Hamms Crossover with RooHamm and Roo Bus!

A...Barry Courter, I would call this a quartery. Is this a quartery?

A click, for sure. A quartery, maybe, perhaps. You're the writer. You're the smart guy. Dad?

It's an event. We're gonna go with that. I don't know.

I come up with the word quartery and you come up with event.

I'm not even sure what that means.

It is a group of like-minded folk.

Oh, nice.

You mean like all y'all here?

All y'uns here.

That's Barry Courter and Brad Steiner. There's Lord Taco.

Down there at the bottom, we've got underage kids that have shown up.

What has happened, Barry?

We've got children that have snuck into Lord Taco's bus.

Yeah. No, you did...that's good. Quartery. That's a good...I'm gonna use that in a sentence in a story this week.

You just Google searched it, didn't you?

No. I'm proud that you know what that means. You Google searched it.

Parker from the RooHamm podcast and then Jake, his son, is here.

What I love about the fact that, Parker, of course, you're living where, by the way? Where do you live?

In Iowa, Des Moines.

Iowa. Your bus looks great.

Yeah, I actually remodeled it to look like Russ's.

Nice. Good work.

Yeah, it's strange. You and Barry and me and Jake are all in the same place.

Jake just looked like he teleported.

Yeah, it's weird. You look like you were just in a Goodwill.

Uh, what? Where are you living?

That can't be Mom's house.

Oh, no, it can't. I'm up in Minneapolis.

Okay, well, thanks for cleaning the house.

I think you might be severely underestimating my age. I loved it.

Give your guess.

Enjoy while I last.

Yeah, go with it.

The sweet sultry sounds of the...

Now, if there's anybody that in my world has more of a...

Let's put it this way. You guys love buses.

We've got three people on this call that just absolutely love buses.

Daniel and Sharla from the Roo Bus.

Let's see. Can we take a tour of the bus? I've actually never been in.

Can I swing the camera around?

Absolutely, you can.

Let's see if we can figure this out real quick. I'm not tethered.

All right. So Sharla and I are at one of the front tables in here.

And here is the dash. You can see the wheel behind me.

And let's see if we can get up here.

Oh, here we go.

We brought dinner in here tonight.

The bus... I'm serious. We were eating a little bit before we started recording.

Well, you've been in Alabama. Did you catch it in the yard?

All right. I'm coming back here.

Look at that.

Yeah. So I'm coming back here.

And this is where there's a king-size bed and two twin beds that double as a couch.

We'll just have to get the tour.

Okay, so here's the deal. Lord Taco stays in his bus maybe three times a week.

How often do you guys stay on your bus?

Not that often.

During the off season, I'm not here maybe once a week.

We take the bus obviously to Bonnaroo every June, but we go camping a couple of times.

You know, in a normal year that isn't consumed with the Rona.

We do a couple of fun things here in Huntsville where we take it to like driving concerts and different...

wherever I can take it and make a scene.

I got you. I got you.

At least once a month, it feels like.

Now you guys crammed into Lord Taco's bus and moved him out.

What happened to Russ?

I'm going to guess we got another little potty break.

He's good for doing these things.

He's just talking his PBR.

See, what's crazy is you're like, hey, I wonder where Russ has gone.

And then you look down and he's got seven empty PBRs.

And I probably figure out where they are.

And he's back.

I was like...

So from you guys, it always feels like I hear at least like four cans crack.

Yeah, they're all tacos.

Every single one of those Lord Tacos.

Barry, what's the what's on the docket for tonight?

What do we what do we got?

Well, I think it's interesting to point out all the people on this.

I have had podcasts.

That's part of why we're connected.

The bus is obviously the Roo bus and Russ with the bus.

But my big we're going to.

What do you have in your hand?

Parker and Jake were pretty great to send us all cans of hams, right?

A canned ham like on the canned ham.

You got a canned ham.

Got a canned ham.

They showed up on my porch.

Showed up on my porch.

And so I think we're going to sample this.

I got a I got a hams, too.

And here's what I just guessed.

It's not going to taste any differently from when it was in the fridge to when it was on my porch.

I don't think there's going to be any difference between the two.

I got to say this is going to be the first time that Charlotte and I have ever had this.

Parkerson is this. Thank you so much, by the way.

I was as soon as I saw your name and that it was from Iowa, I was like, oh, my God, I know what this is.

I started laughing. Right.

So I packaged it and then I went to the post office and I handed it off to the woman by the counter.

And I said, with your life, get these to Alabama.

Hopefully you committed a felony for Alabama because you're not supposed to be able to ship.

He was also holding a knife.

We had some conversations about that.

It's the same lie. It's the same law here, actually.

So, yeah, yeah, Parker literally texted me and it's like part out.

Yeah, take that part out.

Wait, there's alcohol in this.

Yeah. The weird thing, Barry, is that, you know, usually when I get packages from Iowa, it's just weed.

This time it's it's a premium beer, which is unfortunate.

It's not an award winner.

Lord Taco, please explain the difference between a PBR and a hams.

Well, the PBR won a blue ribbon.

Showing that right there.

What what word did hams win again?

The RooHamm stamp of approval.

Yeah, good.

Only slightly biased.

Sharla, are you going to sample? I know you're this is you're part of a 30 day cleanse, right?

Are you going to pick the 30 days?

Well done.

What a way to celebrate.

Yeah, yeah.

Come off the wagon.

Yeah, you might go right back on.

Is it time? Are we opening?

Yeah, I can.

I got to I got to slow this thing down here for a second.

First off, Barry Courter.

You know, you've got you've got you've got a podcast with us. You've got the RooHamm podcast.

You've got the Roo Bus podcast.

I don't like this because I feel like all of our listeners are in one place.

I'm just going to actually listen to the show.

It's very possible.

It's pretty incestuous.

All right.

Let's go.

Because I'm usually listening to you guys when I'm running in our neighborhood.

So I'm like, oh, wait, yeah, I can talk back to them now.

Yeah, that's answer.

That's answer away. But here we go.

So by the way, so show of hands, how many times have you actually had a hand?

Anybody the first time hams drinker from the room?

All of us except for. Yeah, I've had hams.

All right.

I mean, OK, let's just just try it.

Let's just give it a go.

But does this need to be in like a special glassware?

Does it need a very special glass?

Yeah, the most expensive glass you got.

Oh, Charlotte, show them your special glass.

The 1982 World's Fair glass.

Nice.

Knoxville.

It only increased the flavor.

The beer is going to taste like 1982.

It's a good year.

And I use my Bonnarooo.

I almost wonder, Parker and Jake, if you guys should, you know, give us the whole

what should we anticipate?

What are we? What are we?

Notes? Are we looking?

Brad's a big.

Brad's a big beer snob.

So we need to go ahead.

Yeah, I'd give the deep smell first.

When it hits your tongue, just kind of let it sit in there for a little bit.

Swish back and forth.

And yeah, think about the thing about the north and this is like everything that goes with it.

Like the first time I was with a girl, she said the same.

You're you're going to remember this just as well.

I promise.

The market, Jake, can you guys explain this a little bit?

Like, what is the significance?

Is it something that's just regional up there in the Midwest or what?

Yeah, Hams is I'm I'm pretty sure it started in Wisconsin and then it got bought out by a Minnesota based brewery

because at least where I live downtown, you can go to a there's a ham statue and like a dedicated square.

I'm not kidding.

Two hams where their mascot is Sasha.

Sasha. Yeah.

And I go around the go around the room here and see everybody's first impression of the hams.

Mine is tastes a little like covid.

It's over that last of me.

Blast feeling is what it tastes like.

Barry Courter hams experience tasted pretty much like what I expected.

Tasted like PBR and some of the other what would you call them?

American beers that I grew up with.

Yeah, I know what I've noticed with Lord Taco is doing.

The man who loves PBR more than anything in the world.

He's going from hams to PBR back and forth, washing his palate off.

I think Russ is already done with it.

Yeah.

What do you think?

Wow.

Before we get to taco, he's going to be the hardest one to sway.

Sharla, Daniel, what do you think?

You first, babe.

It tastes like a natty, but better.

That's high praise.

Honestly.

Yeah, that's you know, you could have stopped the sentence at natty like you didn't really have to go any further.

It's better than a natty.

Yeah, better.

I feel like I should be sitting in a pool hall somewhere in Minnesota drinking this.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's good.

That's good vibes.

It's like a premium.

It's like a premium natty.

Yeah.

How do you guys drink this?

I'm already drunk.

Well, last year we actually drank more of the ham special light, which is a rare.

Yeah, you best of life.

You can blow through those a little faster.

Yeah.

Ham special lights.

Is that like PBR easy?

They make it light.

It's like PBR easy, but it's special.

Here we go.

The drum roll for Lord Taco's official review of the hams first time ham drinker, Russ Jackson.

Can't wait to.

Oh, special glass.

It's good.

That's all right.

That's a good review from him.

Honestly, yeah, I expect him to kind of.

Yeah, this is a little more of a metallic taste than PBR.

But you're drinking out of a metal glass, metal cup.

That's why.

That's true.

You're drinking it out of the Bonnarooo glass.

That's where it's meant to be.

You know, I took some sips out of the can, too.

All right.

Here's the deal.

As a as an avid beer drinker, I will give you guys a lot of credit.

It's first off.

You guys are insane for loving a, you know, a lager so much.

It's nuts how you guys just you and taco.

You guys are all the same type.

You know, it's all this.

Who loves brands this much?

You're as bad as golfers.

You know, you know, golfers have to have the logos.

Everywhere.

That's what you guys are.

Nobody's paying you.

Take the brands off.

Hey, we technically have gotten merch, though.

We got an entire merch package sent by hams last year.

So, I mean, that's kidding.

That's about as good sponsorship as you're going to get.

That is pretty good.

All right.

I'm going to start talking about banks.

That's the case.

I'm just talking about banks over and over and over.

So look, as an avid beer drinker, I'm going to say that it is very much like you guys do.

It's crushable.

It's very nice.

I feel as though it's much colder.

It's just a tad too sweet for me.

You know, it's just a tad too sweet.

All right.

And I got to be real.

I've never.

And here's what I appreciate about this is I've never put that much thought into what I'm drinking right now.

That's the problem.

I think that we identified the problem.

I think that's also the appeal is that I don't know where I'm going.

You don't have to like it.

You're right.

Well, yeah.

Quantity.

Quantity.

See, we should point out.

So Brad, like I said, is a beer snob.

He drinks the craft beers and, you know, Russ will drink nothing if he can't get his PBR.

Right.

I mean, if they don't have it at the bar that I've been there with him, he won't drink it.

He'll drink water.

I got him to try some crap stuff when he met us at the Speakeasy Roo a couple of months ago.

I'm surprised.

That is true.

And I think Kyle brought a craft beer that he wanted me to try.

The only way I buy that.

The only way I buy that.

No, no.

I know taco very well.

The only way I know I buy that is if he was absolutely shithammered.

Oh, yes.

He was sober.

No, I got him to try one from Huntsville.

He liked it.

Did he do it just like he did?

Was I sober?

He had the PBR in the one hand so he could wash it.

That was monogamous.

Wow.

He stuck to it.

I'm stunned.

I'm stunned.

So just go around here for a second.

We know the story behind Roo Bus, but why the love of the hams?

And then how in the world do you fit that into your love of Bonnaroo, kids?

How does that work?

Well, what's kind of ironic is that hams was brought into my life described as the worst

beer ever from a friend of mine from school.

And then Jake just happened to know about hams as well when we became friends.

Was it the only beer that we had in our trunk?

Yeah, we didn't know how much.

Because it was left there when you bought the car?

All great love stories, starting with she just stuck to the trunk.

It wasn't the only alcohol.

We didn't know how much to bring, or at least I didn't because it was my first year at Bonnaroo.

And so I was going for kind of a quantity over quality thing.

Now I know it's more of a quality thing.

But at the time, quantity over quality.

And so I brought a bunch of hams.

And I think Parker brought like lining coogles or something.

And so we get to Bonnaroo and he's like, what the hell is hams?

And I was like, I don't know.

I knew what hams was.

Well, you were like, it was weird why I would bring it.

And then the next thing I go is like 10 bucks.

And you're like, oh, yeah, makes sense.

But would you ever like dabble with something along the same lines as something like a beer 30?

Have you ever heard of the beer 30?

No, no.

Blats.

Yeah, or an Iron City or are you describing shitty beers right now?

In your world, they are a plus.

In your world, they are the top shelf.

And then you have a beer called Big Flats, I think.

Kroger's used to have a cost cutter beer.

You could get a case for eight dollars.

I think it's just everybody's sitcom dad beer just says beer on the side.

I don't know if it's actually even a Duffer beer.

Exactly.

And so you guys had a friendship and you combined your love of hams into a Bonnaroo trip.

And that's kind of how it like what what really cemented it into the Bonnaroo lore for us was that we accidentally left it out in the sun.

And it was the only beer we had at one point and it was hot as shit.

And so that was the only and, you know, we're tired into a baby survived our first son.

So that's how it kind of our first son.

So they're actually so we joke that they're meant to be baked in the sun in someone's card.

I wrote.

Yes, but it's in the oven.

It's going to taste. Yeah, yeah.

It hadn't been out long enough.

Leave it alone.

It needs to age in the sun.

It's like a fine wine.

Yeah, sure.

And so we brought any of these to the Red River Exchange.

I think they would have allowed to us there.

Well, what we learned is that they only want IPA is there.

We bought brought one kind and nobody wanted it.

So we ended up having just give it all away basically at the end because no one wanted to take our can I talk about that exchange for a second?

Although I love the idea, it is it is not like any beer exchange.

I could ever wrap my head around because you're just it's just a free for all.

You know, you find somebody that has something good.

They're not giving it up.

And there's always a guy that's walking around, you know, with, you know, giant sacks of beer that he pulled out of the thing.

How would you manage getting something good from that from that exchange without, you know, I'm not creating stuff, but I'm getting, you know, a sweet water for 20 after the whole thing.

It's kind of crazy that people were able to like game that system.

Now it's been along for so long, like they know how to know what a real for themselves.

The year we went, Sours were the commodity.

Everybody wanted Sours.

So you had like a nice IPA.

You could trade for sour.

But unless you had get anything else and you're basically in the lager at that point.

Yeah, I mean, you got to get really got to when I walked in, I brought my stuff and I just dumped everything in thinking that it was, you know, something different.

I lost all of my beers that way.

I had nothing to trade.

So I had to walk around and like, can I just have something just to hand around?

The trick is you got to go right when it begins.

It becomes like the Hunger Games because everybody puts everything into these little kiddie pools.

Everybody jumps in trying to get what they're looking for.

And yeah, I'm the guy that's looking for the Sours.

So yeah, and Red Roo does this right?

Red Roo does this.

Yeah.

Who does this?

Yeah, it's Camp Red Roo.

Honestly, I was just talking with Mitchell the other day.

One of the guys that helps put that on.

I feel like it's probably the best fan run event in the campgrounds.

It has grown like tremendously.

They've had DJs and bands play it.

They should just put it on the official schedule.

Oh, yeah, we were blown away when we went.

It was huge.

It was much bigger than we thought.

I can't think of anything, Daniel, that I mean, you guys have done similar with your show that you've done Wednesday night and all.

I mean, those are probably two of the bigger fan based things that I can think of.

Yes, they had a hidden bar.

That was amazing.

They did.

They did the monkey bar.

Yep.

That is a win for me.

A bar that's totally hidden that had a bartender.

That is.

Dave.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's pretty good.

Dave made me a drink.

They make special drinks for Bonnaroo.

I think one of them last year was the Manchester Mule.

I don't know what was in it, but it did it for me.

I think I had one of those.

I don't remember much after having it.

Exactly.

Yeah.

That's how you take a taco to experiment with things.

I think I had that once.

So they, yeah, the Manchester Mule and then our friends repeat, repeat, didn't they create a beer or the brewery out of Atlanta?

Pond Tune Brewing.

Pond Tune.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, it's amazing what's grown out of this whole thing.

Red Roo had their own beer with Pond Tune too.

Actually, I think I've got the label back here somewhere.

We made a magnet out of it.

They partnered with them and it was a sour.

And I'm not kidding.

I'm not saying this because, you know, my buddies had a hand in it, but it is the best sour I've ever had.

Pond Tune out of Alpharetta, I think they're legit.

Yeah.

Yes, North Atlanta.

When, what about your event, Daniel, Sharla?

What do you guys usually try to put together?

And when are you usually, you know, make it like, for instance, if you're going to have it this year, were you going to, how long do you have to start planning this thing out?

Well, two years ago is when we had the Repeat Repeat show next to the bus.

And I'm on top of the bus a little bit because Jared scared the crap out of me and ran on top of this thing while he was doing a guitar solo.

I don't know how he didn't break his neck.

We were going to do a thing last year where we were going to have DJs and I guess I can let this slip now since it fell through and, you know, because of the traffic and everything.

Charo was constantly going to come by.

And then, of course, yeah, I know.

And then this year, of course, that didn't happen.

We were starting to work with...

Who did you say you were going to have, by the way?

I'm sorry, I stepped all over that.

What did you say you were going to have?

Last year, we were within spitting distance of having Cherub come out to the bus.

Okay.

But, I mean, it's boring.

Cherub is going to be playing at a bank of Florida bodies.

They couldn't get off of their shift of Taco Bell to make that happen?

Don't give them a hard time.

They're such good guys.

But this year, we did have some plans.

We were able to talk with our mutual friend, Jeff, up at AC.

And we were potentially going to have the bus out at the new group camp thing.

And we were basically going to have, like, fraternity row of, like, all the big Bonnaroo groups.

So, like, potentially, you know, Red Roo and everybody would have been in this new group area that was going to be moved a little bit.

So, it would have been them, Camp Trying to Go to Bed, who does the Roo Shoot stuff, Lindsay and Celia from Roo Fitness,

a bunch of other places would have been in the same place.

And we would have used the new group plaza barn or tent as kind of like the main hub for all these events.

But if you're somebody that has been in the same spot every year, you don't worry about that, being picked up and put into a completely new spot?

Well, it doesn't worry you.

You should talk with one of the group camp people about that.

Some of them were a little upset about it because they had been in the same spots for years.

You know, they had their shade picked out and everything, kind of like you guys do in the back, you know.

So, they were a little miffed about that. But this is me speaking for myself.

I wasn't that worried about it because it would have been that, you know, pretty much an equal walk anyway.

Right. We were going to jump in. We were going to jump into group this year.

It was exciting for us. But obviously, this has been a first time, so we have no clout in the group.

Yeah. So, where do you guys usually set up?

In GAA. Real GAA.

I know that. But like, you don't have like a group camping thing? What was your pod last year?

We were in two last year. We technically had an event that had zero attendees.

I'm going to guess it was the hams.

Yeah.

It was the hams.

Technically, we had a giveaway. Someone did win it. Someone did win it.

But the person, I tried to get in contact with them like three or four times during the weekend.

You say they won it, but really, did they?

No, they were because it was off edge.

You just didn't want to carry it back home.

The guy messaged me several times wanting to get his prize.

And we literally couldn't meet because he wanted to meet at the childress camp.

You know, I told him, you know, that's not going to happen.

But you called this winning.

Sorry, outside.

It was merch. It was a hat.

It was a hat and a pin. Plus beer.

So I mean, you can't get much better than that.

To his credit, it is hard to say we're in pod two. You walk past the building. You find the trash can. You take a left.

It took us 45 minutes to find the beer exchange.

And we were in a cart.

And we were in a cart.

Yeah, it was funny is is like the group area is not that far out in the town.

Like you guys went like a third of the way.

I did the the five pay run twice over the years.

And I can talk about that later.

But I did not believe how far back the camps go.

Like the walk to the group area is nothing compared to like the walk to where like that church building is over there across Bushy Branch.

It's insane.

So I do know how long that walk is because the the story that I don't know if we've ever told on the air, Barry, but my very first ever Bonnarooo was the worst weekend of my entire life period.

I mean, beaten as a child left by his father alone.

It didn't matter how bad my childhood would was or my future would be.

The worst weekend of my life was Bonnarooo.

And I got there and me and my buddy, his name is Dude.

We got dude.

And yeah, we got there on a frie.

I'll never forget.

We drove in and we saw Dave Matthews playing as we drove.

Look at you at the time.

You could see the stage as you drove in because you're driving driving on the main road.

So, oh, look, there's Dave Matthews.

We saw on the screen.

And so we just keep driving as we turn left.

I can't see it.

Can't see it.

Can't see it.

Can't see it.

It's really gone.

We are so far up again.

I mean, there are I don't know if it's there anymore, but up against the woods line, right?

All the way out in that back 40 area.

Right.

So first off, my first experience was walking in, which was a 45 minute walk at the time.

And I don't know if this is still the deal, but Shakedown Street was a real, real thing.

And it was not just what you think.

There was a dude selling a dryer door as a madhouse of you as you could ever.

Is he still there?

I need one.

What brand and color and color use coffee filters?

It was everything that you like.

These guys were just like begging for a dollar anyway.

So we get in.

It was miserably hot.

It was awful.

And then the torrential downpour hits and we're so we set up.

You're so you're carrying your hair product, your giant mirror.

Yeah.

And all at the same time.

Yeah.

Okay.

I just want to set the stage here.

So I mean, this is I was even more of a diva then.

So this is your two.

Is this year two or three?

Barry, I can't remember.

Dave Matthews and friends is dear to it.

I can't remember.

Anyway, so so we get back by the second day.

We're miserable, absolutely miserable.

We're so mad the first night, though, because we're parked so far out there, Daniel, and

we have no idea how to get back.

There's no signs at this point.

There's no lights.

You have to literally just mark cars and hope to God you can remember about the evening.

So if you took one wrong turn, you were gone for probably half an hour walking.

I have giant camp flags at that time.

No.

Oh, man.

No, they didn't.

This was the Wild Wild West, man.

This is wild.

You know, the camp balloons.

None of that happened.

So nowadays it's easy.

You can be like, oh, go turn next to the alien holding a dildo and you're right there.

No.

So I know what that is.

Yeah, it was actually.

I can still feel his beard.

So you take it.

You take a wrong turn.

And all of a sudden, I'm we're now walking 20 minutes down down this path.

And on the right, we walk up to a car on fire.

On the left, there is a giant bus like thing and someone peeing off the side.

And a woman whose butt ass naked runs straight to me, grabs me by the throat, slinkies down

my body, screaming LSD.

I kick her off of my leg as she's now holding my ankle.

And we just fucking bolt double back where we came from, thinking that we made the wrong

turn.

We finally get back to camp.

And that's when we lose it.

We are panicked.

We got to get the hell out of here.

So the rain just starts pouring down on us, pouring down and pouring down.

And we're trying.

We are 20 yards away from the exit.

And we just can't wait to get out of this hell hole that is this disaster of a of a

experience.

And our car gets stuck.

So we can't get the car out.

And we're stuck there for the rest of the night.

So we sleep in the car until the morning of there's this redneck kid driving up and down

the road who's pulling people out of their cars at twenty dollars a pop.

We literally get the car pulled out and we race.

And at the point, my buddy, dude, and I hate saying this, he was driving over campsites.

He was so mad and wanted to get out.

He was driving over tents.

I'm like, dude, you just broke.

I think you might have ran over a person.

I don't care.

It was the worst experience I've ever had.

And that was what got me so sour on the idea of G.A. and why I never, ever, ever went back.

It was that walk that you talked about that I never wanted to ever experience again.

I couldn't do it.

It took two years to get me back.

I think you should write a screenplay.

You might be able to sell the film rights to that.

Yeah, it's called Castaway.

You know, you're you feel like you're all alone on an island.

It is.

Have you ever watched the movie Falling Down with Michael Douglas?

Yes.

Yes.

I was like, oh, I'm going to go back to the house.

That's what it felt like.

But so it gets to you're the exception, though.

You did go back.

Everyone we've talked to on this show, we talk about it.

We've all had these.

I know that.

But I went back because what the guy told me, my my contact at the at the festival, he told me you went through the wrong entrance.

I had the wrong campsite.

I had the wrong credential.

I had everything wrong.

And I accidentally camped in the wrong spot.

I was supposed to be where we are now and never had these problems.

But because I did, I made it.

We made a wrong turn.

It soured me for three years.

And it took it took the wife to bring me back.

It did to the wife and death cab for cutie to bring me back.

I got to tell you, some people are still having these kinds of experiences.

I mean, I've seen people doing some crazy things that I won't necessarily mention on the podcast.

OK, so the rain and the mud, I had seen that kind of thing happen two times in recent years.

I think it was 2017.

It rained on Sunday really bad.

And out there in the general emission RV section, people were basically going mud bogging in front of us.

Like so many people were leaving in their RVs.

It had made like a giant rut that had to be like a dozen feet deep.

Now, I don't know how in the world that they got all that, except people were coming by on tractors and I think making some devious deals to get them out.

And it was last year, it rained on the day coming in.

And I heard horrors that were stuck out on the highway for like over 12 hours.

Yeah, that Wednesday night.

Yeah, you know, I mean, look, we we we talk a lot about, you know, our blessed Bonnarooo lifestyle.

But, you know, the the year that will go unnamed and unmentioned is the reason why I feel so much compassion for the people that have to do this and do it with a smile on their face and do it with so much happiness and can still bring themselves to, you know, stand for, you know, some shitty band like Rich Brian or something.

You know, it's something like that is unbelievable to me.

And and they're the people that I find much more much more tied to Bonnarooo than me.

These guys are the real.

That's what I want to ask.

And I want to I'll ask Sharla, I guess, is Daniel always this positive?

Oh, 24 7.

I think I know her with it.

I mean, the you know, I've said it before. I just think, you know, your Bonnarooo attitude is is so on the money that that's why I think people enjoy listening to the podcast or whatever.

But you just seem to get it. Were you that way before? You always that way?

And no, in fact, I'll be transparent.

Like around a year, year and a half ago, I was like kind of in a rut, you know, a depression or whatever. But then, you know, that was a while after we had had the bus and like something clicked in my head.

I was like, you know what? I haven't been practicing what I'm preaching.

And then I figured that, like, I had to like kind of have more of like the radiate positivity mindset like all day every day.

And I've been feeling great for the past year.

I mean, same with like Parker and Jake, and I think it's all of us. The fact that we didn't have a Bonnarooo this year and we're still doing podcasts, we're still talking about this thing.

Yeah, but Barry, you kick your puppy.

Well, yeah, when you know, when the cameras are off.

Well, I mean, it's kind of like, you know, I guess all of us in this chat, it's like, you know, you put so much, you know, some amount of effort into something and then it's just like it's just taken away.

It's like the bottom drops out from what you do.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, you know, when you how about this? When you got the news that it wasn't going to happen, were you as worried about covid as you should have been?

Or did the Bonnarooo thing sort of snap you into reality? Because I distinctly remember a moment that I got pulled into reality and figured out that this thing was a much bigger problem than than anybody.

At least I had to let on to believe. Right. I'll never forget a conversation me and Barry had early on.

I was like, oh, no, this is not it. It's the summer. It'll be fine. Hang out.

It'll happen. They've got all this time to make this work. I was such a denier. And then something specifically happened that shook me.

And I was like, oh, my God, this is not going to happen for another year and a half.

I wonder if there was like realists like Bonnarooo realism that hit and shook people to their core.

Yeah, I mean, I remember back in like March, Parker has a friend who is a journalist down in Tennessee and he reached out to us just talking about one sponsor was canceled, have our thoughts on it.

And I remember thinking that, oh, you know, it wasn't a big deal. Like, even if it got delayed a couple of months, I'd probably still go.

I think it kind of depends on where you live, at least up in Minnesota. Cases were still pretty limited and the spread really wasn't as bad.

And so, you know, that's the only perspective I have. And so I thought, you know, I can't it's going to get better probably by July or not.

Sorry, not by July, by the end of the year. And then, yeah, I mean, as you know, as I had to work from home and, you know, I'm sure as cases grew in Iowa with Parker.

Yeah, we both realize that like there's there's no way that this can happen. And even if it were to happen in September, I just don't know if the constant stress and anxiety of thinking about covid would really make it a fun event to be.

Yeah. And Barry asks us all the time, would you actually go if you if it was if it was held in September?

Like if it thinks that was the question you asked the other day, if there is a vaccine, would you go if there is a like if it was still in June, we're still dealing with what we have to deal with.

Would you take the vaccine and go or would you experience it in a bubble or do you experience it in a drive in?

Would you experience would you experience it any other way than you have in the past?

Yeah, I it's tough because I really value the whole camping experience.

And so for me, if it was anything less than that, you know, like you mentioned, a drive through, I would almost rather not have it and just wait till next year to have a full experience.

If you're asking me if I would go just in general, I mean, if if there were measures in place that made sense and, you know, I mean, a vaccine to make a huge difference, I think, in my mind.

But if there was no vaccine and it's kind of like it is now, I just I don't really see how you could possibly stop a spread with that many people.

I mean, people aren't going to social distance at a concert. It's just not going to happen.

And, you know, especially when they're shirtless. Yeah.

You're going to look with the bodies and that was a shower.

That's I can't get I can't get that was Jake at Rich Brian shirt on.

Also, it kind of brings things into like perspective, like how last year.

God, we're gross. We found two jewels on the ground and decided to utilize them.

And I can't imagine that in 2020. That wouldn't have happened.

I run them schools. My my skin is crawling.

It was so bad. It's a way of life at the other.

That's that's not that's a G.A. experience. Pretty much in a nutshell right there.

I picked up a koozie from a hotel bathroom and that's like my favorite.

He's going to bring that up again. That was the next girlfriend.

I got a ground score one year. She found like a really cool blue t shirt that I still wear to this day.

That was a floozy. Oh, gotcha. Floozy, not a koozie. Got it.

What did you pick up, Daniel?

Every so one of the best experiences that I would recommend to somebody is like stick around on Monday

because first of all, you can rest up a little bit before you head home.

But also those are the best ways to get ground scores.

Like we've gotten the little inflatable bag. I told y'all I got a chill bow bag.

And like there's still a shirt that I wear to this day that she found on the ground.

It was a cool shirt, like all kind of cool things. People leave.

It's just going to go to the dump. Otherwise, Charlie, you said I know I've heard in a couple of the podcasts

that you guys did that and we haven't talked about this in a while because the honor hasn't happened.

But with the whole changes out in G.A. and the things it almost is like you'd rather hang out

with friends and group camping than maybe see a show.

I mean, that's essentially what they did a couple of months ago.

Yeah. And I just wonder stuff like that, you know, how that even it's hard to imagine what what Bonnarooo is going to look like,

whether it's June or September or when it comes back just because of what we're just talking about.

The large crowds, the bathroom, the showers, the group camping.

I feel like even if it's in three years, it'll look radically different.

Oh, for sure. As unfortunate as that is, like I visited a camp that I worked at and they said that the measures

that are going to be in place next year are identical to this summer, like no matter what the status is of the world.

And I would have to imagine it's the same for hundred thousand people.

Wait, wait, say that again. Say what you said again. You what camp are you talking about? You went to a camp?

There was a camp that I worked at in northern Minnesota and they said that no matter like what the status is next year,

that the guidelines that they have to follow next summer are identical to this summer.

If they weren't open, but other other ones were.

Well, OK, so the reason I what strength strikes a chord with me when you say that is, you know,

you're assuming that something is going to happen between now and summer.

And, you know, I think that what I was saying earlier about the moment that everything hit and made me change my entire thought process of this is

when Coachella didn't just cancel, but they canceled for next year, too.

And that was like, oh, my God, if they kept it. And then right after that, I can't remember if it was a week or two weeks.

But then I kept saying to Barry, I kept saying the same antidote over and over.

And I said, this only becomes a thing when Disney closes, because if Disney is going to close,

then you know that billionaires can't survive. Right. And so I mean, two weeks later, Disney closed.

And I was like, oh, we're screwed. And, you know, Coachella not happening in the in the fall.

And then you get you basically from everybody that I talk to feels nothing's going to happen in the first two quarters of the year.

That means June is out. I mean, I think that you're looking at September again next year before, you know,

some of this stuff starts to come back. And even then, I don't know how comfortable I'm going to feel.

I'm a total diva. And I understand that. And you guys probably live a much different, you know, especially Bonnaroo life than I do.

But Barry, you know me, I can't I think I'm not high fiving people much less going to be.

I mean, I don't mean to put words in your mouth, Parker, but I don't think I don't think what you were referring to.

I don't think he cares. I don't think what you were talking about so much was the timing of it is so much as the measure,

the things that we're doing like I know one of the local groups here, I think they teach dance to kids or something.

But they were talking about getting doing away with water fountains, taking them out, you know, closing them off, things like that.

You know, measures like that, things that we're just used to now are gone.

You know, and those are the things I think what you're saying probably aren't coming back.

You know, so that's what I mean. That's what and and I think we can tease it.

I don't think we're giving anything away, but it's interesting to me.

Bonnaroo is going to do something online here in the next week or two.

But a graphic up today that was a social media avatar is that virtual reality?

I think it's what they're called. We're supposed to we're supposed to talk to talk to them here in the next couple of days and get that information.

But hey, you know what? It's not like I have any special. I'm going to guess it's an online concert.

Yeah, that's why I'm going to get your performances from bands that should have been there this year.

That's right. And that's why I'm not breaking news.

I'm not trying to know somebody festival owl.

And that's why I'm not trying to sell it is that I'm just saying that's what they're going to do.

But it's interesting that they haven't announced it yet.

They're still trying to figure it out. And I think Brad and I have talked about that multiple times.

Nobody knows. You know, that's what's so weird.

Have you guys watched any virtual shows? Have you in Gano? Barry's watched a ton.

What about you guys? You've been watching any of it?

I feel like some artists and their labels are starting to finally figure out a good way of doing these things.

I didn't get to watch it because we were busy with something else.

But I saw that St. Paul was doing an online show a week or so ago and they were doing some more interactive stuff.

And Old Crow is doing a show from the Ryman Saturday where they're doing a lot more like that.

He's been doing a good job with the Heartland Hootenanny.

I think it's so fun. Yeah, it's like it's like a modern version of he haul.

It's kind of ridiculous, but it's so much fun.

Damn, I think stole my idea.

And I actually I do said Heartland Hootenanny.

Yeah, I do think Grand Ole Opry Bonnarooo has announced that they're going to be doing something.

Yeah, Ricky Skaggs. Right. Good, because I haven't slept well lately.

Oh, don't don't don't hate on Ricky Skaggs. He's like the best mandolin player ever.

It was it was legitimately the biggest disappointment I think I might have ever had.

Aside from the hams, I saw you gave up. I'm about to go get my second one.

Yeah, the the Grand Ole Opry show was maybe one of the biggest disappointments I've ever had.

Everybody disappointed with that. We were there too.

And I was ready to love it. I was raving about it in the weeks leading up to Bonnarooo.

But by the time that riders in the sky are trying to get the crowd going by playing old Toy Story songs, I was just like, this isn't working.

Yeah, it's interesting you say that because I think me and Parker actually look pretty fondly on that.

I don't know about you, Parker, but at least a lot of our group wasn't into it.

But we were like, like kind of the novelty of it's kind of fun.

Maybe it's because we're not used to those type of shows, but at least we were kind of into it.

I thought the show was fine. I've said this before.

It was the the dead space between songs where they reset stuff.

Definitely. I think did it.

Now, when Catch and Old Crow came back out, it became the Hootenanny again. Like those guys know the Bonnarooo crowd and then you had to get it fired up.

And then it became like an old man mosh pit up in there. Everybody brings out their board to Buckdance on. It was like that.

It took an hour and a half to get there. It took an hour and a half to get there. I just can't. It was slow. It was very, very slow.

It was so slow. And, you know, if I wanted to spend an hour looking at guys dressed like that, I'd just do drugs.

I don't know what they were wearing. I don't know what that was. But it just didn't work for me.

Now, I'll say, the year before that, when Ed Helms was still around, when he was doing his kind of like Americana Bluegrass show, it was on fire.

That was the best show like that that I have seen in my seven or eight years of Bonnarooo.

The year before that, it was a little off-kilter because it was like the day of that Pulse nightclub shooting and everybody was kind of not there.

But the year following, he brought out everyone. And that was such a fun show.

Have any of you done the bathrobe party?

No.

I heard that's where you want to go, though.

I'm dying to. I just, you know, the problem is, is that a bunch of, I put it this way, the bathrobe doesn't have, you know, like a very secure locking mechanism.

And I'm not necessarily the fondest of, you know, seeing a lot of skin or showing a lot of skin.

I thought you'd like a package.

You don't want to pull a Chris Evans?

From your mouth to God's ear is part of it.

But me and Barry talked about this, about getting in the bathrobe.

But it's those kind of stuff that those kinds of events that I just I'm dying to know if if you know if they're any good.

I'm sure they're going to be fine.

That's in Jake and Snakes, right?

Yes, in Jake and Snakes.

Yeah, by the way, come to New Orleans, you go to the original one.

It's as big as this room.

All right, Brad, we'll come.

You're in the bus. Come on over.

Well, we went to.

Here's the thing about Snake and Jake's.

I can't imagine all the events are too different from each other.

The difference is that everyone's in robes at one of them.

And we went to one like we went to like it's silent disco.

But it was like an 80s night was a partner.

Well, we went after Brock Hampton and the super jam.

And it's such a small room.

It was awful.

And the music is so loud and so bad.

You literally have like elbows worth of space to like move around.

And everyone is just.

Well, welcome to the actual Snake and Jake's.

I don't I don't think and Barry, correct me if I'm wrong.

And I mean, if I did it, I must have been somewhere else.

But have I ever been in that barn?

Not that I know.

I don't think I've ever.

I have.

Yeah, it's not super worth it.

It is a good place to go at like three or four a.m.

If you want to see some really weird shit.

Yeah, that's true.

Yeah, that's true.

You know what? I can get that a camp.

I can get that a camp and wear my sweatpants.

So in general, at three or four a.m.

That the weirdos and I mean that in a loving way, same to congregate in there.

And also in front of I'm going to she's going to get me because I'm going to say it wrong.

Calliope.

No, you said it right.

You said it wrong.

You said it exactly.

Calliope.

I'm not doing this.

Exactly.

It's Calliope and they move the goddamn hill.

OK, it's not happening.

All right.

It's Calliope.

I live a mile and a half from Calliope Street.

It is Calliope.

I remember back in the day.

Well, not back in the day, but three or four years ago, you would go over there like three,

four a.m. or whatever.

And that is where like the Burning Man type of weirdos would come out.

That's on her.

Yeah, that's where we were last year.

It was it was great.

I had a good time.

Three in the morning.

Yeah, it was great.

You ever any of you has ever been shirtless?

I go shirtless.

Any of you?

Barry?

What is your obsession with it?

He was trying to get me to do it months ago for some reason.

It's kind of freeing, to be honest, at Bonnarooo.

Jake did it at Rich Brian.

I've got a couple days shirtless.

The show that you wanted to see more than anything this year.

You already know my answer.

Time.

I am.

Yeah, it would be EOB.

Ed O'Brien.

It would be 1975 or Vampire Weekend for me.

OK, very interesting that the.

Yeah, well, Charlotte.

Run the jewels.

Oh, yeah.

Nice.

Very interesting.

The kids said 1975, you guys are so emo.

It's very strange.

So you're going to.

So as a guy that plays 1975 on a regular basis, I've met them several times.

I've got their signed vinyl.

I can't pick one of them out of a lineup.

Send them away if you want to.

I don't understand what this.

So Barry, the interesting thing about this is that.

Radio in general is having a very hard time differentiating and finding a place for bands that are doing really, really well online and not so well on on radio, right?

They're not really selling units, but are streaming like crazy.

And 1975 is one of these bands.

They just their numbers are through the roof, but you can't find a hit.

None of them will find anywhere on the air.

And I don't know how to curb that.

I can't figure out who these people are that are listening in 1975 and what they like about this.

The thing I like about that band is like I hear different songs from them that almost sound like they're from entirely different genres.

Yes, completely all the place.

And that's why I fear them, because it almost comes across as Judah and the lion in that you want to be everything to everybody, but you're nothing to anyone.

I mean, I get that.

I think I think their execution personally is a little bit better than that.

I mean, me and Parker about this conversation before that, I think they're one of the fewer mainstream.

I mean, you know, they're pop.

They're not really rock anymore, but pop bands that are actually taking chances with their records.

If you were to listen to all of them in a row, I mean, they do have a progression of sound somewhat.

And each album does sound pretty unique.

And the production is fantastic.

And I mean, even on their newest album, they have a lot of electronic and dance influences.

And yeah, I don't know.

It's what do you guys actually do for a living?

And I don't even know this, Daniel.

Oh, yeah.

Daniel works for like the moon.

The moon is for him.

I don't do the fancy stuff.

I work in communications and I don't give a shit if you mop the floors.

I work at NASA.

That's a good one.

I love that.

I don't do the fancy stuff.

I work at NASA.

I get to hang out with people that do the fancy stuff.

So that's pretty cool.

Right.

And Charlotte, I don't know what you do.

What did you do?

Nothing now.

You got a band that works at NASA.

No, I mean, I did something, but, you know, 2020.

Yeah.

COVID.

You know, I know I worked at a museum.

I worked in tourism.

You worked at the NASA music.

Yeah, I worked at the NASA museum, but there's no more museums.

Tourism 2020.

Man, I know actually several people that work in museums and literally all of them got crushed.

It's amazing that, you know, my industry is starting to feel it too.

I mean, radio people are getting cut and cut and cut.

It's amazing when you look around the room.

Barry, corner sill employed.

It's nuts, you know, of all the technologies, papers.

How's the paper doing, Barry?

Very well.

Yeah.

Very well.

Yeah.

You know why?

Because we're going to comfort food.

Information.

People are going to comfort food.

I bet you if I go around the room right now, you guys are not listening to new music.

No, that's what we were talking about was.

Yeah, yeah.

You were talking about radio.

You're listening to entertainment, Daniel.

Don't go too crazy.

Well, Slow Rush has been on repeat since Valentine's Day, but, well, I guess it isn't new music,

but one of my other favorite albums this year was from The Strokes and Glass Animals.

I would make those two round out my top three so far.

Oh, and the new My Morning Jacket, too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You guys, RooHamms, they shook their head no.

You're not listening to anything new, huh?

Well, no, I would.

My consumption of new stuff is based around events like this.

Like, that's how I discover new stuff.

And so now that all of these, Bonnarooo and the local stuff is off the board, I guess that,

like, that way of consuming things is out of my life.

Yeah, same with me.

It's a mix.

I mean, I still listen to new music, but it's definitely not as much as it was.

You just made me think about something that's really interesting.

Barry, I don't think we've ever touched on this, but especially even offline in conversations,

but I'm, because of COVID and the lack of needing to be engaged in this, even as somebody

who does this for a living, I don't even know when something new comes out.

I'm trying to think of, there was an artist that came out, if Frank Ocean released a song

right now, I don't think I would even notice.

Well, I mean, for me, if it didn't come to the paper, or if I didn't hear about it from

you, I wouldn't know.

You know, no, I get exactly what you're saying.

I had this new artist tell you about her names.

Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.

Well, I mean, they're not releasing a lot.

There's very few being released.

So, no, I was thinking about that the other day.

You're myself, uh, just the, the, there's avenues of how I used to get information.

There's just not there.

It's like, I'm not even paying attention.

Well, the last records I got from Rust and Wax, our record shop that we buy from, uh,

Radiohead and King Crimson.

Mine was Solomon Burke.

Yeah.

From his first solo album in 1957.

Yeah, catching up on it.

So I'm catching up on the old stuff.

You know, I said to you guys, like when advantage that 2020 has brought is I've been able to

discover more local artists.

You know, usually in the first half of 2020, I would be learning the new artists that are

on the Roo poster that I didn't know that I wanted to check out in June.

But this year, since there's not really any live shows, I've been hearing a lot more from

like Huntsville artists or from Nashville artists that I didn't know.

You know, like some of the artists that have been coming to play like our little secret

boundaries in near Winchester.

DJ Polly, this guy out of Nashville, I think, best EDM artist I've heard in a long time.

And he was there playing on the back of a trailer, you know, like just in front of our bus.

We had a band, Tacoo, you played them on the podcast a little bit.

Seeds out of Huntsville?

Seeds?

Yeah, seeds?

With a question mark?

Yeah, yeah.

It's the weirdest thing, like they're heavily influenced by, you know, party bands like

Cherub or whatever.

And it's not like anything else that you're hearing out there.

And it's kind of weird.

They're almost like a jam band where you have to like see a live show to like know like,

oh, this is what these guys are about.

Yeah.

I really think that's how we're going to emerge out of this is local, small, small shows,

small venues, local bands that aren't having to travel very far, promoters that are willing

to do it.

And I think what we'll see is some of the even bigger name ones that we would normally

have to see in a big building, you know, a big venue, pay a lot for, are going to be

so glad to be out that we're going to see them in smaller places.

That's what I'm hearing, how it's going to work.

We're not going to just all of a sudden land back in the 40, 50, 60,000, you know, people

events.

It's going to be the small ones.

Well, I would say the reason why you're not going to see that is because they're not going

to be doing them.

Well, that's right.

But they're going to have to start somehow.

And so it's going to be these small things like you're talking about.

Well, I think Seeds was thrilled to be able to play for 10 people, 20 people, 50 people,

you know.

Well, that was the first time they had played live since January and they were just dying

to get out there.

Exactly.

We paid them in margaritas and pizza and they were more than happy to be there.

Pay it in margaritas and pizza.

I think that was a Jimmy Buffett song, wasn't it?

At some point.

I like it.

So when what have you guys actually done?

Have you done any sort of shows?

Have you done a drive in show?

Have you done other than the live cast thing?

We might have done that.

We went to a little miniature drive in EDM festival about a month or so ago and I was

really impressed.

Yeah.

Nothing about that.

That math does not add up.

Similar to what you had described that that thing that you went to near New Orleans, they

obviously took a lot of precaution and a lot of thought into it.

And we stayed around the bus, climbed on top of it and was able to see the stage from there

and everyone was super respectful.

You drove the bus then?

Yeah.

I mean, it was in Huntsville.

It was only like a 20 minute drive from my house.

But how they gave you a spot for the bus.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, having some kind of visual spectacle helps with that sort of thing, I guess.

Nothing at the bottom in Iowa and Minnesota.

Nothing.

I mean, we haven't really had any drive in shows, at least that I have been aware of.

I've watched, I mean, back in May, like I watched a virtual EDM festival out in California.

And I mean, I was pretty impressed at how it happened.

And I've watched a couple of random one off online shows.

But overall, I don't think the experience is quite the same unless it's kind of in person, like they're talking about with the drive in.

So I haven't really seek to mount.

The only thing that matters when it happens is that it's happening.

Right. And you're just there doing it.

And something I've given Barry a lot of shit for in the last few years is that he'll say when we're talking about Bonnaroo, he'll say something like, well, you're there.

What else are you going to do?

What are you going to do?

The drive in shows as much as corny as they are and how silly they are.

But my God, you're doing something.

And I was shocked at how well the one we went to was it was almost like the real thing.

I mean, everyone was staying in their space and doing their thing in their little corner.

But it was like going to a real live show.

Yeah. Yeah. If I had them up by me, I'd totally love to go.

I mean, it sounds fun.

When you guys you guys drive, you separately drive to Bonnaroo, who him guys.

Well, when we went to pick him up on the way, this year would have been a little bit different.

But go ahead, Parker.

Well, yeah. Well, he was the last two years he's been in Iowa.

So we just made up.

Yeah. And we but you have to drive through Des Moines that way anyway.

So we take we took what three separate cars and then basically everybody meets at Parker's house because we're all within Iowa meet there.

Take three separate cars down.

This year would have been a little bit different because we were planning on doing group.

So we had people from a couple of different states.

So we would have to have like pick up points along the way.

That's that is an ultimate diva.

Brad move is take three cars.

You drive one, you ditch it, you get another one and then you drive it, you ditch it and then get the rest of the way and want another one.

Sounds like you're pulling a heist. Yeah.

Three different cars. What's the drive like?

How far is that drive? It's about 12 hours.

Yeah. Hey, guys, do you see how we're losing Barry?

You see how dad's starting to fall asleep?

I'm hearing a little bit of the echo again.

Barry, start.

I'm shaking my head about the 12 hours and I'm hearing this echo.

That's why it's interesting when you guys are like, you know, it's just a couple hours because 12 hour drive is part of the experience for us.

Yeah, for us, that's like the fun part is like half the experiences us having like like we cherish Waffle House, which is probably funny to you guys.

Like we think that's really sweet.

We don't have to drink this ham.

We cherish Waffle House.

Nothing wrong with Waffle House.

Waffle House is like the creme de la creme of restaurants for us.

But we always say you guys are the power.

It's superb. Yeah.

But, you know, like we have there's a city called Metropolis and it's at what, the point of Illinois?

Yeah, it's got a giant Superman.

And so we always go there and there's like little things along the way that are just like it's part of it.

And so at least for us, I think if we cut that drive down to 45 minutes to an hour, I mean, obviously, it'd be nice, but it would cut out a little bit of the fun.

That's fair.

What is fun about 12 hours in the car?

You're just you're with your homies and you're chilling.

I don't know.

I mean, I mean, I don't know what to say.

Do you think with my homies sounds fun to me?

Brad, you want to take a 12 hour car ride with me?

I mean, we're homies.

I'll give you guys a say.

I've done that kind of thing, not to go, but like go with some buddies to Chicago.

And I thought I would have hated it, but I loved it.

It's just sitting around camp for 12 hours.

Like things just happen when you're tired and bored.

Things just happen.

I get it.

You know, I know about things that just happen.

Barry and I took one road trip together and it was to Louisville.

And that's been about it.

Yeah, it was nice.

It was good.

And then I was ready five and a half hours.

I love Louisville.

I just don't.

Nothing about that seems I've got a, I got a hard cap on being in the car, man.

And what's in Knoxville together?

Yeah, we are.

It was like two hours.

Now it's weird.

I get exactly what you're saying.

It's just so different for us because it's a stress thing.

We're all, I mean, the other guy that rides where it goes with us is even more stressed about getting there than I am.

Talking about Bryan Stone.

He's all panicked that things are not going to happen.

You know, credentials aren't going to be there.

What a car is going to break down, whatever.

So for us, it's just, and he's, we're 45 minutes away.

That's my point.

It's 45 minutes of this.

So yeah, 12 hours.

It's a lot of what you know.

I mean, like, that's just kind of what we're used to.

I mean, it's the same with like GA, like, I mean, we even partnered with this conversation.

Like, I don't think we'd really ever want to do VIP just because for us, like, again, part of the fun is GA.

I agree.

So it's all like one package together that makes it for us.

It's not like one specific thing.

How many is in your group there, Daniel, Sharla?

How many people you got up there?

Oh, man, it varies every year.

I think the biggest group we had was the last Bonnaroo.

It was us two, Brooklyn and Chelsea, our buddies, Aaron and Brandon, and then a shoe who came all the way from South Korea just to come to Bonnaroo.

Holy shit.

That's a drive.

Yeah.

So no complaint about the 12 hour drive at all.

We literally from the other side of the world.

Yeah, I'm not traveling to anything that far.

Never going to do that.

I like she had been to the US and went to some smaller things like that, but she hadn't experienced anything on the scale of Bonnaroo.

And when we met her over in Thailand at the backpacker place that we stayed at, she was a little timid, kind of quiet or whatever.

So I thought, like, oh, you know, maybe this is going to be too big for her.

She was partying harder than anyone I've ever seen at Bonnaroo.

It was fun.

Don't think you've seen Barry Courter.

I mean, I think that's part of it, though, isn't it?

You spend that 12 hours when you get there, you're ready to let it go.

So, yeah, I get it.

I truly do.

Do we know South Korea is a tough one to beat?

But do we know anybody in our direct circle, Taco, Barry that come more than an hour?

Absolutely not.

That's a good question.

We don't know one person that comes for.

No, they're all going to be the I'm going to be the one.

I'm the one that's going to be the long.

You're not the one.

Yeah, that's unbelievable.

So when you guys Parker, Jake, when you guys decided Daniel and Charlie different because they're in Alabama, but I don't mean Barry talk about this a lot.

We ask this question a lot, but it's so fascinating.

Why did you choose Bonnaroo when you first had the choice and you're in the middle of the country?

You're in fly over America.

Why did you choose this direction and not anywhere else?

Well, what's ironic about that is that I did not choose it from a list or whatever.

It was actually another separate group of friends that decided they were going and then I hopped on and then I was the only one in that group that became enthralled with it.

And then what do you mean became enthralled?

Why you were there?

Well, when I was there and also I was the only one that was like looking things up on Reddit, going to info route.

Everyone else was like, I don't know, we're just going to go see dead mouse is 2015.

You know, we're just going there for a concert.

But I was interested in the in like the bigger picture stuff.

And what's the menial shit that we talk about?

You know, what's interesting about Bonnaroo, I think, is the word of mouth marketing, because I think if you hear about Coachella, for example, I think a lot of people tell you that.

There's some cool music there, but it's a lot of, you know, not so interested people and it's just not a great atmosphere.

Whereas Bonnaroo, like what got me to go to Bonnaroo with Parker is him telling me just how cool it was and how it's really unlike anything you've probably ever been to.

And it's sort of it's all.

Did you tell that to and it break their heart?

Because I feel like me and Barry have told other people about how great Bonnaroo is and they'll show up and like, this shit sucks.

I mean, yeah, it depends.

Like it's some people that's like not their thing.

And I think for other people, at least for me, it's something where they didn't know that was their thing.

I'm not a camper by any means or a hiker or anything like that.

But like once I was there, I was like, this feels amazing.

I want to keep going back and back.

It's all about hanging out with the homies.

What were you going to say, Daniel?

Oh, we were just kind of talking amongst ourselves.

Like I won't name names, but like we've had a different crowd come with us every year.

And out of the lot of people that come hang around with us in the bus, like we've only had like one guy that was just like he didn't hate it.

But he was just like, I had fun.

I don't think I'm coming back.

Wasn't entirely for me.

It's just going to ask Brad who we talked to and the going that then didn't like it.

I can't you don't you don't know these people.

And by the way, it's the people that are in the reason I say that it's the people that I think will do really well there that usually don't.

It's the people that I never would anticipate in a million years liking it.

Absolutely fall in love with it.

My only thing I would like it.

Am I?

No, I didn't.

No, I didn't.

I don't know. And all this is you can't you can't explain it to people, you know, the people have in their mind.

They think it's just a big mud pit, you know, a hot, sweaty mud pit.

And they don't understand that we glamp basically or you make it camp as comfortable as you want.

And there's so many cool things that you just can't.

I mean, every year we sit around and we're like, yeah, you just can't explain to people.

Anybody on Sunday morning, you know, they're morning.

Well, I'm just saying that's the that's the seems to be the motion.

Yeah, I will say the one thing that gets everybody when we start talking about this, the one thing that gets them every time is when I say the words, Bloody Mary bar.

Yeah.

We have our entire body Mary bar.

You know, it's not it's not it's quite comfortable.

We have a good time.

And I think about and Daniel is to your point much earlier

It's a lot like the way and I really really loved what Reddaroo did

with that campsite and and the way that they sort of just owned that space and said

Um, we're gonna make this as baller and comfortable as possible. That's exactly the point to me

Uh, and anybody that walks in i've never really understood the people that walk in and the the hams might be this way

But they walk in and just plop down a tent and then they're satisfied. That's cool

I mean I can see how they do that, but I don't know how they exist like that

I want camp to be the goofiest

Funnest most comfortable

That comes with experience thing that you can possibly create maybe

Um, but I can't imagine going there and just plopping a tent down saying i'll be good here

That's what I did the first year two years. It was awful

That's what parker and I did the first year too

like we had a camp we had a cooler two chairs and a canopy and then

And we loved it. But then next year we were like, okay, like we

We you had a canopy. I had an umbrella

Follow you got us beat there

Hey guys, I just got some breaking news, uh barry just tweeted like a minute ago that the virtual reality is definitely next weekend

They just put out a cool little promo video

Nice now, how do you know it's a cool promo video and you're not even watching it?

I'm literally watching it on my ipad right next to my computer screen

I see it

Okay. Yeah. All right. So next weekend. Yeah, it's like a black screen to me

Uh, so here's what he's in the video. Yeah

um, and you know the thing that would be interesting and this is what you know, I think that

Coachella it wasn't coachella. It was um, uh,

Uh a lot of clues a lot of those did a nice job of like curating a playlist and all this stuff

But it would be really more interesting if they got some of the artists actually play

Uh, this is all cute and all that they can curate a live thing

But isn't there somebody already doing that isn't there that guy that that puts together the live

Feed, uh, there's like a guy that puts together live performances every weekend and you can like at home

For a few hours a weekend. Yeah, that's all yes boundary 365. It's been

Yeah, that guy job at that. Yeah, honestly, he has spoiled this whole thing because like I feel like

That's right who i've been watching that are going to have high expectations for whatever barter is actually doing so

It's uh homeroo on twitch if we're if we're dropping the yeah, that's exactly what i'm talking about

If somebody can do that from their house

Uh, I don't I don't know if it really you know moves the needle if it's a brand doing it

That's just me. Uh, and a couple months ago

I want some live performances, man. I want some live stuff, but put something in some new content out

It was a couple months ago. They had someone play a live set. They premiered a new song

I can't remember who it was. It was back in was it big wild rich brian?

No, oh god, I wish

All right, there you go, uh time to wrap up

Uh, everybody got a little bit of hams left. We can do a big cheers and hams by the way. Thanks

Thank you guys for sending. Thanks for the hams. Yeah. Yeah, that's no problem. I will say I mean it's it's it's something that you can drink and not

Uh think about whatsoever. Uh, you know, I think that's the that's the most positive review that we're gonna get for you

I appreciate that

I drank it. I feel great. I think it's the fact that brad actually sipped it is the is the big compliment

It was even cracked nothing sits in the sun better. Yeah

I love that. It's a good dinner beer. I had dinner before I was recording him

I often thought through this, you know if I was baking a pasta or

You know a nice etouffee, you know what i'd love right now a hams

Yeah, if all the ice melted in my trunk it would taste like hams and I couldn't keep the beer cold

No, it's good and I really appreciate you guys doing it it's cool

Yeah, I mean I really do I really like I

Yeah, thanks so much and I really can't get over the amount of love that somebody has for a brand. It really is uh

It's awkward for sure

but it's interesting because like

You've really got to be tied to a brand and taco is is taco because he I mean, but it's pbr, right?

It's a known entity to be this obsessed with a a product that you know

Maybe a percentage of the population has in you know

You might as well just talk about meth, you know

That's the uh, it's a side

Are you gonna mail some meth is that next

This would be really weird if that was the case no spoilers no spoilers

All right, very cool, all right, very quick you guys love you. Cheers

Lutaco parker jake daniel charlotte. Thank you so much for joining us guys

Everyone all right. Yeah until uh next time will we all crowd into taco's bus

Yeah, I need to clean up a little bit it'll be next weekend, yep, all right to you guys

Yep, all right to you guys