Believe it or not, we're counting down six weeks until Bonnaroo 2024.

The month of May is here.

It's time if you haven't already started packing, you better get going.

And if you're not already out there walking or running or exercising, man, you better

start because Bonnaroo is coming.

You're here to talk about it right now on the What Podcast.

Welcome back to the What Podcast.

I'm Barry.

That's Russ, Lord Taco and Brian.

How are you guys doing?

Doing well.

Good to see you.

Doing great.

Doing great.

Good to see you guys.

Man, what a beautiful week we've had weather wise.

We've got so much to talk about.

None of it I'm going to say is earth shattering.

I'm going to have some fun.

It's been such a pretty week.

Brian I know you got to go down to Atlanta and see a great baseball game.

That had to be pretty awesome.

Yeah.

April games in Atlanta used to be a staple in my life.

There's you know, hashtag my month, best month ever.

I do this annoying crap here locally all the time.

But it is true how much I do have fun in this month and Braves games used to always be a

guarantee.

There was going to be one every April and that has fallen off last, I don't know, half

decade or so just because you know, things happen.

And then somebody hit me up and said, hey man, how about you for your best month ever?

Here's some tickets.

He's kind of being a smart ass.

Well, okay.

Be a smart ass.

Okay.

A really super cool smart ass.

Ouch.

And then so yeah, me and my brother ran down there for the day.

Nothing special, did run into a very cool minor mini kind of celebrity, which we'll

go down that road here in a few and I'll get to that here once we do that.

That actually kind of falls in line with what we're talking about.

But a fantastic weekend.

Did you run into Daniel?

I did not.

Ruebos Daniel did text me shortly after you did like, hey, we're here.

I was like, well, I am about to Cartersville.

So this day is over.

Yeah, he sent me a text and said, I'm pretty sure I just saw Bryan Stone.

And I said, well, you probably did because he's there too.

He said, I think I'd saw you.

And the thing about going to a Braves game is everybody looks the same.

It's kind of like going to Bonnaroo.

Everybody is wearing the Braves gear.

So everybody looks like pretty much the same.

And then when they were playing the Guardians, don't call them Indians, they have the same

colors.

So every single big Indians fans, Guardians fans all across the country.

And so they're everywhere too, except they all look the same.

So I bet he didn't actually see me.

I see.

Well, so last week you...

Well, if you're ever...

Go ahead.

I'm sorry, Russ.

So last week, you come down to Lo Main and ignore me.

And then this week you went to the Braves game and ignored Daniel.

What actually happened, Daniel, was I saw you and Sharla and I down the left real hard

around the escalators and I ran away.

Yeah.

Well, if you're ever unsure if you're seeing a celebrity, Bryan Stone out in the wild,

he's the guy in the socks up to his knees that look like he pulled them out of a laundromat

from 1979.

Yes.

I've been wearing stupid looking socks way before everybody else was wearing stupid looking

socks.

And he's proud of it too.

I am.

Damn it.

Now it's cool.

I fade in and out of fashion, Barry.

I fade in and out.

I don't know if it's true.

Hang on long enough, man.

It'll come back around.

I know.

It always does.

And Ross, you had a bugapalooza.

The weather has just been glorious.

So I'm hopeful for mid-June.

If it can be anywhere like what we've just had, it'll be awesome.

This is a good preview.

I love the weather.

All right.

So you mentioned the celebrity thing.

I got to go.

Now you guys know me well enough.

You make fun of me.

I'm that guy that once I get home, I'm not getting off the couch.

It takes a stick of dynamite.

I turned into that guy and I said I'd never be that guy.

And that's turned into me too.

But I saw a thing come up here in town.

May Pang was coming to town.

I don't know if you guys know who May Pang is.

I could very easily play the smart guy here and go along with this, but I'm not going

to do that.

I had no idea who May Pang was until I saw your post and then a local guy who's a Beatles

mania fan, music guy, Ryan Oyer here in town.

He made it happen as well.

And then one or two others and they were all Beatle crazies.

So I was like, okay.

So what is this?

Yoko Ono's like stepsister or something?

Who is this?

And then I did all the research and I now know, but I didn't before that.

So I read this book.

I don't even know when.

Look, so put it this way.

In my family, when we get together for Thanksgiving and Christmas, there is always 15 to 20 minutes

of Beatle discussion.

It's been that way since I was born.

My two older brothers are fanatical.

They had the Beatle haircuts and the cardboard boxes in the driveway.

They saw the Sullivan show and our musicians because of it, like tens of millions of other

people of their age.

I mean, it's, you have no idea.

I'm looking around my room.

It's Beatles, Beatles, Beatles, Beatles.

So 1973, John and Yoko are having, having skids and she kicks him out.

Well May Pang was their secretary and they moved to California.

She goes with him.

They ended up having a relationship for 18 months.

They're hanging out with Harry Nielsen, you know, Neri Hilsson, without you can't live

without you.

If living is, can't live if living is without you do nothing but party, drink, get in the

paper.

It's, you know, it's, it's amazing.

But even my wife, it was funny.

She was like, why are you going?

And I was like, well, first of all, to Beatle, this is as close, you know, anytime I can

get anywhere in the same room with anything Beatle, I'm going.

And my older brother, Mike is the same.

And I said, so we going.

It was at Arts Build here in town, which is a fundraising organization.

Really cool.

She's a photographer.

So she had all these pictures of John that she had taken.

It was really cool.

I was stunned to say, I saw the Ryan Oyer post on Facebook and a bunch of other local

people too.

So it was really kind of cool to see the turnout number one and see who else are, you know,

fanatical Beatle fans.

But what made me think about it is, so I did, you know, almost four decades in the newspaper

business as the, as an entertainment reporter.

So I mean, I've talked to a lot of celebrities and this is what made me think of it.

I always make the joke that I never wanted to go Chris Farley.

You know, we all know Chris Farley.

That was awesome.

You know when you were in the Beatles?

Remember that time?

Yeah.

Remember when you were in the Beatles?

That's good stuff.

I mean, even though you don't even have to be, a lot of different age groups still know

that throwback.

Right.

And so, I mean, I had that happen to me.

I got to interview Brian Wilson on the phone and I was petrified.

I would have trouble for a lot of different reasons, but one of them being such a fan

of Brian Wilson.

Oh my God.

I was petrified.

I was like, I don't know about my brothers.

Typically I wouldn't, but I knew if I didn't and I didn't ask the right question, they

would give me shit forever.

Yeah.

So I was like, you know, what's the question?

And they had nothing either.

They had nothing.

What do you ask Brian Wilson?

Other than, yeah, why is Mike Love such a, you know, putz?

I got one good answer out of Brian.

I said, when did you know that it was for Pet Sounds?

I said, when did you know that it was special?

And he said, when I heard my brother saying, God only knows.

And I was like, cool.

All right.

I'm good.

Yeah.

Everything else was grunts and groans.

And so anyway, we get there and it's pretty laid back.

It's pretty cool.

Glad we're there.

She's great.

Her photos are, you know, they're high end dollar.

They were a little out of our price range.

So we ended up, both of us, we get a signed poster.

Oh, nice.

And a cool, nice little vinyl sleeve I've never seen before.

And Barry, sorry.

I think you already said, but I might have missed.

Was she pushing a book or an art gallery or both?

Well, see, that's what I didn't quite know.

So I took this book, which I knew she wouldn't sign because I knew, you know, I know how

these gigs work.

She's there to sell.

Yeah.

Sell stuff and sign it.

Right.

And so I asked James McKissick, who runs ArtsBuild, how she got here.

And it's a friend of a friend kind of thing.

It's just so random for her to be in Chattanooga in a small little...

Yeah.

Blindsided me.

I had no idea.

Absolutely.

But so first of all, Mike and I were both like, man, are we going to go?

Because he's about as bad as I am, but he'll get in the car and drive for a concert out

of town where I won't.

But we went, she was great.

And we, you know, I had all these questions.

I wanted to ask about Nielsen.

I wanted to ask about John, of course, Yoko, what it was like.

And the point of all this is we get to the table and the three people before us dominated

the conversation.

One woman wanted to talk about being in Manhattan visiting and where's a good place to eat.

Oh yeah.

It's not like there's not a thousand resources for that.

There's 20 people in line.

And you, this is a good idea in your mind.

The whole reason I do a podcast every week, Barry, is to talk about the human condition.

So I was like, wow.

And both Mike and I just stood there like dummies.

I mean, it wasn't even Chris Farley.

It was like I said on Facebook, it was more like Ralphie in Christmas story with when

he meets Santa.

I got nothing.

How about a nice football, Ralphie?

Mike finally, there was a picture of John from Walls and Bridges of him sticking his

tongue out.

And Mike was like, was that your idea?

And she told the story.

And then she told, ask if we had seen the documentary, which is the point to your question,

Brian, why she was in town.

A couple of years ago, I think it's about that year and a half Netflix or no Prime released

a documentary called The Lost Weekend, which is what everybody sort of knows that was 18

months as that's really, really good.

So can recommend everybody to see that.

I was, it's funny.

The other night, Kelly was like, what do you want to watch?

And I said, I know, because you're getting ready to go to sleep.

So I'm going to watch this documentary.

She watched the entire thing.

It's that good.

It's if you like Beatles, if you like history, you like music, it's really quick.

It's 90 minutes, but it's quick, quick, quick edits.

The dynamic of John and Yoko certainly is one of the most, I guess, fascinating would

be the word to use of rock relationship, at least, you know, modern history anyway.

And I was shocked when I saw or I guess I was surprised by all of it because I didn't

know any of it that that Yoko like, this was like a sanctioned thing with with John and

and May.

It was like, yeah, here, John, y'all go do this for a little while.

I'm like, my God, that was I mean, I know it was 60s, but it's still this 60s.

Now I would get it.

Like it would make sense because people are freaks.

Even May, when she was talking to us was like, you know, everybody thinks she's she arranged

it.

That's how it was written when I read it.

I don't know.

I guess everyone thought that.

And it wasn't that the arrangement was more that May would go out and be his secretary

and take care of him.

It was not go be his girlfriend type of thing, even though that's why I always thought it

was.

That's the way it reads.

Yeah, that's the way it was presented and sold.

But she says no.

So anyway, it just it made me think I'd never I'm the last guy in the world.

If I was sitting next to Jesus at a restaurant, I would not turn and say hi.

I would never interrupt anybody like that.

I've never been that guy.

But in my whole career, everything was arranged.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, you're going to call this person at 10 o'clock.

And I'm like, cool, I'm good with that.

I'm comfortable with that.

They know it.

I know it.

You know, but to interrupt somebody and just walk up, I never could do it.

I've only done that once.

And it was somewhat it was pretty shameful.

First for real, like running into somebody like completely out of nowhere, not in any

kind of working environment, not in any kind of like, you know, place where there's you

wouldn't be surprised if maybe there was somebody there.

It was a Ruby to know Applebee's Applebee's on Shaliford Road here in the city of Chattanooga.

John Smoltz was there with his family and it appeared it would look like they were traveling

as some kind of travel ball.

Now he retired in 2008.

This would have been like 2004 to 10 years ago, something like that.

And people are sitting there eating text me like, hey, John Smoltz is here.

And I was like, y'all are crazy.

And I grabbed a baseball and I went to Applebee's and then I went and went to his table and

asked him to sign the ball.

And everybody at the bar was talking about it because it had gotten around.

I mean, he'd been there for a little bit as a big table.

And it was like, should we go?

Should we go?

Should we talk to him?

Who's going to do it?

I was like, I'll do it.

I had no shame at anything at that point.

And I walked up and I said something along the lines of John, I would never live with

myself if I didn't ask you to sign this ball right now.

And he did it and he looked annoyed, but it wasn't too bad.

And then I set the trend.

The whole damn bar all started walking over to his table.

And I got the hell out of there.

And I was like, what have I done?

Never again.

I'll never do that again.

Man.

So this is the reason why I wanted to talk about this because I've done both.

I mean, all right, I'm going to go ahead and you guys are going to kill me for this because

I can't believe I did it.

You know, Jim James and My Morning Jacket is my favorite current touring band.

I do know that.

Yep.

Got to have him on the podcast two years ago.

Yeah.

Great show.

Bonnaroo was having them back.

They were releasing the live album from that epic-

2004, right?

2004, Show in the Rain.

Russ, one of the best interviews, one of the best interviews of my life, not just for this

podcast, right?

He called us from what, Belgium?

Yeah.

He was way out of the country, somewhere in Europe.

I think Belgium is right.

And wherever he was, it looked like he was like in a void because he looked like he was

in like, yeah, yeah, he looked like he was in a closet or something.

Yeah, yeah.

I remember that show.

But he talked about, I mean, he was so open, right?

I mean, he talked about-

Yeah, he was so friendly.

... mental stability and how standing there on that stage, barefooted in the rain, that

if he died, he would be okay with it.

I mean, whatever.

So obviously I'm a huge- So that Bonnaroo, it's late, it's 11, 1130.

I'm in basically pajamas because it's cold.

And I thought, I'm going to go to the media area tent.

And I walked in and he's being interviewed by the girl who's doing the whatever, the

vibe.

The Hulu stream.

Hulu stuff.

Yeah.

And he walks right by me.

I'm talking 18 inches and I never said a word.

And as soon as he was three feet away, I was like, you will never in your life have a better

opportunity to have just said, hey man, we were on the phone together two weeks ago.

Hi.

Yeah, you had a perfect reason to say hi too.

I just froze.

I was so caught off guard and just not in that head space.

And that's a legitimate, I mean, you're in a position in that environment, there's nothing

at all taboo or wrong with that at all.

But he probably talked to a lot of people two weeks ago, Barry.

I mean, that's what I would be thinking.

It is.

My first thought would be, hey, we talked a couple of weeks ago.

Oh yeah?

I mean, I'm talking to 10 other people.

Which one wasn't?

I don't even remember who I talked to two weeks ago.

I know.

I've always sort of said, and I don't mean this as flipping as it sounds, but if I feel

like it's a moment that they felt like they had some sort of personal interaction, they

don't have to remember my name or anything, but not just I'm one of 5,000 people in a

line getting an autograph.

That doesn't do anything for me.

I probably have four autographed pictures in my office here.

Yeah I get that part too, the standing in line kind of thing.

Anybody can do that.

There's no story there.

And anything's a story in somebody's life.

I don't mean to downplay that.

If you enjoy that, standing in line, getting autographed, especially if you're a kid, that's

a little bit different.

But I understand what you mean by that 100%.

It is interesting because especially with musicians, you never know.

Are they annoyed by this or are they excited by it?

And occasionally they are excited by it, maybe more than occasionally.

And when they are, you can usually tell.

You can usually tell.

And it is so satisfying because when you just feel like someone just waiting for you to

get done, I don't even necessarily blame somebody for being that way.

A lot of these, talking about the musicians, a lot of these interviews that are set up

on formally more traditional styles, print and radio, those guys are on 15 minute blocks

and they're running through these.

And now it's next, it's WSJC in South Carolina, you're next in five, fourth.

And then it's like click and then on to the next.

And guess what his next question is.

Tell me about the new record.

Are you proud of it?

Where did the name Beatles come from?

I haven't heard that one before.

And you know these guys, and most of the super professionals that know this, that are in

this world, they know what they're doing and they play it up.

But there are times when you can tell, and I've been on a few from a production angle

more than the actual host with local people here where it's like, man, this is fun because

they're having fun.

We've had the same guest that we've had, Paul Janeway.

That was from St. Paul in Brokenbone.

From St. Paul, that boy, that was back in the day.

I know.

And we had the same connection.

I told that story the other day about the guy peeing on his back.

Also one of my favorite interviews ever because he's just a human being.

Curtis Salgado, I don't know if you know that name, he was the singer for Carlos Santana

for several years.

I didn't get to interview Santana, but I got Curtis and he was unbelievable.

So much so that I actually went backstage and saw him across the barge there.

I know you've been on it.

It's a big place.

And I yelled and I'm like, hey, it's Barry.

We talked the other day and he was like, oh, he came over.

Yeah, you have those connections.

Lucinda Williams that way, who I was petrified to interview because I just thought she could

be kind of persnickety.

But she was like, I don't have to go anywhere.

You want to talk some more?

Do you have any more questions?

I was like, cool.

She's like, yeah, this was like a conversation.

It wasn't like an interview.

And I'm like, well, that's what I try to do.

That's a dream.

And I don't have a ton of experience with big names, a lot of middle to lower level

names.

What's his name that we all did at Moon River?

From Judah the Lion, Judah himself.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

All that stuff is rapid fire and we're moving and just like that's a really, I don't want

to act like it's difficult.

Like, oh, we're having to work hard.

But it is a difficult environment because you don't really know where you're going to

be every few minutes and you got to be locked and loaded and ready and da da da da.

And you're conditioned to move fast in everything you're doing.

Move fast.

Let's go, let's go, let's go.

That dude would have sat around and sat for an hour.

It would appear.

Really enjoyed the conversation and that was cool.

So you never know when you're going to get that because they don't let you know in advance.

Hey, Barry, this guy actually wants to talk to you.

This guy doesn't.

They've been there.

Make them sound the same.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, it's funny.

I won't name names, but I know several reporters who always like to say, I like to ask different

questions.

I'm like, really?

Well, that's a good idea.

I never thought of that.

What a revolutionary move in your broadcast career.

Yeah.

So I mean, there's that.

So that part never made me nervous because I think the other thing for me is to not have,

I always hate when you can tell that the interviewer has like five questions written down and they're

going to get to all five of them.

I'm like, if the first question leads us down a road that's really interesting, that's where

we're going.

Well, and that's what separates the men and boys and the reels and the not so reels and

the people who know how to do this.

And that's the people who have the positions to do this kind of things, have these kinds

of conversations, these kinds of interviews, whether print or online content, however the

content is distributed, the difference in the person that can just write down the questions

and then, or the person who can flow with it and create it as it goes, that's an ocean

size difference.

But those same people work in the same buildings right next to each other.

The qualifications for getting those jobs are pretty close to the same.

You don't have to prove that you're great to be able to be great.

You just have to prove that you can communicate, that you can handle the pressure.

After that, it takes a very special person, which I don't believe I have it in me to the

level I wish I did, to really be like, okay, that first one, we're going to go down that

and we're going to splinter off of that.

Man, that's tough because you've got to be listening, thinking, you've got to be, your

brain's got to be really put together well.

Yep.

Take some talent.

I'd like to think that's what I do and that's my intention because I can't even tell you

how many times we, you know, it's like, I didn't know that was going there.

But like Jim James, I didn't know that was going there.

Did you?

I mean, Ross, I had no, you know, would have never imagined.

No.

I mean, those are the best.

Those are the best.

Those are the best.

But really when that's the hardest part, you know, that's the part you got to focus the

most on.

It's still a pretty easy gig.

We're still not laying, we're still not laying brick.

Yeah, and I want to, so those are the, the Jim James one is one of my most embarrassing,

one of the best and I just, I'll tell this one and then we'll see where it goes.

But because I'm kind of, I'm basically shy that way.

I'm not a walk up on the table type of guy.

So I went to New York for, oh, some Disney film.

I can't even think of what it was.

One of the Disney cartoons.

It was a junket.

They, David Hyde Pierce, not David Hyde Pierce.

Anyway, it doesn't matter.

It's a big movie, all kinds of stars and celebrity, and they were going to have a dinner

in central park after the interviews.

I mean, this is how dumb and naive I am.

I've never been to New York and you guys will appreciate this.

I'm thinking chicken dinners on a park bench from some local deli, right?

You know, it's just, I wouldn't know what to expect either.

I mean, that sounds pretty good to me.

Yeah, I know it'd be fine.

Yeah.

I was staying in a nice hotel on central park room service, you know, eggs Benedict was

like 45 bucks.

So I'm thinking, I could get dinner in the room and watch TV.

And another reporter was like, no, come on.

You gotta go.

You gotta go.

Anyway, long story.

We get on this bus, we pull into central park, the sun is setting.

They've got tents everywhere.

Linen tablecloths, carving roast beef, any kind of liquor, beer, whatever you wanted.

And I'm now I know Disney does things pretty first class, right?

I would guess so.

I would guess so.

Having very little experience with anything.

Well, they've flown all these reporters from all over the world, just to put it so.

Sure.

So anyway, I get my big plate of food and whatever Heineken, you know, high dollar beer

I think I want and I sit down and I introduce myself to the three people.

And the two of them were the co-hosts for South Africa's version of entertainment tonight.

And the young woman was Nelson Mandela's niece.

Wow.

Okay.

Wow.

All right.

And I'm like, yeah, I almost went back to the hotel to watch three stooges episode.

Seinfeld.

And I swore never again, you know, say, never say no.

Never say no.

Yeah.

You never, you never know who you're going to run into when you're going to wear it,

run into and how that that's, that's where I try to continue to talk myself off the,

well off the ledge, out of the house, off the bed ledge, off the couch ledge is that

you never know who you're going to run into.

And like yesterday, perfect example, I'm hanging out at the ballpark and I guess I kind of

got two roads on this one, but I'll, I'll just start with who it was.

I'm getting close to leaving.

It's a full day of, of a meaningful house.

So it was big, big crowd, but not, not a uncomfortable full crowd.

And so we're just kind of hanging around in the battery.

Me and my battery and my brother, excuse me.

And come, if he wasn't in his tux, I don't know if I would have recognized him immediately,

but every Sunday at in the seventh inning, Timothy Miller sings, God bless America.

And it was, he comes walking down the street right out of the side of the building.

This was in the eighth or ninth inning.

And so he just gets done singing God bless America.

He's still in his tux walking on my Timothy Miller.

Yeah.

Opera, like one of the most well-known opera singers in the, in the city of, of Atlanta.

And it might be because he's on TV with the Braves and he does commercials, but he's not

a celebrity, but I'm just like, this is just made my day.

You know, the Braves are winning in dramatic fashion.

We're having, you know, I'm in my drinking and people having fun.

And I'm like, I just got to take a picture with Timothy Miller.

Like who the hell is Timothy Miller?

Okay.

I was like, well, let me tell you all about it.

And it was all, it was, it was so cool.

Yeah.

So this is where it's weird.

And this is where the whole Maypank thing freaked me out because in that environment,

I would think Timothy Miller wants to be recognized by Braves fans.

He did, he did, he did, he did.

Right?

I mean, well, if he's walking around in a tux around the stadium, yeah.

After just singing, right.

And same with May, you know, she was great, but I, I just froze and I couldn't tell you

why.

You both know our camp mates, Mike Dewar and Denson Lee.

Mike, and this fascinates me.

Mike has run the best music venues in town for 40 years.

Yeah.

Right.

Coming, venues that have come and gone and ones that are still, you know, up and going

now.

And he's still doing it.

He is the biggest gatecrasher I know.

And it just, that fascinates me.

Yeah.

You're right.

You know, he's that guy.

I would need, I would need a little backstory on this, Barry.

Oh my God.

He and Denson, these are our camp mates.

They have more stories about going to Bonnaroo and talking their way backstage, walking their

way backstage into nightclubs from New Orleans to New York.

I believe that with Denson, cause he's a, do you know who I am type.

Act like you've been there.

He's got the whole ninja, you know, ninja Godfather stuff.

I get that.

They have these great stories of, you know, turning around and being on the bus with the

dead or fish.

Well, I don't even, somebody just walked their, talked their way in.

And I remember asking Mike, I'm like, you make your living off of tickets, you know,

gate sales and you do this, you know, how do you feel about it?

And he laughed and he said, one of his favorite stories, some 17 year old girl, and I don't

know who the band was, but he knew of her kind of knew her cause she was around.

She'd come in at lunch or whatever, probably had an older sister and she really wanted

to see this band.

And she came to the door and all made up trying to look old.

And he's like, I can't, you know, I can't let you in.

And she left.

And an hour later, she came back and a whole different look.

And he was like, I gotta respect the play.

Hey, that's hard.

That's hard work.

If you get caught, you're never coming back.

I'm going to pretend to get busy for a second.

Real quick.

You get by me, then, uh, then we'll just have to deal with that later.

I just thought it was so funny, but that and the, this, you know, these guys are gate crash

and they just, yeah, just act like you belong there.

And that was the other thing I want to ask you guys.

We've talked about it on the show before.

I'm not the push my way to the front of the stage guy.

No, I've never been that way myself.

I I'm a, I'm a chill towards the back.

Um, keep me, uh, give me a little bit of leg room as it, as it were.

But I've been with a lot of people who were like, that's it.

All right.

It's like a war movie or something like, all right, here we go.

No charge.

Yeah.

No way, man.

I'm not doing that.

Yeah.

Storm the beach.

And you know what?

They're the worst once they get up front.

They're the ones who want to put elbows out and turn around.

What are you trying to bustle up?

You know, I don't even know because I've rarely been in that mess.

Even at my youngest and at my most inconsiderate, I still didn't like that life.

I have never, I've only been in the pit at the what stage one single time, one time in

22 or 21, whatever it is years.

And that was for catfish in the bottle men at one o'clock on a Saturday.

Cause nobody else, I think I can do this.

I think I can get in.

I was like, boy, this is awesome down here.

I've never been because I, I don't know.

It just never been.

That's me.

It's just so different to me to be able.

It's almost status symbol like with a lot of people.

I ride the rails, the rail ride, the rail ride.

Yeah.

You hear that a lot.

Are you kidding me?

Every year, Daniel tries to get me to go up on the rail with some show with him.

And I'm like, I'm good.

I'm good to hang back.

Yeah.

It's like, that's, that's a big commitment.

First of all, cause you got to stand there for hours and then, yeah, muscle your way

to the front.

And I'd rather just have a beer and chill in the back.

Let's also get a little honest.

I was such a drunk.

I could, I had to get another beer.

I couldn't go to the rail and wait.

I had to go get a drink.

Yeah.

They don't serve drinks on the rail.

No, they don't come to you when you're up there fighting the crowd.

When I was about 19 or 20, Simon and Garfunkel came to Grant Field in Atlanta, right?

They done the central park show.

And then they did like two or three others around the country and a girlfriend and her

little sister and I went and they were those two.

They were that type.

We got there early, walked down onto the field and all these people had gotten there and

laid their blankets out.

And I'm not kidding, kidding.

Janice found about this much space that didn't have a blanket on it.

And the three of us stood there for a half hour while people just called us everything

you can imagine.

Cause they'd gotten there early and got their space and I hated it.

Yeah, there's a lot of territorial issues there.

That's another reason I guess.

I don't, you know, you don't own this.

Neither do I.

Right.

Where's the right away here?

I think my, I think subconsciously once upon a time just realized that's not a life that

I want to live in.

I'm trying to battle that kind of stuff.

I guess just as we're talking that memory came back and that's probably why I don't

do that.

I hated that then.

But once this concert started, everybody stood up and it was great and we never had any more

issues cause we moved even closer.

But that's just not me.

Yeah.

I'm not, I'm certainly not one to be shy to get closer once a show starts and move around

certainly.

But being, being on a rail, being up close and being in the pit is never been that important

to me, especially if it takes a lot of work to do it.

Like this is already a lot of work.

I'm already working my ass off this weekend.

I don't mean work work.

I just mean just trying to get through every single day.

And now I got a battle to maybe be, nah.

See y'all let me know how it went and I'm sure I'll have just as good a time as you.

And there is a certain level of the ignorance is bliss thing.

There's a certain level of if you just don't know what you're missing, that's fine.

There's some things and I've used that at Bonnaroo with different levels of access that

some of you have even had way more than me and many of our others co-founder of this

show, asshole Brad Steiner, who just got to have everything.

Man, he's got to be Mick Jagger.

Oh yeah, he's got to be up front.

If he's not Mick Jagger status and he ain't doing it and it's like, man, you're killing

me dude.

See you later.

I promise you have just as much fun today.

And part of that is I've never allowed myself to, or well, maybe even allowed is the wrong

word, but I've never let the opportunity come to fruition to be able to do a lot of things

that I probably could have, but I don't know what I'm missing.

Yeah, I'm good with it.

I've never stood on the what stage.

People find that to be strange actually, because most everybody I know has been up there at

some point for a show and I've stood on it in the off season.

But I've had opportunities.

I'm not going to remember who it was.

Brad would kill it.

To this day, he's still mad at me.

He had me on the stage.

It wasn't coin.

It was somebody else.

And he had me on the stage for them on the what.

And I was like, I don't know, man, I'm a little tired.

You know, when my daughter was working for AC, she called one Sunday and said, I've got

you in the pit for Tom Petty.

And I said, great.

And I sat down in a chair and called her an hour later and said, I'm going home.

I'm tired.

I'm done.

And I mean, that was a good call.

There was no way I was going to make it till that late and then stand for 90 minutes.

But anyway, that's here.

They're there.

All right.

Well, this was fun.

We all have these stories.

The other thing I want to say, and this stunned me, the people that I work with now, I made

the comment I was talking about somebody that I'd interviewed or something.

And every one of them said, I don't think I've ever met anybody famous.

And I was like, how does that even happen?

I mean, we all stumbled across somebody at some point, right?

You would think on accident.

And when I was, you know, we just throw some notes out there before we go to do recording.

We're never exactly sure what we're going to do.

And I was I was going through my head list and maybe actual real paper list and are online

anyway.

And I haven't met a whole lot either.

I haven't been around.

I've been around a lot of mid to lower level and celebrity wouldn't be the right word.

Just notable people like a Timothy Miller yesterday.

Well, I mean, Isbell.

Yeah.

Well, is well, but nobody knew who he was.

That's my only like claim to any famous person of being around was Jason Isbell back in drunken

days 20 years ago when he'd come to Chattanooga and we had mutual friends and we'd all get

drunk at the bar.

I could have been anybody else in the world.

Right.

I'd rather have that moment.

It's a better story than I stood at a table and got an autograph.

And I asked him how, you know, the show going Augusta last night or something.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I have a few of those and really any, you know, the thing about Bonnaroo as far as running

into people, you can do that everywhere.

Like I've run into Mike Gordon, the bass player for Fish out in the middle of the field when

Fish wasn't playing.

I mean, he was probably playing with somebody, but Fish wasn't there.

And so they, if you remember the Mumford and Sons video from about five, six, seven years

ago, right when they went electric, they plugged up and they had that kind of rock album and

they made a video.

They were dressed up in like chicken outfits and big onesies.

Right, right, right.

You know, that Russ wears all the time.

And they're running around Centeroo and they filmed a video doing it and nobody knew it

was the biggest band in the world at the time, Mumford and Sons.

And so at Bonnaroo, you never know when there's just somebody hanging around that's, that

might be the lead singer band of horses or it might be a fentanyl dealer in Lagrado,

Texas.

It's just a wild place.

You never know what you're going to run into.

Yeah.

Bringing Mike Doerr back up again, you know, not to be jaded, but you know, I'd done all

these interviews for the paper.

I never have been a fan boy.

I've never been impressed by anybody.

I mean, it beats digging a ditch, but it never has made me, it's not why I did it.

But they always have press conferences back in media, as you guys both know.

And the one year they had Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Daniel Lanois, Richie Ferre, Stephen Stills.

Was it Ben from Ben and Jerry or Jerry from Ben and Jerry?

It was one of them and they were giving out ice cream.

It was a 48 ice cream.

Giving out ice cream and bandanas, which I have.

And I knew you guys a little bit.

Yeah, that was about a decade or more ago, 12 years ago, maybe.

I turned around to Doerr and he's like, that's Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

We talked afterwards.

He's like, that's one of the iconic figures of the 20th century.

And it really hit me between the eyes.

I'm like, he's right.

You know?

And that's kind of the May Pang thing last week for me was that's music history right

there.

That's interesting you bring it up that way because me and Mike, I mean, I'd known Mike

a long time since I was a real young kid, early 20s in his clubs, going to shows.

I knew him professionally.

We talked all the time.

We just got to know him slowly over 20 years.

And that weekend, I want to say that was 2011 probably, with Jabbar because he was pushing

a movie and then Stills and Ferre.

Yeah, it was 11 because Stills and Ferre were there with Neil Young to do Buffalo Springfield.

And me and Mike, and Mike's a big sports guy.

And at that time in our camp, we, at least in the moment of this conversation, were really

the only sports guys around.

And so we're talking about things and it was like, we caught wind that Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,

like I'm not a Lakers guy.

I'm not an NBA guy.

I'm not a...

I'm a Celtics guy.

I don't care about any of this stuff.

But yeah, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is an important person.

Forget about the basketball.

An important person.

And this, like we were like, day's canceled.

Me and Mike hung out there like, okay, well, we'll just wait here until Kareem gets here.

And Daniel Anwar, then YouTube, I mean, Steven Stills.

And we were standing right, and I'm a big Stills, Buffalo, all Neil Young, all these

Buffalo Springfield, all those old 60s bands.

You remember then when it was over, Daniel Anwar stood up and said, wait, wait, wait,

I got a question.

He said, Richie, for what it's worth, that's the best title you could come up with?

I do remember that.

And he said, it's better than there's a man with a gun over there.

Yeah, it's funny.

I do remember that.

I was about to say, he's going to say something I don't remember.

And I do remember that.

And Ferre was a dork.

He had, he was just an old guy just soaking it up.

Like he was great.

He was just like a, he had a smile.

He was like a little kid.

Steven Stills, who's more of the rock star, you know, over the course of decades was much

more buttoned up and just kind of another day at the office.

You could tell Richie Ferre was like, this is wild, man.

And he's probably been asked to play a big show in a while.

So that was probably a big gig for him.

It was pretty cool.

Ross, we've been talking over you, man.

Who's the, who's the, who's your tongue tied celebrity?

I don't really have many or probably none at all.

I can't really think of many that I've, well, yeah, yeah.

Obviously Barry and yeah, and Brian, you know, Brad, Brad, I get tongue tied.

Yeah.

New York's radio is Brad Steiner.

Yeah.

All right.

So we've got a little, little bit of the news.

Oh, okay.

Go ahead.

Nevermind.

I did it again.

I'm talking over you.

What do you got?

I remember the first moon river that was in Chattanooga.

Lizzie was playing and she's one of my favorites and we were hanging out in the media.

And I think we had just done an interview with somebody back then and she was off to

the side, just kind of chilling.

I think she'd just come off her set and I was like, I should go up and say something

to her.

And I never did.

And that's the one I regret.

Just, you know, not just saying anything.

I didn't have anything to say, but just, you know, when you probably shouldn't have.

Yeah.

I mean, you're probably right.

I would have probably, you know, made an ass of myself or something.

And that's where I've been countless times at these festivals so many times.

I mean, I was standing right next to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

I didn't say a word.

I mean, because that was not a position.

That was... you evaluate the situation you're in.

And generally, I always go to the just, you know, you're supposed to be here as much as

they are.

Now that's, I don't know, let's not get too far ahead of what I'm trying to say here.

I'm just saying.

Well, last year...

We're all in spaces we're supposed to be.

Let's act like it.

And that's kind of how you're supposed to.

Last year, Cheryl Crow, you know, she did a big press thing in the media tent.

And we, you know, it was like, we got to go in to see Cheryl Crow.

I mean, we weren't going to talk to her, but just to be in the same room, it's like, well,

you know, might as well.

It was everything I could do to not talk to her because she would be impersonable and

hanging around too.

And she is, I mean, she's been there a few years now and she is welcoming as welcoming

gets.

She is also a kind of a dork.

It would appear with this.

She loves it.

She really soaks it all up.

And it was everything I could do to not go talk to her because I was like, I love you.

Yeah.

See what you did there.

She really soaks it up.

Soaks up the sun, baby.

Soaks up the sun.

I didn't even mean to do it.

I see what you did.

I didn't mean to.

Pretty smart.

Didn't mean to.

So we went, I forgot about it, early in my career, one of my coworkers, we went to the

sports super show in Atlanta at the convention center.

Place is huge.

Every Jordan was there.

Everybody was there selling memorabilia.

We went for two days, got a hotel room, everything.

It was a nightmare for me.

Again, it was standing in line to get an autograph for somebody who's never going to know me.

And we're about to leave and Dave Cowans walks in and he's at a counter.

And I said, Stump, I'm a Celtics guy.

I love Dave Cowans.

I love Havlicek.

He's like, I don't think so.

I got to go ask.

And I go ask him for an autograph and he leans over and he's, I said, do you mind if, you

know, signing this book or whatever.

And he said, why would I do that?

And I was like, okay, asshole.

Thanks.

Turned around, walked away.

I mean, that's the risk you run to.

And you know, what is the saying, the popular trendy saying, never meet your heroes?

Yep.

There's certain truth to that.

If you get a chance to meet your hero, still do, I think.

But there is a certain level of, because you never, man, I watch these ballplayers, I watch

a lot of sports, a lot of baseball, and I go to a lot of games and I watch these guys.

And I think about back when I was a kid, and this could be musicians, actors, anything.

And you got to stop interacting and signing and taking pictures and smiling.

You got to stop.

You can't do it forever.

And as soon as you stop, the people who didn't get anything are likely going to hate you.

Right?

That's so wrong.

I used to do that all the time.

Oh, I'll tell you, I used to run around the Ingalls Stadium here locally in AA baseball

in town, and I'd get all, Chipper Jones, name him, there was a bunch coming through back

in the day, Alex Rodriguez, big stars in the Major League Baseball.

And I could tell you, I could tell you who the cool guys are in the Southern League.

Well, based on your dumb ass at 14, 15 years old, character profiling, because you got

an autograph or not.

Right.

And you know, let's do that kind of stuff.

Sure.

And that's difficult.

You know, that's difficult.

Plus, those guys now know that the 14 year old might be harvesting.

He's getting 10 of them signed so that his dad can go sell them for whatever.

That turned into a big thing in the sports memorabilia thing for a while.

Yeah, I'm not all into it.

The ones that mean something to me are the ones where, you know, I felt like had some

sort of connection.

So I am, I am this is equally annoying to get a picture with.

I like because I do collect that you can kind of see my wall of fame.

I like I mean, that does mean something to me.

I don't want your autograph unless it says like, hey, Brian, I think you're cool or something

like that.

Like, which is never going to happen.

Nobody's ever going to write that.

No, of course not.

But I do like to do that.

And I really if I do that, I'm you know, I'm always like, this is totally not cool, but

I'm going to do it anyway.

And usually it is cool.

Like normally it is.

I think I have three.

I could keep we could do this all night.

I'm thinking of all these moments.

Went to Atlanta for what's the Oprah Winfrey movie?

The slavery.

Oh my God, it was horrible.

Oh, color purple.

No, after the one she produced, I'll think of it.

I'm not a movie guy.

I'm not going to remember.

I know there was one though.

I know there was one.

Oh, it's over there.

Anyway, so it's just like in the movie Notting Hill.

You know, you'll have six or seven reporters and they will rotate around.

You'll get the actors and the producer and the director.

And anyway, we walk into this hotel room down at the Four Seasons and Oprah's sitting on

the couch and it's like, where's everybody going to sit?

And I'm like, I'm sitting on that couch next to Oprah.

And that's where I sat.

And that was cool.

That was one of those where like, yeah, you know, I get I get to do that.

That's pretty cool.

But mostly I'm usually that guy that's sort of, hey, man, it's not that big a deal.

Like you were saying, Brian, earlier about being professional, you never ask for autographs.

No, that's a big thing in the sports world, too.

Like you don't you don't wear the gear.

You don't ask for autographs.

You don't try to get something for your cousins or your brothers or your your your little

boy or daughter or anything like that.

People break that rule all the time.

Well, yeah, apparently if the star is big enough, even the pros will break.

Yeah.

So in this room, some of the guys started saying, do you mind?

And then you're rude, you know, like if there's seven of you in there and you're like, I don't

want your autograph.

So yeah, I got hers.

And my other favorite was the Arthur Miller was doing a junket with Daniel Day Lewis and

when the writer was it, oh, wow, OK.

What was the movie about the Salem witch trials?

Miller's book.

I'm having memory.

I'm the wrong guy on movies.

I think of that one too.

Beloved was the Oprah movie.

Brutal, brutal movie.

But Arthur Miller.

So I got at this table with literally some guy who looked like the the Simpsons character

who owned the comic book store.

Right.

Come on.

He had his worn copy of the book and he sat there with it like this and he was like, I

much prefer the John Paul Sartre's version to even this one.

And gag me.

Yeah.

And so they bring in the producer and everybody and he's asking them, what do you think of

the Sartre version?

And we're like, really?

Really?

These guys just released a movie.

And Miller comes in last and he sits down.

He's got his elbows on the table.

He's looking like this.

And the guy is to his right and says, what did you think of the Sartre?

And Miller said, I thought it was shit.

And we were all like, yes.

Get out of your pretentious douchebag.

Exactly.

Pompous.

Anyway.

All right.

Let's do some news real quick.

Festival came out with a fairly lengthy observation, I guess we would call it.

Yeah.

Just on Monday, just random stuff from that account.

I always keep an eye on it.

And I guess it was probably started from somewhere else of a thread.

I'm trying to pull it up now.

But basically just saying people are buying tickets to these festivals in advance.

And a lot of these relied on that.

And that, well, most promoters relied on early sales tickets.

That's as old as the concert industry.

But more and more that's becoming a thing.

And it's a lot of these pauses and these different terminology.

We've had a half episode talking about the terminology of it.

Basically, we're calling it quits.

We're pulling the plug or we're canceling or moving.

Panic.

Perfect.

And a lot of that has to do with we're about to lose our shirt because we're not selling

any tickets.

And usually you don't have a big push in the last month.

I mean, that's just not how it usually works.

Right.

Yeah.

They know what their nut is, as they call it.

They know what their break even point is.

And when they don't hit that with pre-sales or get close to it, it makes them nervous.

And it's interesting when you sent that to me, Brian, I was like, you know, we here on

this show basically reported the same.

I mean, that's why quite honestly, Bonnaroo announced they weren't going to do single

day tickets and then reversed that pretty shortly after.

And from what I've been told, it has made a difference.

It has helped them hit that nut more or less, but not every festival has done it.

So yeah.

Yeah.

And while ticket prices are just, you know, absolutely skyrocketing, I looked at, we'll

get to Southstar here in a minute.

I looked at a couple outside the or outside lands in San Francisco, which, you know, different

world out there, but they announced their lineup in the last week or two.

And it's, you know, it's nothing to get too excited about.

It's fine.

Just like most all of them, five, six, seven hundred dollars.

I mean, by the time it's all said and done, once you pay to park, once you pay to buy

your tickets starting around five hundred dollars.

I mean, when does this become a real problem?

The dollars and cents of it, you know, when, when do we can turn this into a economic discussion

if you want to have just overall inflation to to the festival, which we want the festival

world when does it?

You know, I don't have any more dollars, Bonnaroo or outside lands or Southstar.

What's only a hundred dollars more.

I don't have a hundred dollars.

When does that number hit?

When is that threshold?

And I think maybe it's hitting, maybe it's happening.

And people are realizing these aren't that exciting or that special a moments.

Now, Bonnaroo, I think we'll all agree and we're biased, a little bit different.

There is a specialness to it.

There is a magic to it.

I buy into all that and I always have.

Tell me outside lands.

Oh, the or the exciting nature of outside.

Shut up.

Is it a good festival?

Yes.

Then you're going to go.

If it's not, then you won't.

Bonnaroo is a little different, but it's still the same concept.

When is a few more dollars just too many more?

Well, first of all, Arthur Miller's play was the crucible.

There you go.

I know it would come up.

Well, I'd help with Google, but I knew I'd get it.

I think it's a couple of things, Ryan, and it's what we've talked about before because

it's what I've heard from the people putting on these festivals.

They're a little more concerned than just that economics.

In theory, you can work around.

They'll find ways to cut corners here and there, or they'll find ways to make the,

you know, add more value in theory.

What concerns them is just a shift in taste that a newer, younger audience, whatever,

this isn't what they want to do.

They want to do something else.

They maybe don't want to go stand in a field or a parking lot for eight hours a day to

see band after band.

Well, even if they do want to see it, they don't want to spend 500 or more, you know,

to do it.

So it's combined, combined it all, but it's a shift in taste that I think has the industry

people more worried than necessarily the economics.

Though the economics are scary too, our own Moon River, you know, can basically confirm.

It hit the pause button because 12,000 people isn't enough, and that's what that space

holds.

They need 15,000.

So they're trying to find a space that's still downtown Chattanooga.

You know, there aren't a lot of those, so it's a little bit of everything.

Yeah.

It happens as far as shift in taste and shift in trends and fads.

And this festival thing is kind of, it's come and gone over the generations, but it's still

always been something that the youth tend to really be alert to.

Going back to, you know, Woodstock kind of set the 1969 original festivals kind of set

the tone for the next 50 to 60 years as far as kind of creating that movie really did

it.

The motion picture that kind of financially saved anybody who had any skin left in that

game.

It kind of created something over the next 50 years and maybe that's starting to wear

off into this, into this century.

Which rolls around to South Star, which is the complete opposite story where you've got

a bear and some city leaders in Huntsville, Alabama, of all places, which, you know, perception

wise for people who hear a name with Ville at the end of it in Alabama, that's what people

used to think.

Yeah, they don't say Huntsville probably.

It's more Huntsville.

Huntsville and that's where NASA is.

It's the outlier.

Yeah, it's the outlier of Alabama.

It's a pretty good place and they are committed to bringing a festival to that part of town.

And it kind of, to hear our friend Daniel from Real Roo Bus talk about it, Huntsville

is a lot going for it, but where they're putting this is basically a park.

There's not a lot around it.

You're not going to walk, you know, like here in Chattanooga where you leave the grounds,

you've got shops and restaurants and bridges and downtown and all of that.

So a little bit of an outlier in that regard, but they are, they want it badly.

C3 and Live Nation was willing to work with them.

The lineup came out Tuesday.

I'm going, I'm going because it's close and I also like the lineup.

I mean, anytime I get to see back for me, that's pretty cool.

Yeah.

I mean, you've been to Huntsville some Russ, right?

You've been down there a little bit.

I mean, I've never been to that city as an adult, so I don't know the first thing about

it and I didn't, don't know a thing about this John Hunt Park.

We find that to be based on what Daniel's telling us and what you know.

I've never been to that park.

Yeah, I've never been to that park, but I've been to Huntsville and yeah, it is really

neat.

I mean, this is not, you're not going to rural Alabama.

This is a really pretty much a high end upscale city.

Bigger than Chattanooga now.

Bigger than Chattanooga.

Yeah.

And you know, I think it's great.

You know, we'll see how the festival does there, but I'm excited to go to Huntsville.

Yeah.

Ticket prices are not that bad to start there.

They're under $300 to start.

I'm sure that's on a tiered thing and that's a pretty good start.

I don't know about camping, that doesn't look to be a thing here.

No camping.

Maybe it is.

I think it's just a city festival.

But I mean, we talked about it last week.

The worst kept secret was Blink 182.

Anybody, that wasn't even, it wasn't even a secret at all.

And then the talk was it was going to be 90s, early 2000s and that was absolutely exactly

what we got here.

Because anecdotally, just to me personally, they hit all the bands I don't like from that

era or that I don't like as much.

And the big exception, the big, big exception is that Saturday, Jane's Addiction.

And I have never seen Jane's Addiction and this is the time and place to do it.

That day also, like, you know, Candlebox, Jen Blossoms, Jimmy World.

I mean, I don't need any of that, but that's right for me.

It's, Stevonnie Gwynn is the headliner and Beck, Goo Goo Dolls.

Winona Fighter would be good.

Yeah.

Only familiar with that from you guys talking about that act.

And Pete Yorn is sneaky good.

If you like, you know, a little bit less electricity in your music, that'll be, I mean, it's a

great lineup.

It's a really nice little short two day weekend lineup.

I like it a lot.

Stand in a field and sing along to a bunch of songs you're going to recognize.

Yeah.

Plus, plus big boy.

Sometimes.

Yeah.

Big boy did Riverbend last year and that was a good show.

I think everybody loved that.

One of the best ones.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Ludacris.

We'll be there.

We've already all applied for our media.

We get to see our old friend from Moon River, friend from Moon River.

So yeah, this is not a Bourbon and Beyond promise that we were.

Remember, we're all going to that and I don't think any of us are going to that.

This is not one of those, but I will say I'll probably just pull a Saturday on that one,

but that's going to be a great Saturday.

I mean, TLC for crying out loud.

I mean, I know one of them has been gone for a long time.

Left.

I would just be TC, right?

T yeah.

Just, yeah, it would be just TC left.

I would.

That's how I think that's how that rolls.

But I mean, that'll be, it'll be a, it'll be a nineties dance party.

Yep.

That'd be great.

Juvenile.

Geez.

I mean, it just keeps going.

So, uh, yeah.

James Addiction is my big selling point on that Saturday.

I always get Jane Blossom's mixed up with the wallflowers and I'm still not sure that

those are two different bands.

They are very much two different bands.

Very, very, very, very much.

And I've been a fan of both at different periods of my life, less and more at certain times.

And I would watch either one of them play at any given time.

All right, so that's mostly what I wanted to get to today.

A little bit of business.

We've gotten a couple of three or four phone calls, which we asked for last week.

Oh yeah.

We got a bunch of junk to give away.

I actually started real quick guys.

I started looking through cause we were, we're going to try to put together a cool prize

pack and to super fans, you'll love it.

Uh, I mean, certainly, I don't know what it's going to be yet, but it'll be, and I started

looking around.

It's like, that could be nice, except I still want that.

I want that.

Hold on.

That's pretty good.

No, no, no, no, no.

I like that.

And so I have so far not found a single thing.

Cause it's like, Oh yeah, I forgot I had this.

I want this now.

It's like a mom trying to get her to, you know, a kid to clean up their room.

Wait, no, I want that.

You know what I should do?

Didn't even know you had it.

I should reach out to the folks up in Knoxville and say, I know y'all got a basement full

of stuff you want to get rid of.

They've got the real goods.

Send it to me.

They've got the real goods.

And I know they got multiples and they'd love to get rid of.

We'll figure something out.

So call a four, two, three, six, six, seven, seven, eight, seven, seven, ask us a question,

make a comment, give us your best tip.

We're going to go over those.

Cause I don't know if you realize.

Yes, we'll get into May here.

Yeah.

We've only got like six more episodes.

Not a lot.

We got our own picks.

We got to do, we got to do our do's and don'ts.

And we're going to be on the farm.

So we're running out of days and time flies and I'm looking forward to it.

I've spent a great year for me so far.

I've loved it and I'm loving it more and more.

And I cannot wait for June.

We'll be here for you.

No, it's saying, yeah, call soon.

Give us a call.

And don't get us early.

We were talking about the ticket sales and whatever.

I'm more excited about this year than I have been in forever.

I'm already starting to looking equipment to buy and whatever.

I don't know why.

Me too.

I am so.

There's a few acts on this one this year, talking about a rue that like, you know, Chapelle

Ronde or Chapelle Ronde, still can't get the name right.

Renee Rapp, some of these ones we found out from you guys through our roulettes and the

calls and all that.

And it's like, the more I look at them, it's still, it's never going to be something.

I'm not going to sit at home and spend a Saturday, you know, cleaning the litter box, listening

to it.

But I can't wait to hear what it sounds like, you know, on the farm.

So there's so many of those.

And that's what I got a lot of excitement for.

The headliners, you know, still don't really care about this year.

But so much of it below I do.

All right.

There's plenty to make up for.

Anything, Ross, we missing anything?

I think we hit it all.

Yeah.

We got some shows coming up.

We're going to do your picks, my picks, Brian's picks.

And if you, you know, if you, if you go and you and you see one of us and you're worried

about, you know, interrupting a celebrity, come up and say hi.

We don't care.

That's that.

I mean, the kidding, not kidding.

Absolutely.

I love talking to people that are that are that enjoy things that we and I do.

I really do enjoy that because there is a lot of like, it's just microphone on.

Can anybody hear this?

You know, there's still a lot of frustration in this world sometimes, especially with the

oversaturation of it.

And when someone does say, man, I enjoy, you know, anything, you know, whatever it is,

you know, even if it's not this, I do, I do take a lot of pride in that.

So yeah, come on.

Well, it's such a special shared experience.

That's that.

Well, that's even more true.

And then of course, you know, the, the, the leader of all this old taco over here who

had the whole damn Wednesday following around on the farm last year, like this guy, man,

you know, so absolutely.

Yeah, we'll have stickers to give away if you see us.

And so please say hi.

All right.

See you guys.

Good show.

Yeah.

See you next week.

See you later.