I'm like, oh, wait, yeah, I can talk back to them now. Yeah. I can answer, answer away. But here we go. All right. So by the way, so show a hand. How many times have you actually had a hand? Anybody the first time hams drinker from the room? Yeah, I've had hams. All right. I mean, I. OK. Let's just just try it. Let's just give it a go. But does this need to be in like a special glassware? Does it need a very special glass? Yeah, the most expensive glass you got. Oh, Charlotte, show them your special glass. I have the 1982 World's Fair glass. Nice. Knoxville. It only increased the flavor. The beer is going to taste like 1982. It's a good year. And I use my Bonnaroo. I almost wonder, Parker and Jake, if you guys should give us the whole what should we anticipate? What are we? Notes? Are we looking? Brad's a big beer snob. So we need to go ahead. Yeah. I'd give the deep smell first. When it hits your tongue, just kind of let it sit in there for a little bit. Push back and forth and yeah, think about the thing about the north and this is like everything that goes with it. It's like the first time I was with a girl. She said the same thing. You're you're going to remember this just as well. I promise. Can you guys explain this a little bit? Like what is the significance? Is it something that's just regional up there in the Midwest or what? Yeah. So the hams is I'm I'm pretty sure it started in Wisconsin and then it got bought out by a Minnesota based brewery because at least where I live downtown, you can go to a there's a ham statue and like a dedicated square. I'm not kidding. Two hams where their mascot is Sasha. Sasha and go around the go around the room here and see everybody's first impression of the hams. Mine is tastes a little like Kovan. Blast me. Blast me. This is what it tastes like. Barry Courter hams experience tasted pretty much like what I expected. Tasted like PBR and some of the other. What would you call them? American beers that I grew up with. Yeah, I know what I've noticed with Lord Taka is doing. The man who loves PBR more than anything in the world. He's going from hams to PBR back and forth. Washing his palate off. I think Russ is already done with it. Yeah. What do you think? Wow. Oh my gosh. Before we go. Well, hang on a second. Before we get to taco, he's going to have to be the hardest one to sway. Sharla, Daniel, what do you think? You first, babe. It tastes like a natty, but better. That's high praise. Honestly. Yeah, that's you know, you could have stopped the sentence at Natty Lake. You didn't really have to go any further. It's better than a Natty. Oh, yeah, better. I feel like I should be sitting in a pool hall somewhere in Minnesota drinking this. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. That's good vibes. It's like a premium. It's like a premium Natty. Yeah. How do you guys drink this? I'm already. Well, last year we actually drank more of the ham special light, which is a rare. Yeah, you can use the light. You can blow through those a little faster. Some special light. They make it light. It's like very easy, but it's special. Here we go. The drum roll for Lord Taco's official review of the hams. First time ham drinker, Russ Jackson. Can't wait to. Oh, special glass. It's good. That's all right. That is a good review from him. Honestly, yeah, I expected him to kind of. This is a little more of a metallic taste than PBR. You're drinking out of a metal glass, metal cup. That's why. That's true. I am drinking it out of the Bonnaroo glass. That's where it's meant to be. You know, I took some sips out of the can too. All right, here's the deal. As a as an avid beer drinker, I will give you guys a lot of credit. First off, you guys are insane for loving a, you know, a lager so much. It's nuts how you guys just you and Taco, you guys are all the same type. You know, it's all this. Who loves brands this much? You're as bad as golfers, you know, you know, golfers have to have the logos everywhere. That's what you guys are. That's what nobody's paying you. Take the brands off. Hey, we technically have gotten merch, though. We got an entire merch package sent by Ham's last year. So I mean, that's getting that's about as good sponsorship as you're going to get. That is pretty good. All right. I'm going to start talking about banks. That's the case. I'm just talking about banks over and over and over. So look, as an avid beer drinker, I'm going to say that it is very much like you guys do. It's crushable. It's very nice. I feel as though it's crushable. All right. It's much colder. It's just a tad too sweet for me. You know, it's just a tad too sweet. All right. And I got to be real. I've never. And here's what I appreciate about this is I've never put that much thought into what I'm drinking right now. That's the problem. I think that's also the appeal is that I don't know where I'm going. You don't have to like it. You're right. Well, yeah. Well, quantity, quantity. See, we should point out. So Brad, like I said, is a beer snob. He drinks the craft beers and, you know, Russ would will drink nothing if he can't get his PBR. Right. I mean, if they don't have it at the bar that I've been there with him, he won't drink it. He'll drink water. I got him to try some crap stuff when he met us at the Speakeasy Roo a couple of months ago. I'm surprised. That is true. And I think Kyle brought a craft beer that he wanted me to try. The only way I buy that. No, no. I know taco very well. The only way I know I buy that is if he was absolutely shithammered. Oh, he was sober. No, I got him to try one from Huntsville. He liked it. Did he do it just like he did? Was I sober? He had the PBR in the one hand so he could wash it. No, he's monogamous. Wow. He stuck to it. I'm stunned. I'm stunned. So just go around here for a second. We know the story behind Roo Bus, but why the love of the hams? And then how in the world do you fit that into your love of Bonnaroo, kids? How does that work? Well, what's kind of ironic is that hams was brought into my life described as the worst beer ever from a friend of mine from school. And then Jake just happened to know about hams as well when we became friends. Was it the only beer that we had in our trunk? Yeah, we didn't know how much. Because it was left there when you bought the car? All great love stories starting with, she just, what's wrong? It wasn't the only alcohol. Yeah, we didn't know how much to bring or at least I didn't because it was my first year at Bonnaroo. And so I was going for kind of a quantity over quality thing. Now I know it's more of a quality thing. But at the time, quantity over quality. And so I brought a bunch of hams. And I think Parker brought lining coogles or something. And so we get to Bonnaroo and he's like, what the hell is hams? And I was like, I don't know, you know, anyway, hams was. Or well, you were like, it was weird why I would bring it. And I was like, oh, it was like 10 bucks. And you're like, oh, yeah, makes sense. But would you ever like dabble with something along the same lines as something like a beer 30? Have you ever heard of the beer 30? No, no. Yeah, it's or an Iron City or are you describing shitty beers right now? In your world, they are a plus. Walgreens has a beer called Big Flats, I think. Yeah, Kroger's used to have a cost cutter beer. You could get a case for eight dollars. I think it's just everybody sitcom dad beer just says beer on the side. I don't know if it's actually even a exactly. And so you guys you guys had a friendship and you can you combined your your love of hams into a Bonnaroo trip. Well, kind of how it like what what really cemented it into the Bonnaroo lore for us was that we accidentally left it out in the sun and it was the only beer we had at one point and it was hot as shit. And so that was the only and, you know, we're tired into a baby. It survived our first son. So that's how it kind of our first son. But yes, so they're actually so we joke that they're meant to be baked in the sun in someone's card I wrote. Yes, I said this in the oven. It's going to taste. Yeah, yeah. It hadn't been out long enough. Leave it alone. Yeah, it needs to age in the sun. It's like a fine wine. Yeah, sure. So we brought any of these to the Red River Exchange. I think they would have laughed at us. What we learned is that they only want IPA's there. We bought brought one kind and nobody wanted it. So we ended up having just give it all away basically at the end because no one wanted to take our can I talk about this beer exchange for a second? Although I love the idea, it is it is not like any beer exchange I could ever wrap my head around because you're just it's just a free for all. You know, you find somebody that has something good. They're not giving it up. And there's always a guy that's walking around, you know, with, you know, giant sacks of beer that he pulled out of the thing. How would you manage getting something good from that from that exchange without, you know, I mean, I'm trading stuff, but I'm getting, you know, a sweet water for 20 after the whole thing. So you're kind of crazy that people are able to like game that system. Now it's been along for so long. Like they know how to know how to read it for themselves. The year we went, sours were the commodity. Everybody wanted sours. So you had like a nice IPA. You could trade for sour, but unless you had get anything else and you're basically in the lager at that point. Yeah, I mean, you got to you got to really get a when I walked in, I brought my stuff and I just dumped everything in thinking that it was, you know, something different. I lost all of my beers that way. I had nothing to trade, so I had to walk around and like, can I just have something just to hand around? The trick is you got to go right when it begins. It becomes like the Hunger Games because everybody puts everything into these little kiddie pools. Everybody jumps in trying to get what they're looking for. And yeah, I'm the guy that's looking for the sour. So yeah, and Red Roo does this right? Red Roo does this. Yeah. Who does this? Yeah, it's Camp Red Roo. Honestly, I was just talking with Mitchell the other day, one of the guys that helps put that on. I feel like it's probably the best fan run event in the campgrounds. It has grown like tremendously. They've had DJs and bands play it. They should just put it on the official schedule. Oh, yeah, we were blown away when we went. Yeah, it was huge. It was it was much bigger than we thought. I can't think of anything, Daniel, that I mean, you guys have done similar with your show that you've done Wednesday night and all. I mean, those are probably two of the bigger fan based things that I can think of. They had a hidden bar. That was amazing. They did. They did the monkey bar. Yep. That is a win for me. A bar that's totally hidden that had a bartender. That is. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty good. They make special drinks for Bonnery. I think one of them last year was the Manchester Mule. I don't know what was in it, but it did it for me. I think I had one of those. I don't remember much after having exactly. Yeah. That's how you get to take a taco to experiment with things. I think I had that once. So they yeah, the Manchester Mule and then our friends repeat repeat, didn't they create a beer or the brewery out of Atlanta? Pontoon brewing. Pontoon. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's amazing what's grown out of this whole thing. Red Roo had their own beer with pontoon too. Actually, I think I've got the label back here somewhere. We made a magnet out of it. They partnered with them and it was a sour in. I'm not kidding. I'm not saying this because my buddies had a hand in it, but it is the best sour I've ever had. Pontoon out of Alpharetta, I think they're legit. Yeah. Yes. North Atlanta. When what about your event, Daniel, Sharla? What do you guys usually try to put together and when are you usually make it like, for instance, if you're going to have it this year, were you going to how long do you have to start planning this thing out? Well, two years ago is when we had the Repeat Repeat show next to the bus and I on top of the bus a little bit because Jared scared the crap out of me and ran on top of this thing while he was doing a guitar solo. I don't know how he didn't break his neck. We were going to do a thing last year where we were going to have DJs and I guess I can let this slip now since it fell through and because of the traffic and everything, terrible was possibly going to come by. Paul McCartney. Of course, yeah, I know and then this year, of course, that didn't happen. We were. Who did you say you're going to have, by the way? I'm sorry, I stepped all over that. What did you say you're going to have? Last year, we were within spitting distance of having Cherub come out to the bus. But I mean, it's boundary Cherub is going to be playing a bank of Florida bodies. Yeah, they couldn't get off of their shift of Taco Bell. Make that happen. Don't give them a hard time. They're such good guys. But this year we did have some plans. We were able to talk with our mutual friend Jeff up at AC and we were potentially going to have the bus out at the new group camp thing and we were basically going to have like fraternity row of like all the big bomber groups. So like potentially, you know, Red Roo and everybody would have been in this new group area that was going to be moved a little bit. So it would have been them camp trying to go to bed who does the Roo shoot stuff. Lindsay and Celia from Roo Fitness, a bunch of other places would have been in the same place and we would have used the new group plaza barn or tent as kind of like the main hub for all these events. So what if you're somebody that has been in the same spot every year, you don't worry about that being picked up and put to a completely new spot. Well, it doesn't worry you. You should talk with one of the group camp people about that. Some of them were a little upset about it because they had been in the same spots for years. You know, they had their shade picked out and everything kind of like you guys do in the back, you know. So they were a little miffed about that. But this is me speaking for myself. I wasn't that worried about it because it would have been that, you know, pretty much an equal walk anyway. Right. We were going to jump in. We were going to jump into group this year. It was exciting for us. It was exciting for us. But obviously this has been a first time. So we have no clout in the group. Yeah. So where do you guys, where are you guys usually set up? In GA? Real GA? Well, I know that, but like, do you, you, you don't have like a group camping thing? What was your pod last year? We were in two last year. We, we technically had an event that had zero attendees. I'm going to guess it was the hams. Yeah. It was the hams. We, we, technically we, we had a giveaway. Someone did win it. Someone did win it. But the person, I tried to get in contos on like three or four times during the week. You say they won it, but really did they? Nope. They were because it was off. You just didn't want to carry it back home. The guy messaged me several times wanting to get his prize and we literally couldn't meet cause he wanted to meet at the childish Gambino pit. And I told him, you know, that's not going to happen or nothing. Sorry. Outside, outside. It was merch. It was a hat. It was a hat in plus beer. So I mean, that's, you can't get much better than that to his credit. It is hard to say we're in pod two. You walk past the building, you find the trash can, you take a left. Yeah, it took us, it took us 45 minutes to find the beer exchange and we were in a cart. And we had our golf cart. Yeah. It was funny. Is, is like the group area is not that far out. And like you guys went like a third of the way I did the, um, the five pay run twice over the years and yeah, I can talk about that later, but I did not believe how far back the camps go. Like the walks to the group area is nothing compared to like the walk to where like that church building is over there across the Bushy branch. It's insane. Yeah. So I do know how long that walk is because the, the story that I don't know if we've ever told on the air, uh, Barry, but, uh, my very first ever Bonnaroo was the worst weekend of my entire life period. I mean, uh, beaten as a child, um, left by his father alone. It didn't matter how bad my childhood would was or my future would be the worst weekend of my life was Bonnaroo. And um, I, uh, I got there and me and my buddy, his name is dude. Uh, we got to the, and yeah, we, we got there on a fr, I'll never forget. We drove in and we saw Dave Matthews playing as we drove. Look at you at the time. You could see the stage as you drove in because you're driving, driving on the main road. So, Oh, look, there's Dave Matthews. We could saw it on the screen. And so, um, we just keep driving as we turn left. I can't see it. Can't see it. Can't see it. Can't see it. Now it's totally gone. We are so far, uh, up again. I mean, there are, I don't know if it's there anymore, but up against the woods line, right? All the way out in that back 40 area. Right? So first off, my first experience was walking in, which was a 45 minute walk, um, at the time, and I don't know if this is still the deal, but shakedown street was a real, real thing. And it was not just what you think. There was a dude selling a dryer door as a mad house of you as you could ever imagine still there. I need one. What brand and color and color use coffee filters. It was everything that you like. These guys were just like begging for a dollar anyway. So we get in, it was miserably hot. It was awful. And then the torrential downpour hits. Uh, and we're soaking wet. So you're carrying your hair product, your giant mirror. Yeah. And all at the same time. Yeah. Okay. I just want to set the stage here. So I mean, this is, I was even more of a diva then. Uh, so this was year two, was this year two or three, Barry? I can't remember Dave Matthews and friends is the year two or three. I can't remember. So we get back by the second day. We're miserable, absolutely miserable. We're so mad. The first night though, because we're parked so far out there, Daniel, and we have no idea how to get back. There's no signs at this point. There's no lights. You have to literally just mark cars and hope to God you can remember it by the evening. So if you took one wrong turn, you were gone for probably half an hour walking. I have giant camp flags at that time. No, no, they didn't. This was the wild, wild west, man. This is wild, you know, the camp balloons. None of that happened. So now it's easy. You can be like, Oh, go turn next to the alien holding a dildo and you're right there. No. So, Oh, I know what that is. That was actually, I can still feel his beard. So you take it, you take a wrong turn and all of a sudden I'm, we're now walking 20 minutes down, down this path. And on the right, we walk up to a car on fire. On the left, there is a giant bus like thing and someone peeing off the side and a woman who's butt ass naked runs straight to me, grabs me by the throat, slinkies down my body screaming LSD. I kick her off of my leg as she's now holding my ankle and we just fucking bolt double back where we came from thinking that we made the wrong turn. We finally get back to camp and that's when we lose it. We are panicked. We got to get the hell out of here. So the rain just starts pouring down on us, pouring down and pouring down and we're trying, we are 20 yards away from the exit and we just can't wait to get out of this hell hole. That is this disaster of a, of a experience and our car gets stuck. So we can't get the car out and we're stuck there for the rest of the night. So we sleep in the car until the morning of there's this redneck kid driving up and down the road who's pulling people out of their cars at $20 a pop. We literally get the car pulled out and we race. And at the point my buddy dude, and I hate saying this, he was driving over campsites. He was so mad and wanted to get out. He was driving over tents. I'm like, dude, you just broke. I think you might've ran over a person. I don't care. It was the worst experience I've ever had. And that was what got me so sour on the idea of GA and why I never, ever, ever went back. It was that walk that you talked about that I never wanted to ever experience again. I couldn't do it. It took two years to get me back. It took two years. I think you should write a screenplay. You might be able to sell the film rights to that. Yeah. It's called cast away. You know, you're, you feel like you're all alone on an island. It is a, have you ever watched the movie falling down with Michael Douglas? Or yes. Yes. That's what it felt like. But so it gets to, you're the exception though. You did go back. Everyone we've talked to on this show, we talked about it. We've all had these. I know that, but I went back because what the guy told me, my, my contact at the, at the festival, he told me you went through the wrong entrance. I had the wrong campsite. I had the wrong credential. I had everything wrong and I accidentally camped in the wrong spot. I was supposed to be, you know, where we are now and never had these problems, but because I did, I made it, we made a wrong turn. It soured me for three years and it took, it took the wife to bring me back. It did to the wife and death cab for cutie to bring me back. Brad, I gotta tell you, some people are still having these kinds of experiences. I mean, I've seen people doing some crazy things that I won't necessarily mentioned on the podcast, but like, okay, so the rain and the mud, I had seen that kind of thing happen two times in recent years. I think it was 2017. It rained on Sunday really bad and out there in the general emission RV section, people were basically going mud bogging in front of us. Like so many people were leaving in their RVs. It had made like a giant rut that had to be like a dozen feet deep. And I don't know how in the world that they got all that, except people were coming by on tractors and I think making some devious deals to get them out. And it was last year, it rained on the day coming in and I heard horrors that were stuck out on the highway for like over 12 hours. You mean that Wednesday night? Yeah, you know, I mean, look, we, we, we talk a lot about, you know, our blessed Bonnaroo lifestyle, but you know, the, the year that will go on named and unmentioned is the reason why I feel so much compassion for the people that have to do this and do it with a smile on their face and do it with so much happiness and can still bring themselves to, you know, stand for, you know, some shitty band like rich Brian or something, you know, it's something like that is unbelievable to me. And they're the people that I find much more, much more tied to Bonnaroo than me. These guys, that's what I want to ask. And I want to, I'll ask Charlotte, I guess is, is Daniel always this positive? Oh, 24 seven. I think I know her with it. I mean, the, you know, I've said it before, I just think, you know, your Bonnaroo attitude is, is so on the money that that's why I think people enjoy listening to the podcast or whatever, but you just seem to get it. Were you that way before you always that way? And no, in fact, I'll be transparent. I'm like around a year, year and a half ago, I was like kind of in a rut, you know, a depression or whatever. But then, you know, that was a while after we had had the bus and like something clicked in my head. I was like, you know what, I haven't been practicing what I'm preaching. And then I figured that like, I had to like, kind of have more of like a radiate positivity mindset like all day, every day. And I've been feeling great for the past year. I mean, same with like Parker and Jake. And I think it's all of us. The fact that we didn't have a Bonnaroo this year and we're still doing podcasts. We're still talking about this thing. Yeah, but Barry, you kick your puppy. Well, yeah, when, you know, when the cameras are off. Well, I mean, it's kind of like, you know, I guess all of us in this chat, it's like, you know, you put so much, you know, some amount of effort into something and then it's just like, it's just taken away. It's like the bottom drops out from what you do. I mean, yeah, you know, when you, how about this, when you got the news that it wasn't going to happen, were you as worried about COVID as you should have been? Or did the Bonnaroo thing sort of snap you into reality? Because I distinctly remember a moment that I got pulled into reality and figured out that this thing was a much bigger problem than, than anybody, at least I had led on to believe, right? I'll never forget a conversation me and Barry had early on. I was like, ah, no, this is not, it's the summer. It'll be fine. Hang out. It will happen. They've got all this time to make this work. I was such a denier. And then something specifically happened that shook me and I was like, oh my God, this is not going to happen for another year and a half. I wonder if there was like realists, like Bonnaroo realism that hit and ship people to their core. Yeah, it's, I mean, I remember back in like March, Parker has a friend who he's a journalist down in Tennessee and he reached out to us just talking about once Bonnaroo was canceled, kind of our thoughts on it. And I remember thinking that, oh, you know, it wasn't a big deal. Like even if it got delayed a couple of months, I'd probably still go. I think it kind of depends on where you live, at least up in Minnesota cases were still pretty limited and the spread really wasn't as bad. And so, you know, that's the only perspective I have. And so I thought, you know, I can't, it's going to get better probably by July or not. Sorry, not by July, by the end of the year. And then, yeah, I mean, as, you know, as I had to work from home and, you know, I'm sure as cases grew in Iowa with Parker, yeah, we both realized that like there's, there's no way that this can happen. Even if it were to happen in September, I just don't know if the constant stress and anxiety of thinking about COVID would really make it a fun event to be at. Yeah. And Barry asks us all the time, would you actually go if you, if it was, if it was held in September, like if, if things, that was the question you asked the other day. If there is a vaccine, would you go? If there is a, like, if it was still in June, we're still dealing with what we have to deal with. Would you take the vaccine and go, or would you experience it in a bubble or do you experience it in a drive-in? Would you experience, would you experience it any other way than you have in the past? Yeah, I, it's tough because I really value the whole camping experience. And so for me, if it was anything less than that, you know, like you just mentioned a drive-through, I would almost rather not have it and just wait till next year to have a full experience. If you're asking me if I would go just in general, I mean, if, if there were measures in place that made sense and, you know, I mean, a vaccine would make a huge difference, I think in my mind. But if there was no vaccine and it's kind of like it is now, I just, I don't really see how you could possibly stop a spread with that many people. I mean, people aren't going to social distance at a concert. It's just not going to happen. And you know, especially when they're shirtless. Yeah, you're going to have liquids on you. That was, that was Jake at Rich Brian's shirt off. And also it kind of brings things into like a perspective, like how last year, God, we're gross. We found two jewels on the ground and decided to utilize them. And I can't imagine that in 2020. That wouldn't have happened. Run them shoes. My skin is crawling. It was so bad. It's a way of life at the other. That's the GA experience pretty much in a nutshell right there. I picked up a koozie from a hotel bathroom and that's like my favorite. He's going to bring that up again. That was an ex-girlfriend. I got a ground score one year. She found like a really cool blue t-shirt that I still wear to this day. That was a floozy. Oh, gotcha. Floozy, not a koozie. Got it. What did you pick up Daniel? So one of the best experiences that I would recommend to somebody is like stick around on Monday because first of all, you can rest up a little bit before you head home, but also those are the best ways to get ground scores. Like we've gotten the little inflatable bag. I told y'all I got a chill bow bag. And like there's still a shirt that I wear to this day that she found on the ground. It was a cool shirt, like all kinds of cool things. I believe it's just going to go to the dump otherwise. Sharley, you said, I know I've heard in a couple of the podcasts that you guys did that, and we haven't talked about this in a while because the Bonnaroo hasn't happened, but with the whole changes out in GA and the things, it almost is like you'd rather hang out with friends and group camping than maybe see a show. I mean, that's essentially what they did a couple of months ago. Yeah. And I just wonder stuff like that, how that even, it's hard to imagine what Bonnaroo is going to look like, whether it's June or September or when it comes back, just because of what we're just talking about. The large crowds, the bathroom, the showers, the group camping. I feel like even if it's in three years, it'll look radically different. Oh, for sure. As unfortunate as that is. I visited a camp that I worked at and they said that the measures that are going to be in place next year are identical to this summer, no matter what the status is of the world. And I would have to imagine it's the same for a hundred thousand people events. Wait, wait, say that again. Say what you just said again. What camp are you talking about? You went to a camp? There was a camp that I worked at in Northern Minnesota and they said that no matter what the status is next year, that the guidelines that they have to follow next summer are identical to this summer. If they weren't open, but other ones were. Well, okay. So the reason I, what strikes a chord with me when you say that is, you're assuming that something's going to happen between now and summer. And I think that what I was saying earlier about the moment that everything hit and made me change my entire thought process of this is when Coachella didn't just cancel, but they canceled for next year too. And that was like, oh my God, if they can't, and then right after that, I can't remember if it was a week or two weeks, but then I kept saying to Barry, I kept saying the same antidote over and over. And I said, this only becomes a thing when Disney closes, because if Disney is going to close, then you know that billionaires can't survive. Right. So I mean, two weeks later, Disney closed, I'm like, oh, we're screwed. And you know, Coachella not happening in the fall. And then you get, you basically, from everybody that I talked to, feels nothing's going to happen in the first two quarters of the year. That means June is out. I mean, I think that you're looking at September again next year before, you know, some of this stuff starts to come back. And even then, I don't know how comfortable I'm going to feel. And I say that as a total diva. And I understand that. And you guys probably live a much different, you know, especially Bonnaroo life than I do. But Barry, you know me, I can't, I'm not high fiving people. I think that's what Parker wrote. I mean, I don't mean to put words in your mouth, Parker, but I don't think what you were referring to necessarily. I don't think he cares. I don't think what you were talking about so much was the timing of it as so much as the measure, the things that we're doing. Like I know one of the local groups here, I think they teach dance to kids or something, but they were talking about getting, doing away with water fountains, taking them out, you know, closing them off, things like that, you know, measures like that, things that we're just used to now are gone, you know, and those are the things I think what you're saying probably aren't coming back, you know. So that's what I mean. That's what, and I think we can tease it. I don't think we're giving anything away, but it's interesting to me, Bonnaroo is going to do something online here in the next week or two. They put a graphic up today that was their social media avatars. It was virtual reality, I think is what they're calling it. We're supposed to talk to them here in the next couple of days and get that information. But hey, you know what? It's not like I have any special, I'm going to guess it's an online concert. Yeah. That's why I'm going to guess it's performances from bands that should have been there this year. That's right. And that's why I'm not breaking news guys. Somebody tell Festival Owl. That's why I'm not trying to sell it is that I'm just saying that's what they're going to do. But it's interesting that they haven't announced it yet. They're still trying to figure it out. And I think Brad and I have talked about that multiple times. Nobody knows. You know, that's what's so weird. Have you guys watched any virtual shows? Have you in Gano? Barry's watched a ton. What about you guys? You've been watching any of it? I feel like some artists and their labels are starting to finally figure out a good way of doing these things. I didn't get to watch it because we were busy with something else. But I saw that St. Paul was doing an online show a week or so ago, and they were doing some more interactive stuff. And Old Crow is doing a show from the Ryman Saturday where they're doing a lot more like that. And I think it's a good job with the Heartland Hootenanny. It's like a modern version of He-Haw. It's kind of silly and ridiculous, but it's so much fun. Damn. Stole my idea. You said Heartland Hootenanny? I do think Grand Ole Opry Bonnaroo has announced that they're going to be doing something. Yeah, Ricky Skaggs. Good, because I haven't slept well lately. Dude, don't hate on Ricky Skaggs. He's like the best mandolin player ever. It was legitimately the biggest disappointment I think I might have ever had. Aside from the hams. I saw you gave up. No, it's empty. I'm about to go get my second one here in a second. The Grand Ole Opry show was maybe one of the biggest disappointments I've ever had. Everybody's disappointed with that. We were there too. I was ready to love it. I was raving about it in the weeks leading up to Bonnaroo. By the time that Riders in the Sky are trying to get the crowd going by playing old Toy Story songs, I was just like, this isn't working. It's interesting you say that because I think me and Parker actually look pretty fondly on that. I don't know about you, Parker, but at least a lot of our group wasn't into it, but we were like, kind of the novelty of it's kind of fun. Maybe it's because we're not used to those type of shows, but at least we were kind of into it. I thought the show was fine. I've said this before. It was the dead space between songs where they reset stuff that I think did it in. When Catch and Old Crow came back out, it became the Hootenanny again. Those guys know the Bonnaroo crowd, and then you had to get it fired up. Then it became like an old man mosh pit up in there. Everybody brings out their board to Buckdance on it. It was like that. It was out. It took an hour and a half to get there. It took an hour and a half to get there. I just can't. It was slow. It was very, very slow. It was so slow. If I wanted to spend an hour looking at guys dressed like that, I'd just do drugs. I don't know what they were wearing. I don't know what that was, but it didn't work for me. I will say, the year before that, when Ed Helms was still around, when he was doing his Americana Bluegrass show, it was on fire. That was the best show like that that I have seen in my seven or eight years of Bonnaroo. The year before that, it was a little off-kilter because it was the day of that Pulse nightclub shooting and everybody was not there. Year following, he brought out everyone and that was such a fun show. Have any of you done the bathrobe party? No. I heard that's where you want to go though. I'm dying to. The problem is that a bunch of... Let me put it this way. The bathrobe doesn't have a very secure locking mechanism. I'm not necessarily the fondest of seeing a lot of skin or showing a lot of skin. I thought you were looking at the package. You don't want to pull a Chris Evans from your mouth to God's ear as part. Me and Barry talked about this, about getting in the bathrobe, but it's those kinds of stuff that... Those kinds of events that I'm dying to know if they're any good. I'm sure they're going to be fine. That's in Jake and Snakes, right? Yeah, that's in Jake and Snakes. Which by the way, come to New Orleans, you go to the original one. It's as big as this room. All right, Brad, we'll come. You're in the bus. Come on over. We went to... Here's the thing about Snake and Jake's. I can't imagine all of the events are too different from each other. The difference is that everyone's in robes at one of them. We went to one at like... You mean like it's silent disco, but in robes or what's the- It was like an 80s night, wasn't it, Parker? We went after Brockhampton and the Super Jam. It's such a small room. It was awful. The music is so loud and so bad. You literally have elbows worth of space to move around and everyone is just... Well, welcome to the action Snake and Jake's then. I don't think... Barry, correct me if I'm wrong. If I did it, I must have been somewhere else, but have I ever been in that barn? Not that I know of. I don't think I've ever been in that barn. I have. Yeah. It's not super worth it. It is a good place to go at like 3 or 4 a.m. if you want to see some really weird shit. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. You know what? I can get that at camp. I can get that at camp and wear my sweatpants. Yeah. Send her to the general at 3 or 4 a.m. The weirdos, and I mean that in a loving way, seem to congregate in there and also in front of... She's going to get me because I'm going to say it wrong, Calliope. No, you said it right. You said it right. You said it wrong. You said it exactly right. Calliope. I'm not doing this. You said it exactly right. It's Calliope and they moved the goddamn hill. Okay? It's Calliope. That's not happening. I proved it to you. All right. It's Calliope. It's a mile and a half from Calliope Street. It is Calliope. I remember back in the day... Well, not back in the day, but three or four years ago, you would go over there 3, 4 a.m. or whatever, and that is where the Burning Man type of weirdos would come out. That's on her. Yeah. That's where we were last year. It was great. We had a good time. It's where I saw... Three in the morning. Yeah. It was great. Have any of you ever been shirtless? Well, you go shirtless, any of you? Barry? What is your obsession with it? He was trying to get me to do it months ago for some reason. It's kind of freeing, to be honest, at Bonnaroo. Jake did it at Rich Brian. I've got a couple days shirtless. It's pretty funny. The show that you wanted to see more than anything this year. You already know my answer. I am. Yeah, it would be E.O.B. Ed O'Brien. It would be 1975 or Vampire Weekend for me. Okay. Very interesting that the... Yeah, it was Charlotte. Run the jewels. Nice. Very interesting. The kid said 1975. You guys are so emo. It's very strange. As a guy that plays 1975 on a regular basis, I've met them several times. I've got their signed vinyl. I can't pick one of them out of a lineup. You can send them away if you want to. Yeah, we'll take them off the list. So Barry, the interesting thing about this is that radio in general is having a very hard time differentiating and finding a place for bands that are doing really, really well online and not so well on radio. They're not really selling units but are streaming like crazy. In 1975 is one of these bands. Their numbers are through the roof but you can't find a hit. None of them will find anywhere on the air. I don't know how to curb that. I can't figure out who these people are that are listening in 1975 and what they like about this. The thing I like about that band is I hear different songs from them that almost sound like they're from entirely different genres. Yes, completely all over the place. That's why I fear them because it almost comes across as Judah and the Lion in that you want to be everything to everybody but you're nothing to anyone. I get that. I think their execution personally is a little bit better than that. Me and Parker have had this conversation before that I think they're one of the fewer mainstream pop bands. Pop bands that are actually taking chances with their records, if you were to listen to all of them in a row, they do have a progression of sound somewhat and each album does sound pretty unique. The production is fantastic. Even on their newest album, they have a lot of electronic and dance influences. What do you guys actually do for a living? I don't even know this, Daniel. Oh yeah, Daniel works for like the moon. The moon? The moon is for him. I don't do the fancy stuff. I work in communications. I don't give a shit if you mop the floors. I work at NASA. That's a good one. I love that. I don't do the fancy stuff. I work at NASA. I get to hang out with people that do the fancy stuff so that's pretty cool. All right, Charlotte, I don't know what you do. What do you do? Nothing now. You got a man that works at NASA? No, I mean I did something but 2020. I worked at a museum. I worked in tourism. She worked at the NASA music? Yeah, I worked at the NASA museum but there's no more museums. Tourism 2020. I know actually several people that work in museums and literally all of them got crushed. It's amazing that my industry is starting to feel it too. Radio people are getting cut and cut and cut. It's amazing when you look around the room. Barry Courter silhouette. It's nuts of all the technologies. Papers. How's the paper doing, Barry? Very well. Yeah? Very well. You know why? It's comfort food. Information. People are going to comfort food. I bet you if I go around the room right now, you guys are not listening to new music. No, that's what we were talking about. Yeah, you were talking about radio. You're listening to entertainment, Daniel. Don't go too crazy. Slow Rush has been on repeat since Valentine's Day. I guess it isn't new music but one of my other favorite albums this year was from The Strokes and Glass Animals. I would make those two round out my top three so far. Oh, and the new My Morning Jacket too. You guys, RooHamms, they shook their head no. You're not listening to anything new, huh? No, I wouldn't. Well, my consumption of new stuff is based around events like this. That's how I discover new stuff. Now that all of these, Bonnaroo and the local stuff is off the board, I guess that way of consuming things is out of my life. Yeah, same with me. It's a mix. I still listen to new music but it's definitely not as much as it was. You just made me think about something that's really interesting. Barry, I don't think we've ever touched on this but especially even offline in conversation, but because of COVID and the lack of needing to be engaged in this, even as somebody who does this for a living, I don't even know when something new comes out. I'm trying to think if there's an artist that came out. If Frank Ocean released a song right now, I don't think I would even notice. Well, I mean, for me, if it didn't come to the paper or if I didn't hear about it from you, I wouldn't know. I get exactly what you're saying. I got this new artist to tell you about her names. They're not releasing a lot. There's very few being released. So no, I was thinking about that the other day myself. There's avenues of how I used to get information is just not there. It's like I'm not even paying attention. Well, the last records I got from Rust and Wax, our record shop that we buy from, Radiohead and King Crimson. Mine was Solomon Burke from his first solo album in 1957. Catching up on it. I'm catching up on the old stuff. I'll tell you guys, one advantage that 2020 has brought is I've been able to discover more local artists. Usually in the first half of 2020, I would be learning the new artists that are on the Roo poster that I didn't know that I wanted to check out in June. But this year, since there's not really any live shows, I've been hearing a lot more from like Huntsville artists or from Nashville artists that I didn't know. Some of the artists that have been coming to play like our little secret boundaries in near Winchester, DJ Polly, this guy out of Nashville, I think, best EDM artist I've heard in a long time. And he was there playing on the back of a trailer, you know, like just in front of our bus. We had a band, Taco, you played them on the podcast a little bit. Seeds out of Huntsville. Seeds? Yeah, seeds? With a question mark? Yeah, yeah. It's the weirdest thing. Like they're heavily influenced by, you know, party bands like Cherub or whatever. And it's not like anything else that you're hearing out there. And it's kind of weird. They're almost like a jam band where you have to like see a live show to like know like, oh, this is what these guys are about. Yeah. I really think that's how we're going to emerge out of this is local, small, small shows, small venues, local bands that aren't having to travel very far, promoters that are willing to do it. And I think what we'll see is some of the even bigger name ones that we would normally have to see in a big building, you know, a big venue, pay a lot for, are going to be so glad to be out that we're going to see them in smaller places. That's what I'm hearing, how that how it's going to work. We're not going to just all of a sudden land back in the 40, 50, 60,000, you know, people events. It's going to be this small. Well, I would say the reason why you're not going to see that is because they're not going to be doing them. Well, that's right. But they're going to have to start somehow. And so it's going to be these small things like you're talking about. Well, I think Seeds was thrilled to be able to play for 10, 20 people, 50 people, you know. Well, that was the first time they had played live since January and they were just dying to get out there. Exactly. We paid them in margaritas and pizza and they were more than happy to be there. Pay it in margaritas and pizza. I think that was a Jimmy Buffett song, wasn't it? So when what have you guys actually done, have you done any sort of shows? Have you done a drive in show? Have you done other than the live cast thing? We might have done that. We went to a little miniature drive in EDM festival about a month or so ago and I was really impressed. It was nothing about that. That math does not add up. Similar to what you had described that that thing that you went to near New Orleans, they obviously took a lot of precaution, a lot of thought into it, and we stayed around the bus, climbed on top of it and was able to see the stage from there and everyone was super respectful. You drove the bus then? Yeah, heck yeah. I mean, it was in Huntsville. It was only like a 20 minute drive from my house. How they gave you a spot for the bus. Yeah. Well, I mean, having some kind of visual spectacle helps with that sort of thing, I guess. Nothing at the bottom in Iowa and Minnesota? Nothing? We haven't really had any drive in shows, at least that I have been aware of. I've watched, I mean, back in May, like I watched a virtual EDM festival out in California and I mean, I was pretty impressed to how it happened and I've watched a couple of random one off online shows, but overall, I don't think the experience is quite the same unless it's kind of in person like they're talking about with the drive in. Yeah. So haven't really seeked them out. The only thing that matters when it happens is that it's happening, right? And you're just there doing it. And it's something I've given Barry a lot of shit for in the last few years is that he'll say, when we're talking about Bonner, he'll say something like, well, you're there. What else are you going to do? What are you going to do? The drive in shows as much as corny as they are and how silly they are, but by God, you're doing something. And I was shocked at how well the one we went to was. It was almost like the real thing. I mean, everyone was staying in their space and doing their thing in their little corner, but it was like going to a real live show. Yeah. If I had them up by me, I'd totally love to go. I mean, it sounds fun. When you guys, you guys drive, do you separately drive to Bonner? Ruhim? Guys? Well, when we went to pick him up on the way. This year would have been a little bit different, but go ahead, Parker. Well, yeah. Well, he was the last two years he's been in Iowa. So we just meet up. Yeah. And we, but you have to drive through Des Moines that way anyway. So we take, we took what three separate cars. And then basically everybody meets at Parker's house because we're all within Iowa, meet there, take three separate cars down. This year would have been a little bit different because we were planning on doing group. So we had people from a couple of different states, so we would have to have like pickup points along the way. That is an ultimate diva Brad move is take three cars. You drive one, you ditch it, you get another one and then you drive it, you ditch it and then you get the rest of the way and want another one. Sounds like you're pulling heist. Yeah. Three, three different cars. What's the drive like? How far is that drive? It's about 12 hours. Yeah. Hey guys, do you see how we're losing Barry? You see how dad's starting to fall asleep? I'm hearing a little bit of echo again. I'm shaking my head about the 12 hours and I'm hearing this echo. That's why it's interesting when you guys are like, you know, it's just a couple hours because 12 hour drive is part of the experience for us. For us, that's like the fun part is like half the experiences us having like, like we cherish Waffle House, which is probably funny to you guys. Like we think that's really sweet. Not as sweet as Sam's. Sweet cherished Waffle House. Nothing wrong with the Waffle House. Like the creme de la creme of restaurants for us. But we always say you guys are the talent. It's superb. Yeah. But you know, like we have, there's a city called Metropolis and it's at what? The point of Illinois? That's where Superman is. Yeah. It's got a giant Superman. And so we always go there and there's like little things along the way that are just like, it's part of it. And so at least for us, I think if we cut that drive down to 45 minutes to hour, I mean, obviously it'd be nice, but it would cut out a little bit of the fun. That's fair. What is fun about 12 hours in the car? You're just you're with your homies and you're chilling. I don't know. I mean, I mean, I don't know what to say. I mean, I am 40 years old. Do you think with my homies sounds fun to me? Brad, you want to take a 12 hour car ride with me? I mean, we're homies. I'll give you guys for saying, no, I've done that kind of thing, not to bother, but like go with some buddies to Chicago. And I thought I would have hated it, but I loved it. It's really just sitting around camp for 12 hours. Like things just happen when you're tired and bored. Things just happen. I get it. You know, I know about things that just happen. Barry and I took one road trip together. And it was to Louisville. And that's been about it. It was nice. It was good. And then I was ready five and a half hours. I love Louisville. It's not. I just don't. Nothing about that seems I've got a I've got a hard cap on being in the car, man. And it's a Knoxville together. Yeah, we are. It was like two hours. Now it's weird. I get exactly what you're saying. It's just so different for us because it's a stress thing. We're all I mean, the other guy that rides or goes with us is even more stressed about getting there than I am. I'm out. Brian Stone. He's all panicked that things are not going to happen. You know, credentials aren't going to be there. What a car is going to break down, whatever. So for us, it's just and he's we're 45 minutes away. That's my point. It's 45 minutes of this. So yeah, 12 hours. It's a lot of what you know. I mean, like that's just kind of what we're used to. I mean, it's the same with like GA. Like, I mean, we even partner had this conversation. Like I don't think we'd really ever want to do VIP just because for us, like, again, part of the fun is GA. So it's all like one package together that makes it for us. It's not like one specific thing. How many is in your group there, Daniel, Sharla? How many people you got up there? Oh, man, it varies every year. I think the biggest group we had was the last Bonnaroo. It was us two, Brooklyn, Chelsea, our buddies, Aaron and Brandon, and then a shoe who came all the way from South Korea just to come to Bonnaroo. Holy shit, that's a drive. Yeah. So no complaint about the 12 hour drive. I get it. We were literally from the other side of the world. Yeah, I'm not traveling to anything that far. I'm never going to do that. I get the life like she had been to the US and went to some smaller things like that, but she hadn't experienced anything on the scale of Bonnaroo. And when we met her over in Thailand at the backpacker place that we stayed at, she was a little timid, kind of quiet or whatever. So I thought like, oh, maybe this is going to be too big for her. She was partying harder than anyone I've ever seen at Bonnaroo. It was fun. Don't think you've seen Barry Courter. Really throw it out. I let loose. When he lets loose, he gets to 915, 930. I think that's part of it, though. You spend that 12 hours when you get there, you're ready to let it go. So yeah, I get it. I truly do. Do we know, South Korea is a tough one to beat, but do we know anybody in our direct circle, Taco, Barry, that come more than an hour? No. Absolutely not. That's a good question. We don't know one person that comes for. No, they're all going to be the one. I'm the one that's going to be the one. You're going to have the one. Yeah, that's unbelievable. So when you guys, Parker, Jake, when you guys decided Daniel and Charlotte are different because they're in Alabama, but I don't mean Barry talk about this a lot. We asked this question a lot, but it's so fascinating. Why did you choose Bonnaroo when you first had the choice and you're in the middle of the country, you're in flyover America? Why did you choose this direction and not anywhere else? Well, what's ironic about that is that I did not choose it from a list or whatever. It was actually another separate group of friends that decided they were going and then I hopped on. And then I was the only one in that group that became enthralled with it. What do you mean became enthralled? Why you were there? When I was there and also I was the only one that was looking things up on Reddit, going to InfoRoo. Everyone else was like, I don't know, we're just going to go see Deadmau5. It was 2015. We're just going there for a concert, but I was interested in the bigger picture stuff. The menial shit that we talked about. What's interesting about Bonnaroo, I think, is the word of mouth marketing. Because I think if you hear about Coachella, for example, I think a lot of people tell you that there's some cool music there, but it's a lot of not so interested people and it's just not a great atmosphere. Whereas Bonnaroo, like what got me to go to Bonnaroo with Parker is him telling me just how cool it was and how it's really unlike anything you've probably ever been to. How many people did you tell that to and it break their heart? Because I feel like me and Barry have told other people about how great Bonnaroo is and they'll show up and like, this shit sucks. Yeah, it depends. Some people, that's not their thing. I think for other people, at least for me, it's something where they didn't know that was their thing. I'm not a camper by any means or a hiker or anything like that, but once I was there, I was like, this feels amazing. I want to keep going back and back. It's all about hanging out with the homies. What were you going to say, Daniel? We were just kind of talking amongst ourselves. I won't name names, but we've had a different crowd come with us every year and out of the lot of people that come hang around with us in the bus, we've only had one guy that was just like, he didn't hate it, but he was just like, I had fun. I don't think I'm coming back. It wasn't entirely for me. I was just going to ask Brad, who have we talked to in the going that then didn't like it? I can't remember. You don't know these people. By the way, it's the people that, and the reason I say that, it's the people that I think will do really well there that usually don't. It's the people that I never would anticipate in a million years liking it, absolutely fall in love with it. My only thing- You didn't think I would like it. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. My thing on all this is you can't explain it to people. People have in their mind, they think it's just a big mud pit, a hot, sweaty mud pit, and they don't understand that we glamp, basically, or you make a camp as comfortable as you want. There's so many cool things. Every year we sit around and we're like, yeah, you just can't explain to people. We're having Bloody Marys on Sunday morning. Sunday morning? Well, every- I'm just saying, that seems to be the most relaxed one. I will say the one thing that gets everybody, when we start talking about this, the one thing that gets them every time is when I say the words Bloody Mary Bar. We have our entire field in our own Bloody Mary Bar. It's quite comfortable. We have a good time. I think about, and Daniel, to your point much earlier, it's a lot like the way, and I really, really loved what Redaroo did with that camp site and the way that they just owned that space and said, we're going to make this as baller and comfortable as possible. That's exactly the point to me. Anybody that walks in, I've never really understood the people that walk in, and the hams might be this way, but they walk in and just plop down a tent and then they're satisfied. That's cool. I can see how they do that, but I don't know how they exist like that. I want camp to be the goofiest, funnest, most comfortable- That comes with experience. Thing that you can possibly create, maybe, but I can't imagine going there and just plopping a tent down and saying, I'll be good here. That's what I did the first year, two years, it was awful. That's what Parker and I did the first year too. We had a camp, we had a cooler, two chairs, and a canopy, and we loved it, but then next year we were like, okay, we- You had a canopy. I had an umbrella that we followed- You got us beat there. Hey guys, I just got some breaking news. Barry just tweeted a minute ago that the virtual reality is definitely next weekend. They just put out a cool little promo video. Nice. Now, how do you know it's a cool promo video when you're not even watching it? I'm literally watching it on my iPad right next to my computer screen. I see it. Okay. All right. So next weekend, yeah. It's like a black screen to me. Parker and Christie's in the video. And the thing that would be interesting, and this is what I think that Coachella, it wasn't Coachella, it was Lollapalooz. Lollapalooz did a nice job of curating a playlist and all this stuff, but it would be really more interesting if they got some of the artists to actually play. This is all cute and all that they can curate a live thing, but isn't there somebody already doing that? Isn't there that guy that puts together the live feed? There's a guy that puts together live performances every weekend, and you can add Homeroom for a few hours a weekend. That's all. Yeah, it's Bonnaroo365 has been doing a crazy job at that. Honestly, he has spoiled this whole thing because I feel like people who have been watching that are going to have high expectations for whatever Bonnaroo is actually doing. So it's Homeroom on Twitch if we're dropping the... That's exactly what I'm talking about. If somebody can do that from their house, I don't know if it really moves the needle if it's a brand doing it. That's just me. So Bonnaroo, a couple months ago, they had someone play... I want some live performances, man. I want some live stuff. Put something and some new content out. It was a couple months ago. They had someone play a live set. They premiered a new song. I can't remember who it was. It was back in... Was it Big Wild? Rich Brian. No. Oh, God, I wish. It was Big Wild. I wish. All right. There you go. Time to wrap up. Everybody got a little bit of hams left. We can do a big cheers and hams. By the way, thanks. Thank you, guys, for sending. Thanks for the hams. Yeah. Yeah. It's no problem. I will say, it's something that you can drink and not think about whatsoever. I think that's the most positive review that we're going to get from Bonnaroo. I appreciate that. I drank it. I feel great. I think the fact that Brad actually sipped it is the big compliment. It was even cracked. Nothing sits in the sun better. Yeah. It's a good dinner beer. I had dinner before I started recording. I often thought through this. If I was baking a pasta or a nice etouffee, you know what I'd love right now? A hams. Yeah. If all the ice melted in my trunk. It would taste like hams. I couldn't keep the beer cold. No, it's good. I really appreciate you guys doing it. It's cool. Yeah. Thanks so much. I really do. Thanks so much. I really can't get over the amount of love that somebody has for a brand. It really is. It's awkward for sure, but it's interesting because you've really got to be tied to a brand. And taco is taco, but it's PBR, right? It's a known entity. To be this obsessed with a product that maybe a percentage of the population has, you might as well just talk about meth. You know, you're like, that's the side. I think you're under-rested. Are you going to mail some meth? Is that next? This show would be really weird if that was the case. No spoilers. No spoilers. All right. Very cool. All right. Very cool. Thank you guys. Love you. Cheers. Lutako, Parker, Jake, Daniel, Charlam. Thank you so much for joining us, guys. Thank you, everyone. All right. Yeah. Until next time, will we all crowd into taco's bus? Yeah. I need to clean up a little bit. It'll be next weekend. Yeah. All right. See you guys. Hey, hey, hey, hey. How y'all feeling? Journey through the stories that define the artist playing Bonnaroo. Who are they? What are they? What will you see? The what? Which bands? This year? That matter? This year, we're going to play with Brad Steiner and Barry Courter.