This week Brad Steiner and Barry Courter welcome Rob and Dave from The Revivalists! They chat about how it all started, the first time they ever played Bonnaroo, progress on the new album, and maybe some surprises along the way! Plus, details on how you can win Bonnaroo tickets with camping passes!
Topics: Bonnaroo, The Revivalists
Guests: Rob Ingraham, David Shaw
Hey, hey, hey, hey! How y'all feeling? Journey through the stories that define the artist's plain Bonnaroo. Who are they? What are they? What will you see? The what? Which bands? This year? That matter? With Brad Steiner and Barry Courter. Barry Courter is hula hooping as we speak. Exactly. Yeah. It just puts you in the Bonnaroo spirit, doesn't it? I'm that guy out in front of the tax office on the street. The wind. The wind. Arms. That crazy, you know, windy plastic man that's flowing in the breeze. Welcome to the What Podcast. That's Barry Courter. I'm Brad Steiner. And today we're talking to the revivalist because you asked for it. That's exactly right. Because you asked for it. We had a nice conversation in week four, Brad. Yeah. And speaking of because you asked and I know you'll love this, but I got a call this morning at about eight o'clock, which meant it was five o'clock his time from our friend, Dennis Haskins, Mr. Belding. Mr. Belding from Saved by the Bell. From Saved by the Bell called and in the course of our conversation, he said he went and saw Bozzi last night. Oh, did he? Okay. Another one of our guests in an upcoming episode. Upcoming podcast episode, sure. Yeah. He said he was great and it's a great live show. Well, it's great live shows. We keep finding the artists over and over and over that put on a great live show and revivalist pretty much made their name being a great live band. There's just a different feeling at least for me from the albums to the live show. And it's that live show that made everybody or at least our listeners reach out to us and say, get the revivalist, get the revivalist because that live show is just unlike most others. Yeah, that's right. And what's neat about seeing a band like that at a Bonnaroo, My Morning Jacket comes to mind, what, four hours in the rain several years ago. To be honest, I had not heard of them. I was not a fan. I saw half of that show and became a massive fan. I only saw two hours. A Bonnaroo podcast for Bonnaroovians by Bonnaroovians. Barry Courter from the Chattanooga Times to Press. I'm Brad from Hits96 in Chattanooga, Tennessee. We got a chance to talk to the revivalist. Start playing that here in a second. Later on the podcast, ways in which you can interact with us. You can win Bonnaroo tickets with camping passes. And we've got an update on some giveaways that we've done over the past couple of weeks to you, the fine What Podcast listener. The reason I like talking to the revivalist is because they have that thread that goes right to the history of Bonnaroo. If we talked to Ashley Capps last week, he's just one half of where it started. The other half was the New Orleans culture. That part of it, if you didn't know much about Bonnaroo, you definitely feel it at the festival. There always seems to be something that is so New Orleans that happens on the grounds, whether it's trombone shorty showing up in every place or if it's the parade or if it's food. The name, the name itself. Bonnaroo is Creole or Cajun for a good time. Superfly which is now in New York with the co-founders along with Ashley are, I think they started in New Orleans. So that's why you have that feel. Alan Toussaint was always been there as well. Neville Brothers had like night or year after year after year, they kept showing up. Playing three, four shows a weekend. It definitely has that New Orleans kind of vibe and feel and always has and I guess always will. The revivalist, the star of this week's The What Podcast. This was our conversation with the revivalist just a few days ago. By now, I hope that everybody has heard the story of you guys because Jesus, you guys have told it a thousand times. Thank you. Right? But it takes on a whole new life when you consider that the last year and a half of you guys' life, there's no preparation for it. There's absolutely no way to sort of wrap your head around maybe what the last year and a half might have been and it is very almost storybook. Whether or not the beginnings of it exist or not, you guys sort of did, I feel like, old school way to go about a career. You get a bunch of friends together, you go on the road with them in a van, you eventually get a bus and then, oh my God, we might have a number one single on our hands and then your life changes and you're headlining Bonnaroo. You're one of the headliners of Bonnaroo. That can't seem to make much sense to you right now, huh? Our audience is our Bonnaroo fans, so we may be a little bit more in depth, but what is that like physically and emotionally to go from the van to suddenly, and you have to be so proud doing a morning show with Kathie Lee Gifford. That has to have been a high point. Oh yeah, that was great. What is that whole transformation like? Yeah, for me, sometimes I kind of try to compartmentalize it and not really... I still try to think about just like, man, I'm glad I'm getting paid anything to do any of this. That's certainly a thing. You're not working on a roof, that's for sure. Right, but physically for you guys, what are the things? Is the van bigger? The hotel room's nicer? People carrying stuff for you now? You still have to carry your own stuff? What changes? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Our lives have changed in pretty much every facet of it. To me, it was almost like you're kind of going up the... You know how you get on a roller coaster and you go up and you're about to go down the hill and you're right over the thing. You've got all this anticipation and you're right there at the hill. And then you go down and you still got a little bit of the woozies and you're like, oh, shit, we almost just had the time of your life. And you go around this curve and you're like, oh, shit, we almost fell out, but we made it. Not to be too cliche, but really a bit of a roller coaster ride. And we're still... Hotels have certainly changed. They've gotten a little nicer. Our bus has gotten bigger, I guess. Yeah, it went from van to bus. How does it change your songwriting approach? We sort of asked it earlier, the pressure is also not only got to be refreshing, but it's also got to be a little bit debilitating. Does it change the songwriting approach to you? I was actually talking about this to somebody the other day. And honestly, at this point in my life and where I'm at and we are at in our career, I'm happy with where we're at. So if we don't have another hit song and we just continue to do what we do, I'm cool. But I don't really... It doesn't feel like pressure to me. I'm not feeling pressure to write another hit song because I don't care if we have a hit. I'm just kind of like, whatever. I don't write music to write hits. It was never a thing. Our single was a song that was a true feeling. It was like, I really wish I had more time before I met my current girlfriend. I'm not going to say that I wasted time with other people because certainly not. It's all a part of our opinion. It's all a part of us growing as people. To say that in my feeling pressure to write that kind of stuff, it just feels like any other song. Can you go anywhere ever and not hear that song? No. It's in every supermarket, my mother sings it, it is just one of the big monster hits of the last three years. Yeah. I'm betting if we go out in the cars right now it's on and when we go home turn the TV it's gonna be on. Yeah, it's everywhere. It is a monster, monster hit and it's a song that surely changed lives. Yeah. Changed their lives. Changed their lives, changed, now the hotels are a little bit nicer, you know, people answer your phone calls, they return phone calls. We just need that hit Barry, we just need that one hit. I know man, I know. And of course the song changed over the course of the years as it got bigger and bigger and bigger, the song kept getting longer and longer. You're gonna hear it at Bonnaroo, it's gonna be probably nine minutes long but that's just part of the festival atmosphere. For you guys, the revivalists, are you guys big festival fans? Do you find yourself immersed in the festival culture? When I'm trying to discover new stuff, I mean you kind of can't do better than a festival, you know, it's like a musical buffet. Just being able to go like I've been exposed to so many things that I never would have heard of otherwise. Like at Voodoo Festival in 2004 when I was a freshman and it like just moved to New Orleans, we wandered into some random tent and I was like what is going on? There's like a shirtless Balkan man and two like washboard players in striped tights. It was Goggle Bordello. Holy crap. Pretty good. These guys are insane. Yeah, stuff like that. You just, you get, you can't get those moments really at another kind of thing. But for, as somebody, as an act, as somebody playing, I like every show. Has anybody told you anything about Bonnaroo? Do you have like a thought in your head as to what Bonnaroo is and what you might expect when you get there? So we have, we've played here. We played Bonnaroo. Did you? What year? Yeah, we played it in 2012 I think. Wow. Okay. Probably something like that. Well, long time ago before anyone even knew who the hell we all were for sure. But we played the one of the tent. I want to say it was the What's This tent or do you have a, what are the, what are some of the stage names? We did the solar stage and we did the tent at some point. Like we did, we did like two and a half shows, I think. Yeah, we did the tent that was across, directly across from, from the main stage. And so whoever ended there, you know, they ended and then as soon as they were done, it was Bjork. We went on. It was Bjork. Yeah. As soon as they were done, we went on and there was, you know, it was an okay amount of people in there. I think by the, you know, the third or fourth song, there was, you couldn't fit another person in. I just remember that show being one of those magical shows. That was one of the shows for me where, you know how you just, you know, it's like, there's an old saying, it's like, you know, the band does a thousand shows. Even a hundred of them are going to be okay. It's pretty good. Two hundred of them are going to be, damn, that was a fucking great show. Ninety of those shows are going to be like, oh my God, dude, that was, that was, that was, that was the show, you know? Nine of those are going to be like, that was, that was life changing. Those, that was life changing. And then there's going to be one show that makes you go do a thousand more. And that Bonnaroo show was that show. Wow. That happens, that happens a lot. We hear that a lot. And I think honestly, that's why Brad and I do this because we've had those moments. You know, we're both veterans of more than a dozen anyway, and we definitely have had those moments and you don't know when they're coming. You don't know. You don't know when they're coming. Boy, this is amazing. And see, this is, this goes to show you, even though Barry and I between the two of us have been to 27 Bonnaroo's, I just went back to the 2013 lineup, the 2013 lineup. You guys were on the last line. Oh, wow. Last line. 2013, okay. Last line of the 2013 Bonnaroo lineup. And now look at you. Wow. Wow. It's been a good couple of years. You guys know where you're playing at what time? Not offhand. Not offhand. Stomper right now. We're in the studio right now. That's like all I know. We go to Phoenix on Sunday. That's about as far into the future as I tend to be aware of. We've talked before about the fact that Bonnaroo does a good job of that. And it's fun for us as fans to see a band like you guys on a small stage one year, come back and you're on a huge stage the next year. What is that like for you guys as band members? Is it something you think about, you strive for? Yeah. Yeah. That's the dream, right? Did you spend a lot of time on the farm that weekend? And do you plan to do that when you're here? Will you have time to go maybe see other acts and hang out and play with other people? Our first time we did have a couple nights. Because also I think we played one night and then we had like a day show and then another. I think we had things for three days of the weekend. So we got a lot of good after night hangs. I love a festival that doesn't stop after the headliner. That's one of my favorite moves when it's like, all right, Paul McCartney or whoever's done now come to this tent and watch this guy play a violin and a tuba over a DJ beat or something until five in the morning. Exactly. To me, that's like when festivals get real. Right. So that's something I love about Bonnaroo. I think we're going to have maybe a night or two to explore. But then the day after we got to get out or something. The revivalist, the star of this week's show, because you asked for it and because they're so ingrained in New Orleans culture, being from New Orleans, the way that they met, the way that they have grown, the way that this band has taken on a insane reputation for their live show and the crowds that they bring. This is going to be one of the big ones. I'm going to guess on the which stage, Friday sometime mid afternoon, late afternoon probably. Yeah, based on the reaction that we've gotten, I say they definitely will be one of the biggest ones and just listening to that last song, they're a perfect Bonnaroo type of act. Yeah, they are. And it's going to go in a lot of different directions. Got such a voice that can go with anything. That's why he traveled with Galactic and was one of the traveling lead singers for that band. His voice can get soulful. It can get almost Rage Against the Machine like, by the way, they cover Rage Against the Machine in their live show. The crowds just respond to them in different ways than just a normal rock show. It's funny. I don't know if you're the same as I am, but I can hear certain songs and they are one of those bands and I can just picture midnight on the farm with the lights and the stage. And that's how I hear it. Right. It could work in the mid afternoon. It could work at midnight. No matter what place you put them, they're going to fit. Yeah. It's just a different kind of vibe than seeing them in a theater or an arena or something. And I wonder if they take that vibe and they bring it to the studio for their new album. What a segue because that's what we asked them. This is the revivalist on the What Podcast. So you're writing stuff now. How's it going? Pretty great. Do you guys have it ready to go when you walk in the studio or are you just sort of like piecemeal it together when you get there? I've always wondered. We were doing Sergel Simpson on our podcast last week and Sergel wrote this album, A Sailor's Guide to Life. And he had it all written and ready to go. And once he walked in the studio, he was done in four days. That's a little bit more streamlined than we are, I think. We've got like seven, I guess, kind of eight people now. We're all kind of all over the place in terms of what we want in terms of vision and how we kind of piece things together. This has been easier. This has been a little bit quicker than normal. We came in with a lot of stuff pretty well worked up. And we've been working with a guy named Dave Cobb. Yeah, I know Dave. He did the Sergel Simpson. Yeah, he did Sergel. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was funny. I actually was watching the Grammys with my wife and when Chris Stapleton won the record and he came up with it, it was like, oh, that's that guy we're going to be working with in a month. That's right. That's exactly right. You know, the guys that straddle the line between country and rock, boy, it's Dave Cobb, the guy you call. Yeah. I mean, he's remarkable too, just in terms of like ideas just kind of come out of him like a faucet. It's crazy. It's been really cool to work with him because it's a lot. It kind of cuts down a lot of the time that usually when we get in the studio, there's a lot more of like, okay, now we need to figure out like, should this be that or whatever, this thing? And he'll just come in and be like, okay, that, that, boom, boom, done. Track everything in one room, finger in the middle of the room. And it's just awesome. It's been sounding really great. Have you done the previous albums the same way? No, normally this has actually been a bit of an adjustment for us in terms of kind of how we, how we use the studio. Normally we get in and we have ideas how we go and kind of the producers we work with are more about kind of shaping what we're doing and basically just telling us when not to play. It's like telling who not to play at what point because there's a lot of us. That's usually, that's usually what we need more than anything. It's like, Hey, if you drop out in the verse here. So normally we'll kind of track a couple things together and then do a lot of overdubs. And this has been a lot more kind of live and performance and the take is the take, which is very exciting and maybe a little bit scary. But what we've been able to hear so far is it sounds like you're living dangerously a little bit. Oh yeah. On the edge, man. Like when you have eight people in the room, is everybody contributing ideas or is that become a little bit too many cooks in the kitchen? It can sometimes. I think for us at this point, we've been, we've been a unit for long enough that everybody kind of has an idea of what we're supposed to do or what's, what's generally our role or our part in kind of building up a song. It's been helpful having, having a guy like Cobb in there though, who's just like, Oh, you do this, you do that. And everybody's like, all right, sure. You're a genius. Okay. Yeah. Well, that was just scary to say it. You have to have a producer with a sort of strong will, don't you? Cause you guys have been together long enough. You have that sort of, uh, that, you know, you can speak to each other without having to add all the apologies. I think you're a great guy, but you know, that's, yeah, that's a good point. That's, that's something that takes a long time to develop and we definitely need somebody who is capable of telling us that we're all talking at the same time and we need to stop doing that. We have that same issue here. That's just life. And I don't mean to read tea leaves or try to, you know, go places that I probably shouldn't. But if, if Dave Cobb's working on it, are you guys adjusting the sound a little bit? Um, you know, that's kind of hard to say. I, uh, I think that's something that an outsider might have a better idea of that than I do. To me, everything we do just kind of feels like us. Okay. Maybe the overall aesthetic, not necessarily like the songwriting and the tones and stuff, but kind of Cobb's approach about more of kind of, we don't need to have so much polish and kind of, like I said, let the take be the take. I think that's, that's something that's a little different. So you get a new producer, you get back into the studio. How different is it from one to the next, from one album to the next, considering the success that you've had, how does this operation feel different if it does it all? So, I mean, it's been similar and different at the same time. Um, the things to me that were similar on Broadway, probably I'm sure would agree were the meat of the album is, um, has been us in the same room, just tracking everything together. I mean, I just remember just thinking back to last week, we cut two songs, uh, the song called, uh, Celebration and the song called Got Love. You know, we were kind of tracking them, you know, amps separated out in just different rooms and I was kind of in the booth and we were just like, all right, you know what, let's try something. He was like, Dave, Dave said this. He was like, let's take all the amps out of the, out of the booth. I want to get you in there in the room on a 57, you know, recording just like how Elvis did. We took all the amps out, put them in the room. I went in there with a, uh, with a 57 and we just kind of cut the song live like we would do it, you know, at a show or whatever to kind of like really, really truly capture some of that energy. Cause, uh, you know, there is something that to be said about, you know, when we're all actually in the same room and our answer in there and there's this bleed and there's just, you know, like a audio engineer's nightmare, but there is the magic that occurs there. It's something that we're always wary about because there's so many of us and there's so much stuff going on that we're always like, oh, but what about the isolation? What if this thing happens and then we can't do that? Then we just get the playback and it's like, everything sounds cool. And one thing I really like about Cobb is that a lot of times we'll be like last night, uh, Michael, our trumpet player and I were, uh, we were doing some horn stuff and at one point we were like, Hey, I think I might've been a little out of tune there or something. And Cobb's just like, cool. He's like, he's not trying to go back and fix it. He's like, that's real. That's, that's what makes it sound like a real performance. Right. So this is fascinating because you know, if you hear about Dave Cobb, this is a similar story that he's, that he has with a lot of artists and then he likes that sort of live feel in a recording session. What's strange though is that if you, you take all the comments that we've gotten from this show so far, it's all been, if there's been a common thread, get the revivalists, get the revivalists, get the revivalists. And it's probably because those people that are asking about you guys have seen the live show. I've seen the live show. It's a different experience than on the record. And I wonder if it was a conscious or a subconscious decision by you guys or management or whoever to get maybe the producer in Nashville that specializes in live recording sessions live. Yeah. You know, it was a little bit of that. I mean, there was a little bit of that, but like, I just, I think we all kind of knew that his aesthetic in doing that was definitely a thing. You know, we knew that for sure. To what extent that was going to, you know, we were going to utilize that. We had no idea just because we had just never really, you know, we've never like, I've never been, you know, I've always like in the isolate. Like we definitely cut stuff together. Like that's how we record. But like, yeah, you standing in the middle of the room with a live mic is crazy. Like that's terrifying. That's like a tight rope, you know? Yeah. I think that's also something that maybe I think we'd kind of been chasing that live feel on, on at least our last two records. But I think maybe it helps. It helps having a guy like Cobb, who's kind of like, he's going to push you off the, off the cliff, you know? Yeah. You're standing at the high dive and you're like, I don't know if I can do it. And he's like, yes, you can. There's a hand in the small of your back and I'm shoving you off. You guys are Thelma and he's Louise. You guys are going off the cliff together. That image of you standing uncomfortably in the center of the room. I mean, that's, that can be kind of a big deal. I wasn't comfortable. I was actually extremely comfortable. Yeah. Really. Yeah. That was kind of the point. It never even occurred to us to do this. And then it's just like, wow. The revivalist, the star of this week's the what podcast more with the guys coming up here in a minute, Barry, I think that what you wanted to jump into is how much pressure they're feeling about working on this new album, especially with a guy like Dave Cobb. And we'll get there here in a second. Plus a very interesting story from the road. Apparently I have a thing called a Ringo. Yeah. There's a Ringo problem with these guys. Yeah. Yeah. They were not a problem. They, uh, when they were recording, I don't remember if it was the last album or the previous one, but it was pretty intense session. And, uh, Rolling Stone had done an interview or a Beatles retrospective and it had a full page picture of Ringo. And, uh, one of the guys just kind of held it up in front of, uh, I think Dave's or maybe Rob's face just, and didn't say anything, just as kind of, you know, be there, be inspired or whatever. And so they've, they've turned that into sort of a running gag, uh, like you do with somebody leaves their phone on the table. You'll type something into their Facebook. Yeah. They're a bit more gentle than I, they're much more gentle. They don't have a problem with Ringo. They like Ringo very much. It's just become this kind of running, uh, things. Yeah. Well, the, uh, the What Podcast.com, the website, you can interact with this anytime that's going to get you in for tickets to Bonnaroo with camping access. Uh, I wanted to go through some of the emails that we've gotten because last week we asked for some fun Bonnaroo camping stories. You shared some of those and you got in for Bonnaroo tickets. This comes from Timothy. Two years ago, we arrived Wednesday afternoon for our sixth Bonnaroo and started setting up camp, opened up our trunk and found that the cooler had catastrophic failure, effectively soaking every item of clothing and camping gear we had over our 13 hour drive. Not a great way to start the vacation. They started setting things up, frustrated, struggling, they're tired, sweaty and pissed. Kind of the opposite of what Roo meant to them. This is what he says. Well, our kind neighbors could see the struggle stop by, asked us if they could help and basically took over our setup while lending us some dry threads and drink. Not the wildest story in the world, but it's the spirit of Bonnaroo complete strangers dropping everything they were doing to help their neighbors without any expectations. That's a damn good Bonnaroo camping story. That's a great camping story. And how many of those do you have? I mean, I think, I do, I have one of those every year when I show up, I drop myself out of the car and then I say, Barry, yeah, set that up. Denson. Uh, yeah, I remember the first year, maybe the second year I thought it'd be cool to kind of go by the, um, um, uh, lost and found tent and just see what sort of things are being turned in. Right. And there was a guy in front of me and just as I walked up, the clerk or the person or whatever gave him his wallet. He had lost it in the middle of, I think radio head. So imagine that crowd. He dropped his wallet in that crowd and not only did someone find it and take it to lost and found everything that was in it was still in it. No kidding. Yeah. And, uh, I've told people many, many times, I've never heard so much as a crossword at Bonnaroo. The vibe it's real. Um, you know, people, I would see people standing in line and then realize they needed to go get something. So they get out of line and they come back and they go to the back or the front, whichever you and the people that where they were in place, say, no, come on, you know, get back in and just that kind of thing. Um, it makes it, it makes it a lot of fun. You feel it. The moment you start checking in, there's just a different vibe. Uh, by the way, is there, I got a question for you. Are the horseback cops still around? Yes. Are they really? I haven't seen one in years. All I remember is, is one year, uh, being so, I guess, whacked out of my mind. I looked around like, I think I see horses, but I don't know if this is real or not. If they had stripes or they were purple, you might be really worried. We got this comment from John. I remember my first encounter with the horse security, my first year at Bonnaroo in 2008. I didn't have my glasses, couldn't read my map being stubborn. Like I am. I refused to ask for help. Just my luck. One of the horse security ladies could tell I was struggling and lost. She helped me find my campsite that night. I could have used her my first year because I walked for hours trying to find where I was. That camp out there is massive. Yeah. It's so big. People get lost all the time. Yeah. I want to thank everybody for sending their comments. I've tried to personally respond back to everybody and if I haven't, I will. Yeah, it means a lot to us. Just give me your personal cell phone number. Call me. Drop us a comment. Get in for Bonnaroo tickets. All you gotta do is comment on the podcast feedback, any type of feedback, positive, negative, we don't care. Post it now at the whatpodcast.com. It's going to get you in for Bonnaroo tickets. Back to the revivalist, the star of this week's The What Podcast. It's amazing to hear that you are so comfortable being back in the studio, even though Dave Cobb's asking you to do other things. Yeah. How much of that is because you guys have done it, the slow and steady... Do you think you might feel different if this had happened to your first album or first single? Yeah. I think it would be definitely a different thing. I certainly think so. Yeah. I think it helps a lot that because we built up that fan base and all of the support, one person at a time, one town at a time, one, six or seven or eight people sleeping on the floor of a single day's end at a time. I think it just really helps with the sustainability and the foundation of everything we've got. The hits come and go and that stuff could dry up in an instant, but we'll always still have a great community of people behind us and we'll always be able to tour and we'll always be able to have fun and we'll always be able to be the revivalists. To me, it's just like, that's how I sleep at night. That leads me to a good question about you guys being together. Who's the leader of the pack right now with the whole Ringo-ing thing? Who's got the best Ringo-ed? Phil, I think Chris Finney's still on top. Our former producer of a couple of our albums, engineer on a few of our records, guy who sent a student after me at the end of a tour in Atlanta, who's just like, hey, I thought she was going to take a selfie with me. She's like, this is a picture of Ringo on my phone. Yeah. I think the ball's at our court right now. I think we still need to, I got to get him back. When was that Rob? That was after the last show at the Tabernacle at the end of our last tour. Okay. Well he got you then because me and Zach were in Vegas over the summer and there was a nice little picture of old Ringo and I sent a, no, I actually FaceTimed him. It was a little FaceTime. And he was like, what is going on buddy? I was like, no, just, yeah, Zach is just out here, you know, hanging in Vegas and then boom, Ringo. That's pretty funny. Boom. We should tell people what we're talking about if they don't know. Anybody who leaves their Facebook page open or leaves their phone without the code, leaves it on the bar store, the bar top, somebody's going to get it and they're going to put something rude on it or whatever. You guys post pictures of Ringo to each other. So that's hilarious about the student bringing it. You guys are so much more kind than my friends because boy, I've been pregnant 15 times. I don't know. I see a natural fit. By now everyone knows you're from New Orleans. On the same night Trumbo and Shorty is playing Bonnaroo. So both of you guys are playing Friday night. I have a feeling that you guys might have something planned together. No comment. Okay. I'm not going to say that we don't, but I'm not going to say that we do. As of right now, I'll be honest, there's no talk of that. Okay. Well, I'm putting it in your ear. I'm dropping the hint. That's not to say, you know, that's not to say that it won't happen. I mean, I love Troy for sure. I love his music. I love his band. I'm best friends with his guitar player. Like we're great friends, you know, possibility. There you go. The revivalist to start this week's the what podcast. We appreciate you listening. Hey, follow along the what podcast.com or the what underscore podcast on Twitter. We're announcing next week's podcast in the upcoming days. Who will we talk to? What artists will we take a deep dive into? You'll find out the what underscore podcast on Twitter, Barry Courter. I'll see you next week. See you next week. You guys keep sending in those comments and suggestions. Yes. Thank you for your comments, your downloads, and thank you, Rob and Dave from the revivalist, the revivalist.com, the what podcast.com tickets to Bonnaroo available there. We'll talk to you next week. Thanks. Journey through the stories that define the artists playing Bonnaroo. Who are they? What are they? What will you see the what? Which bands this year that matter today? Brad Steiner and Barry Courter