Larkin Poe

Welcome to the podcast for Bonnaroovians by Bonnaroovians.

Welcome inside of our homes, buses and basements.

Barry Courter, Lord Taco, Brad Steiner.

Alongside today, Bonnaroovian David is going to join us from Patreon and Larkin Po.

Barry Courter.

Larkin Po, yeah, reached out to them and should stress this was way well before the whole COVID-19 virus pandemic.

So we don't talk about that.

Larkin Po, kind of Rebecca and Megan from down Calhoun, Georgia.

Just 45 minutes from Chattanooga or so.

We talk a little bit about this is their second visit to Bonnarooo.

They actually started.

It would have been.

Would have been.

We'll see if they can make it next year.

We're convinced.

I'm not giving up yet.

But Larkin Po, they started as the Lovell Sisters as a trio.

They're one of those groups that I've been able to follow since the inception and talk to.

So they were nice enough to reach out.

It's another one of these interviews that we did that I did without you, Brad.

And, you know, like you did at O'Brien last week.

So we're adapting.

We're figuring it out.

But so it was it.

Do you like Larkin Po and follow them because you just find them to be very attractive?

They are attractive.

They're also really good.

They were in last year and they're a rock and roll band.

They got a they can play.

OK, all right.

Well, quite a bit.

Well, I'm excited.

They've got a new song.

I keep digging.

Just came out this week.

OK, so all right.

Well, check that out here soon.

Then we'll talk to David from a Patreon.

But first, let's get in.

Patreon names.

That's sure.

You go ahead.

Yeah.

Is that what you were going to say?

That's not what I was going to say, but you know what?

I'm I'm here for you, buddy.

All right.

Mike Tyson Group, Aaron Carlson, Bill David Grimes, who we're going to talk to in the show.

Frank Swanson, Liesl Condor, Phil Hanley, Timothy Proctor and Chloe Hannon are in the Mike Tyson Group.

So I guess this was it this week or last week that we started to I guess it was this week that they want to reopen the economy.

Reopen the world in some parts of the in some parts of the country, the world being very, you know, generic.

But you've got a governor in Georgia who doesn't know that covid-19 is contagious.

You have a governor in Tennessee who thinks that everybody is going to rush to bars and restaurants because Lord knows, you know what I want right now is to eat at Chili's.

You've got bowling alleys.

You know, I mean, there's been some there's been some funny jokes and online memes, but you know, the one that resonates is doing this is like having a peeing and a non peeing section in a swimming pool.

You know, it makes it makes as much sense.

So yeah, we'll see.

And you might you I know you think that I'm being, you know, I don't know, a little bit too harsh, but it's not happening.

And I don't mean to to rain on people's parade and be negative here, but we need to start wrapping our heads around.

This is not happening. Voodoo Fest is is end of October in New Orleans and New Orleans does not shy away from parties.

Let me be totally frank with you. The people here treated this thing as if it was a hurricane and they were not going to react to it until it made landfall.

And at any moment it could it could swing and miss, but it made landfall and then it shut everything down for a while.

It if New Orleans is not going to throw a party at the end of October, I don't see anybody else in the country throwing a party any time in the fall.

And it sucks and it blows and it hurts. But, you know, I there's just nothing about it that makes sense.

I can't figure out a justification to put, you know, 50,000 people at risk.

I just can't figure it out. I can't I can't figure out the justification and what the argument would be.

Yeah. And again, I keep thinking about it.

It's like which event should it be? I mean, everybody wants to open, right?

So which one is it? College football? Is that more important than festivals or golf?

Whatever, you know, which one should it be? That's going to be sort of the test.

Yeah. And I think as we get closer to reality, the people that are making the decisions are having that same question.

You know, should it be us? Why? Let's wait and see what somebody else does.

So now I agree with you. I don't think it's happening either.

I think we're looking at next year. And then it's even going to be, you know, what's it going to look like?

You know, I don't think we I don't think a lot of people are just going to rush back into 2019 level of crowds.

I just I mean, some of the stories I've done, the restaurants, the health department, they're talking about restaurants maintaining the six foot thing and the social distancing long after this happens.

No more, you know, twelve tops of people sitting elbow to elbow with each other.

And that's just from their point of view, from like your point, you know, do you want to go to a bar that has that many people sitting next to you?

Yeah, there's a lot getting ready to happen that hasn't happened yet.

Yeah. And if you listen to this podcast, I'm betting your answer is going to be, of course, I don't care.

But think about it the day that think about it a Friday, Saturday at around four o'clock when it's really, really hot.

In Manchester, and you are somewhat in the midst of a show on The Witch and somebody sweaty bumps into you or wants to crowd surf.

You really want to touch a sweaty stranger?

You know, as much as or when you're saying that, and I don't mean to be disgusting, but I mean, one of the things we like is that three, four o'clock in the morning shower when there's nobody else in there.

I'm not sure I want to go into any of those showers.

Even if I'm by myself in there, I'm not sure that's going to be a good idea.

Yeah, I mean, it's just it. I don't know if we necessarily think about it all that much because it it's just like a unicorn in our brain.

It's Bonnarooo. It's life. It's experience. It's like, let's let's just go do something.

But then when we're actually doing it, really, like, for instance, every say you talk about how you leave the house once a week to do insert thing here.

Why leave once a week to go to a local brewery, urban south? I pick up beer for the week and then I pick up 10 pounds of crawfish at a place that has a crawfish boil and I bring it back.

And it's my Saturday tradition. I sit on the back porch and eat crawfish and I drink beer.

Just yesterday when I did this week, I for the first time, for the first time, I really felt like when he handed me the bag, it was the first time I was like, I don't I'm touching the bag that you're touching.

Yeah, that's a bag.

Nobody else is around me. You think that you want to, you know, be slinging spicy pies or, you know, empanadas around the house here.

And go for a walk once a day and people are also up there walking or jogging and they go on the complete other side of the street.

You know, yeah.

And these were theoretically healthy people. Yeah.

You don't even want to be next to two people on a street. I can't imagine.

Okay, so then if things start to normalize or get at least better and the trend starts to go in the right direction come August or September.

And then what happens if, you know, out of nowhere pops up 350 cases come the 1st of October or the end of September, then panic, total panic.

And and so let's say let's say you have a festival that you are putting on at the end of September or the middle of September and then something crazy happens.

You know, you feel like you're out in front of it in July and August and then all of a sudden September hits and then there's like 200 300 cases pop up in September.

You don't think that you have just invested how many millions of dollars and you're now looking at a week from now, two weeks from now.

It could be from 300 to 1000 and then you are screwed. Yeah.

I mean, it's just it's too dicey. It's just too dicey. Yeah.

And all the you know, the 2018 flu, the second wave was way worse than the first one.

So it concerns me that we're doing this reopening this week. I just it makes no sense.

Yeah. Especially when you have states that are just now getting to the beginning of their peak.

Like not I like the New Orleans, Louisiana is not even close to hitting that two week threshold of cases going down.

So they're not even close to being opening up something.

But what happens if, you know, by the way, your your pool analogy is totally perfect.

You know, the borders of states turns out are open and people can drive and continue their life and move about, you know, the pool as much as they want to.

You may not think they're peeing on you, but they are.

The water is getting warmer. And it's like you said, the people bringing it back.

It's not it doesn't have to be a sinister thing.

It could be a family member who wants to go see their parents out of state. You know, that's exactly how that's exactly how the numbers shot up like crazy in New Orleans.

Exactly. Mardi Gras, you didn't know you were sick.

Your immune system is compromised because of the debauchery of the weekend.

And then you then you went and visit grandma and the one visit to grandma infected the entire old folks home.

Yeah, Grace, my daughter, Grace, one of her coworkers at a Bonnarooo that they both worked has tested four times positive, showing no signs.

But every time she keeps getting tested, she she's got it.

But she, you know, so how many other guys are out there?

Did I did I say this on the podcast last week or the week before?

So sitting in this chair doing the show, somehow I threw my back out and my back hurt so damn bad for four days.

Literally, as soon as I got up doing the show, I was out, out.

And it was a it was a back pain that I've never felt before.

And it was at the base of my spine. And I didn't think anything about it.

I was like, this just sucks. I'm going to lay down for a couple of days and be fine.

And then Wednesday hits and George Stepanopoulos tested positive for coronavirus and he showed no symptoms.

He showed nothing wrong, but he wanted to go back to work.

So to before they let him back in the studio, they wanted to test him. Well, he tested positive.

He had no symptoms. Nothing was wrong. The only thing that had come up in the last week.

Back pain. He threw his back out and his back hurt.

So imagine my panic after hurting my back doing a podcast about Bonnarooo,

seeing George Stepanopoulos basically test positive for coronavirus because his back hurt.

You're going to think I'm making this up, but I had the same issue last weekend.

But I know I did it because we spent all day cleaning and moving boxes and everything.

But I'm glad I didn't hear that report because I want to get you.

No kidding. It freaked me out. And so to your point, if you don't know that you have,

I mean, hell, the wife all week has had a knee problem.

This woman is the most in shape person you've ever met in your life.

And her knee hurts into the bone. Coronavirus. I mean, like we're all going to do.

I know. And the point the point is, OK, now put that now multiply that by, oh, I don't know, 30,000.

Well, but I mean, that's that's looking at it from a point of view of somebody who's thinking they have it.

It's those people that think they're Superman and that this is all a hoax that want to go out there and are spreading it around.

They're the one. I mean, both are worrisome. Yeah. You know.

OK, so so take the political part of it out. All right. So take the lady who I saw in Fox News the other day,

who was screaming about reopening the economy out of her out of her SUV window.

And the Fox News guy asked her, so what exactly are you wanting to do?

She goes, I need my roots, dad. You know, and like they're literally just worried about their haircut.

So this person who who may not be all there or thinks it's a government conspiracy or this, that or the other decides to go to the event that you decide to go to.

You know what they're calling those lucky me. That's that branch.

That's branch. Oh, yeah. OK. Yeah, it's pretty good. No, you're exactly right. Yeah. Somebody with that agenda who wants to decide for you.

Right. Right. That they're going out. That's exactly right. And I want to love all these Bonnarooo people.

I want to love everybody that's there because we are all sharing a communal experience and hopefully values that we all appreciate.

But not everybody thinks like me. Not everybody acts like me.

Not everybody thinks like taco. Not everybody thinks like you. Right.

It's it's just too much to is too to dicey and too scary.

Like so when Brian tells me that he's not going to be affected, he's going to go.

I still don't know if I would. I just I haven't. I don't know.

I even started thinking. Let me read some more.

I'm pretty sure all my Patreons have physical cards.

John Tess and I like to hear from them is some luck.

Also, we have some good holder.

They also are doing a great job.

They also have been in this with every single post and they don't their

fan page every now and again for nearly 10 years.

Uh, I'm still waiting for stuff like that and I was they really just have something great.

were the yeah so I remember you know the level sisters I know you used to come to

Chattanooga and oh nine you did Bonnarooo right yeah yeah as the level sisters

let's do this if you don't mind if you tell me which one of you is which so

that listeners myself included can sort of get a read on who's talking when we

can figure out voices which one our voices are very similar obviously

sisters but I'm the younger one I play guitar and the lead singer in the main

songwriter to the band and Rebecca and I am Megan I play lap steel and I'm the

older sister nice thank you for doing that I have so much I want to get to

yeah one of the things that I especially and I know Brad does too that we love

about doing this podcast and Bonnarooo especially is sort of following bands you

know I mean that's one of the things I think that festival does really well is

bring people back as they develop and get bigger and we've talked with other

bands about what a thrill that is you know to play a teeny tiny stage in front

of a couple hundred people and then years later play to many many many

people so let's start there what's it mean for you guys to be heading back to

Bonnarooo I love this question because I do think that's a really insightful look

at you know the way that Bonnarooo helps to follow artists as they grow and

change because you know who we were as the level sisters whenever we first

started as you know middling teenagers compared to who we are now as Larkin Poe

and we're in our late 20s we're very different artists very different people

you know the essence is the same but the clothing and the outfitting and the

experience has completely shifted and it feels really nostalgic to get back to

Bonnarooo with all the memories and cats from from then to here I mean we've

gotten to do some unbelievable touring since that first time performing at

Bonnarooo 109 we've you know been on the course with Keith Urban then on the road

with Bob Seeker we've opened up for you know ZZ Talk and just done a bunch of

wild and crazy stuff that I think our you know 17 year old selves could never

have imagined so getting to bring all that experience with us as we come back

to the Bonnarooo stage I think it's gonna be an absolute blast this year and you

were here they were there rather in in 18 and I was just looking back through

some of our notes and we do Brad and I do a thing called Bonnarooo Let where we

spin a wheel and land on an act and then theoretically a lot of times it's bands

we maybe don't know much about but sometimes it's bands that we just want

to talk about and that's what we did in 18 I think you were the third you are

third Bonnarooo let's spin that should that should mean a whole lot we chat

about I know it was terrific I mean to be able to be in people's you know minds

and hearts that that's what makes the whole thing tick it is a bit surreal

we've done so much touring internationally and to have friends

around the world and you know this past winter played China and Tokyo for the

first time and getting to go to Australia again this year like you realize

that the connections that bind people they truly are global and just to be

remembered feels really nice let me go back because like I said we're I want to

jump all over the place because you guys have done so much and it's such an

important story but first of all let people know you guys are from Calhoun

Georgia which is about 40 minutes from Chattanooga as I always say at the paper

when people do well we claim you so we claim you as Chattanoogans

Calhoun is you know 40 minutes south right off 75 so we all the time as you

know Megan what we were probably 15 16 coming up to the signal mountain operate

we were coming through Chattanooga all of the time we did a lot of our yeah a

lot of our like first musical experiences were actually in Chattanooga

so we claim it as well nice but Nashville's home now right yeah so I

wanted to ask four and a half years ago I wanted to ask because we're recording

this on the Friday the week of the tornado so I just wanted to check you

guys obviously did you survive everything I mean it were there any

damage that you personally had to deal with yeah we have been crazy looking at

all of the damage that has been done and we went yesterday and actually tried to

do some help clean up and it was the damage was just extraordinary and the

homes that have been lost and the businesses that have been lost it's

really heartbreaking to see but it is also heartwarming to see all the people

that have showed up and you know people were out in the thousands helping out

their neighbors it's really heartwarming to see people come together you do get

both sides of that my in-laws house was destroyed in 97 when the tornado hit the

day before Easter so I'm having all these memories of the helicopters flying

over in the church groups just walking up and down the street helping people

carry brush and limbs and anything carrying water yeah so you really see

you see both sides but I also know it's it's a long haul I mean it's not over in

a week you know there's a lot to clean up and it's certainly not it is

certainly not and it has been really like you said Megan shocking to see how

neighborhoods are completely reshaped and it'll be it'll be equally

interesting and I think empowering to see how humans are capable of rising

above and rebuilding and making something you know more beautiful than

there was before I believe that that's gonna happen yeah was it 364 houses and

a hundred and something buildings were either destroyed or damaged so but you

know not to make light of it but if anything if Nashville knows anything

these days it's how to build it's unbelievable and and for people who

don't know don't know their geography Nashville is about just a little bit

farther away from Manchester and Bonnarooo than Chattanooga is so it's

obviously on all of our minds which is why I wanted to ask that and the fact

that you guys live there but talk about and you have because I and one of the

things that I wanted to talk about you were at River Band which is our big city

festival last year and I was there and it was a terrific show this Bonnarooo

lineup is stacked as we've talked about many many times and I hope I haven't we

haven't seen the schedule yet so but I'm hoping people will have a chance to to

see you guys have you looked at the schedule yourselves I have and you're

talking about this most recent year where it's blackberry smoke and made

this and all like real people that I revere I think that River Bend has done

an incredible job of pulling together this star-studded lineup that if people

aren't familiar with some of the bands go out and see them anyway because

River Bend has picked like some gems for people I mean blackberry smoke Charlie

star the front man's are for blackberry smoke is like my all-time hero he's he

was such a badass and if you are not familiar with blackberry smoke you must

go go to River Bend this year and see that perform and that's part of why I

brought I wanted to bring that up these festivals big and small are important to

not just the acts but fans right I mean there's such an opportunity to see and

several acts at once number one but also maybe acts that you don't you're not

familiar with that's that's a big part of the reason for going right oh

absolutely I think that's the biggest reason for going and a lot of our

formative experiences with music we're absolutely at festivals where you know

you're able to walk around and just take a sampling of music that you didn't even

know you would like I think it's especially important for children to be

taken to festivals because our parents took us you know to River Bend many times

and all the way up into North Carolina and through North Carolina there's

rural fest which is an incredible Americana American music festival that we

were taken to and got bit by the bluegrass bug you know in our early

teeth and we would never have known that that would have even been something that

would remotely connect with us but just being given the opportunity to

experience music in that very live and organic way it's so it's so special

festivals I I adore festival fees I'm so glad it's almost upon us this year yeah

I want to come back to your parents in a minute but so to just to compare River

Bend is a city festival probably last year there were 20,000 people Bonnarooo

already sold out gonna be 80,000 people there when you play and you've done

Glastonbury which has come up on this podcast several times is sort of the

model that Ashley Capps had in mind for Bonnarooo talk a little bit about the

differences in playing those and Murrell Fest are there differences are there big

differences for you guys as a performer oh certainly I mean I think

geographically it makes a big difference if you're in Europe or the UK as opposed

to playing the festival in you know Oregon State or you know or Tennessee

like you're you're definitely bumping into different people with different

cultural importances and you know even just you know the setting of a festival

we played Megan we played a lot of festivals in Colorado this year though

what was the one thing the Cascades that we played it was a really awesome

festival right in the middle of the Cascade Mountain like just really

intriguing differences but specifically I think between the US and European

festivals there's less differences than you would think you know music lovers

or music lovers around the world and you may not be speaking the same language

when you're you know playing it you know one of the big rock festivals in Germany

but uh but the feeling is the same that everyone is there to achieve the same

purpose which is to connect and to celebrate music as an art form and that's

really special but I mean of course Glastonbury is one of the tops it's it's

such a massive it's a festival of epic proportions like when you when you drive

in you just can't even fathom how huge the site is and also how I mean the

links that people are willing to go to to endure the festival itself I mean I

think the people who have attended you know even a Riverbend or a Bonnarooo it's

like you go and incredibly hot during the day and by the end of the day you're

tired and there and then you go to Bonnarooo and there's people who are

really enjoying the heat for a three-day weekend but then you go to Glastonbury

and there are people that are there enduring not only heat during the day

but a three-day weekend of about 18 bajillion mud puddles that you could

potentially fall into and go down you may never find you again once you fall

into some of these mud puddles so it's like you know you got it's a spice of life you

gotta go out and experience things and I think music festival is a great way to do that.

You mentioned your dad and your mom David and Trisha. David and I

remember speaking to you whatever 12 11 12 years ago a big influence on you guys

musically right and I think that's I was thinking about it before I called that

it's my personal opinion that it's every parent's responsibility to teach music

and music history to their children like like my kids do very well at trivia

night you guys had similar upbringings right our parents are big music lovers so

we do feel lucky to have grown up into a household where a wide variety of music

was being played and our mom was really wanted us to be involved in classical

music and so she was you know playing playing for us like baby Bach tapes we

listened to everything from like classical to she was also she loved folk

music Alison Krauss and Union Station and you know the Carpenter's and then on the

other side our dad was was playing us all like the classic rock records

everything from Ozzy to the Allman Brothers so we do feel feel very lucky

that that they are huge lovers of all different kinds of genres so we we've

really grown up loving a lot of different music so I think our our

influence are definitely fairly wise mm-hmm I think that shows right I mean

that level the level sisters when you were a trio with your sister Rebecca I

mean excuse me with Jessica right yeah was a string basically trio right and

the show that I saw last year with some amazing guitar and and rhythm not

necessarily that same band right talk about how that influence and coming up

with that sort of a household has helped you guys develop over the years yeah I

absolutely think you can hear you can hear you know they put it for saying you

can see the shadow that is passed by a tree show the shadow passed by the tree

shows you where the tree is gonna grow or something like there's some like each

saying about you know following in your in your parents footsteps essentially

which I think is really powerful and I think it absolutely played huge with our

with our development as artists from initially being so involved in classical

music which really gave us a great basis and understanding music and having a

work ethic about music and having your training and then falling in love with

bluegrass music which I think kind of took place all of us together as a

family our parents are definitely aware of Alison Krauss and Jerry Douglas and

you know folk music as a general rule but whenever we got involved in

bluegrass as 13 14 year olds our folks were definitely going out and having a

lot of fresh experiences with us well we were all kind of becoming inundated and

bitten by the bluegrass bug at the same time but then like Megan said

simultaneously you know there was so much classic rock being played in the

house and we were young you know dad left Queen Records that look you know

the stones and lead Deflin and you know Leonard Skinner and all across the board

just constantly having music playing so as Megan and I continue to develop as

songwriters you know once we had had the toy experiences as the level sisters

with our big sister we knew that we loved making music there was a lot of

foundational you know experiences that took place with I think our commitment

to making music we did start to toy with the genres that we were moving in for

Larkin Poe by introducing more electrified instruments in order to

achieve the sounds that we had heard growing up with all those classic rock

records because when you're playing in a bluegrass string band you do not have a

drummer you do not have amplifiers you do not have effects pedals you just

don't have a bright instrument on stage so that was a big leap of change for us

whenever Megan picked up the lap steel which is essentially the electric

version of the dobro and I transitioned from mandolin and violin over to

predominantly electric guitar so just the sonic shift was huge and I think it

opened up a lot of doors for us creatively that we never would have even

considered you know walking through until you're suddenly doing it and you

realize all at once oh my gosh we're a little rock band now how does this

happen it feels great was it that kind of a transition it was just a normal

I know when you know Jessica left she's older and left and decided to go a

different route was it that sort of moment where you said well we've got to

decide to go forward and how should we go forward or did it just sort of

naturally occur or how did it happen I that's so funny to me because I feel all

of us feel you know that we are the masters of our of our future and that you

know by by the strength of our will and by the the habits that we do or don't

break you know that we can change the outcome of things but I think as time

goes by and more for a believer in in the organic nature of the way that

things unfold so there was I mean elements of

intensity that Megan and I had I think when approaching the genre shift over

the course of you know maybe the first three or four years of Larkin Poe but by

the same token you know we were 18 19 at the time and so while you may think that

you're being intentional there's also a lot of you know dilly-dallying and and

being 17 18 years old that takes place so I do think that luck and just kind of

I don't even know what you want to call it if you want to call it you know

destiny or I'm not sure what forces are at play but it definitely happened

organically for us and it's just become more and more clear that this is the

road that we want to be on therefore we we travel further down the road of roots

rock and really celebrating roots American music but in a little you know

badass rock outfit and and trying to be as true to the sounds that we hear in our

head as we can be and it is a badass rock outfit I mean I really do hope

people get to see it because it blew my hair back last year that that's that so

it was terrific would you could we like to hear it was that's why I wanted to

talk to you I mean I'm serious it was great and I think you guys opened for

the Warren Treaty right am I getting my days or that was Taz you were the night

before I think but yeah right are you guys would you consider yourselves be

after what we just talked about sort of historians and and I'm asking because

going to a Glastonbury or a Murlfest or a Bonnarooo do they hold any special

meeting meanings to you guys from a sort of a history place where you think about

all the people the bands that you've loved that have played there before and

I've never I've never thought about that Megan what would you what do you feel

that does that ever cross your mind I think that we think back to like the

people that we listen to specifically lately like we're we've been becoming so

involved in in blues music and kind of carrying those traditions for it that

that we definitely think about ourselves I think of like ambassadors like

bringing trying to bring those names to the forefront again like like we're on

stage we're definitely like telling people like who this song was inspired

by and I mean that we do think about ourselves as like maybe not historians

in that way but definitely like like bringing it into our our generation

mm-hmm and I think applying that same kind of thought to the different

festivals that we have played there is a certain amount of gravitas that I think

some of these festivals certainly can you know wield they have this kind of

otherworldly atmosphere when you enter the hallowed grounds you know of

Glastonbury I think actually though the biggest kind of aha moment that we have

had in recent history in terms of time and place was getting to play out of the

I guess it's the Monterey County Fairgrounds where a place in a festival

at Monterey California but it was the original location of the Monterey Pop

Festival so we got to play on stage where Jimmy Burns has a guitar in that

epic you know footage hair-raising but then by the same token you're so

distracted by your own performance you know you're focusing on in my case not

forgetting the lyrics or not tripping over all the cables on the stage that

there's only so much right absorbing of the space that you can really really do

while you're performing but even so that was an especially cool one get to play

on that stage out in Monterey that was special yeah I'm glad you I can imagine

yeah I mean that's probably everybody of any age has that CD or album in their

collection that Pops Festival was amazing and you mentioned Mavis she's

coming back to our River Bend I mean that's like watching history in

personified to me it's incredible she was at what Bonnarooo two years ago same I

guess the same year you guys were and to see her you know talking about being

there when the civil rights marches and all you get it kind of kind of blows your

mind when you think about it and yeah it's important to remember that well we

have the great pleasure of getting to meet Mavis at an event that we did late

last year and I think for Megan and myself as you know late 20 something

musicians having had a lot of experiences under our belt and really

cherishing music and the experience of the human connection that music can

bring and getting to sit down and speak with someone who is as sharp and open

and vulnerable and beautiful as Mavis is that really brings it full circle and it

puts everything into into context of what purpose music serves in our lives

as humans and it is kind of this greater than greater than the summit part type

moment for for the human spirits when you do align and connect for music and I

think that that is the overriding takeaway message for festivals is you

got it you got to go out you got to experience it you got to open yourself

up and share something with your fellow man because it's it's a special way to

do it it's one of the things that makes us most human so it should be cherished

well said I want to ask because we ask everybody on here have you looked at

this year's Bonnarooo lineup and are you who are you excited to see and are you

gonna have time to hang out oh you know we're playing we're playing on Thursday

I it's not right Megan we're playing on Thursday I believe yeah that's right

right yeah so I think that we're gonna try to get out there and see some folks

I would love to see Miley Cyrus I think that she's doing really incredible

things for music heritage in a way when you when you kind of dig deeper into

her her stage performances she loops in a lot of classic rock tunes and gives

shoutouts to artists that I think generation a lot of younger people may

not be familiar with so I would love to go and see a Miley Cyrus show for sure I

think she she's making cool waves for music but she's definitely on the list

to us Thursday has become one of our favorite nights because it's discovery

night you know it's usually filled with a lot of acts that a lot of people have

not heard and the energy is up everyone is so excited to be there it's just it's

a lot of fun it'll be great thank you so much for having us on the show thank you

very much yourselves both of you and I look forward to seeing you Thursday at

Bonnarooo thanks guys

Larkin Poe on the what podcast Barry Courter nice job nice job there buddy it's like you've been

doing this before I've been around a bit it was fun talking then fun catching up

like I said before we jump in with with David I had to have a like a random

question for both of you you got a show that you're watching you got a is

something that you are getting into before you like you're obsessed with the

show that you screaming I had a taco I'll tell you mine good I'm looking for

them I need new ones really well before taco get tacos mine shits Creek I cannot

believe how much I missed this show when it I guess it was just finished right so

but it's been on for so long and I had no idea this is the funniest damn show

you took like four episodes for me to get into it but my god once I'm into it

I literally just walk around the house going David David yeah all day I can't

stop talking like her it is so much fun that's the last thing tacos giving us

that buffering stare we all are very clear with the buffering stare now I

think it turned into Kelsey for a second but what's the show that you're

obsessed with right now the show that you're obsessed with right now oh dark

absolutely watch dark it is the outsider it is stranger things it is Donnie Darko

it's back to the future it it's a German show there's a lot of

Volkswagens in it that's the only reason why he saw it on a Volkswagen message

board and so now he's watching all right on my list I will say the one person I'm

terrible at it will you give me a recommendation I'll be like oh my god

that sounds great I'll get into I know I'll never watch it but Barry Courter is

very good about it if I've ever suggested anything to Barry he always watches it

would have you know what have you been doing yeah you and I talked about Ozark

I thought season three of Ozark was terrific I like that type of show I

went in fact I went back and started watching justified again I missed that

with Timothy Olafant and a buddy of mine recommended ten star and I've watched

both seasons in the last three days Tim Roth is in it he's a Canadian or ends up

being a police chief in a small town and it's it like Ozark which I know you're

familiar with yeah you can't imagine the things that happen look I don't like

Ozark for a few specific reasons mainly because it's a showtime show and

Showtime shows have a problem no Volkswagen's I'm there's no Volkswagen's I'm out

Showtime shows have a problem because Showtime has no hits so they make the

shows milk like they milk as much as they can out of them and they force the

show to never have an ending keep storylines going that are nonsensical

just so they can get more season and more season and more seasons out of them

it's the reason why shameless is so unwatchable you know there's a bunch

that are so formulaic that you know a 20-minute scene could could have been two

minutes and then like HBO you know there's gonna be nudity what every four

and a half minutes and there's gonna be all kinds of man just like this podcast

yeah exactly if you're not watching via YouTube you can always watch our thing

now with moving pictures on our YouTube channel the what podcasts on YouTube but

if you are watching on YouTube or the live stream right over Barry's right

shoulder is a Bonnarooo poster and I can't stop staring at it because it swear

to God it looks to me like it says butteroo yeah it just from this distance

butteroo you know I'm glad you mentioned that YouTube because I want to do I

thought about this we can't play near the music that we do and on the just the

audio version of the podcast a lot of the breaks and stuff that you put in so

you can't do that on YouTube so for anybody who you know wonders there are

they are different well before we get into our chat with David let's read some

more patreon's and then talk to a patreon all right that last group was in the

bring back the arch group by the way this one's the glazed group with Chelsea

Davis Evan Brown Gordon Silver Jason Hazel Baker Joshua Herndon Lauren

Edel home at home Linda dolls Lucy young Nick Yeatman Ross McNamara Ryan

Matthewsson Sean McCarthy Tyrone basket William Richards and Clay Wilhoit well

welcome to the podcast David that's a Lord taco with the beard and full effect

looking very nice there buddy Lord tacos face is the equivalent of Barry

quarter's head and that his hair is just upside down yeah that's Barry Courter

Brad Steiner thanks for thanks for showing up where you got you're in Ohio

as if I can tell by your shirt yes yeah I'm up in Northeast Ohio live in a town

called North Georgetown and if you Google map that you'll see a lot of farm

and green but it's you draw a line between Cleveland and Pittsburgh

somewhere right in the middle there okay got yours got your yin-ling here's the

thing I I've learned about Ohio people they love Ohio I mean they love Ohio

they wear it they hang it on their walls it is just all about Ohio I don't know

what in the world they love so much about Ohio and you guys you're all in

yeah I have a question first before we go too much further

anyone else seeing the big what logo on front of David's forehead or is that

just on my screen taco that's probably just on your screen okay I just want to

make sure because it's like right all right yeah something we can fix now

let's fix it now cool all right well everything's set up so everybody looks

good and everybody's in the right spot so we're ready yeah we're already going

you're saying David yes I know I'm just saying that's true if you went down and

I gave an OH to somebody someone somewhere far away oh yeah automatic you

just do it and how many boundaries deep are you oh one now I was hoping to go

one more but yeah that's my first one we've it's been it's been years in the

making we've my wife and I we met at Ohio State University and we decided you

know what we should we should go to Bonnaroo and of course that's when we're

poor college students so we're scraping by then you know one thing leads to

another life life gets a hold of you and pretty soon I'm getting old older than

you not maybe not quite as Barry but uh no

yeah yeah it gets a little bit tougher going out saying I want to camp out

outside and underneath that that Tennessee Sun so we say we scraped up a

little bit and finally made it out there had had a five-year-old she got to go

hang out grandma and grandpa and we finally made it out there you know ten

years in the making so but it was totally worth it it was awesome her

weekend sounded like mine hanging out with grandpa Barry was it everything you

hoped oh yeah you know when you know I was thinking about it you go and almost

every year for me it starts like in November you get you know you get the

pre-sale going and then you get the lineup drop and hanging out with you

guys going all the different episodes and going on reddit and through you

build this like excitement and you're thinking man I hope it's gonna be

everything I thought it'd be and for me it was all those years and watching it

online when they when they used to stream it online and stuff and it was it

was the best it was the best time and everything that we can you know thought

it would be it was even more and I you know Barry think before you said you

know you go and you smile ear to ear and that's how it was you know so last year

was your first year yeah yeah and so yeah and how many years did you sit

around and just watch the conversation happen before you decided to pull the

trigger and go I'd be if it was in college I'd be early 2000s really and

yeah so what was the piece of advice do you think that you got that helped you

the most when you actually got there that you actually put into effect and

you came after after we're joining man I'm so glad we did blame yeah yeah they

were right yeah yeah there's just so many good good pieces advice that you

scrape through with just being a lurker on on you know reddit and in Peru

especially but I think just doing it the way you want to do it I you know I'm

more towards Barry where I do walk-bys and you know we we had we know we go we

have their plan and what we wanted to do and these must not you know we couldn't

miss these people we did that which was terrific but really it was just like we

ended up places where we didn't intend to you know end up and it was it was

great you know it's all this planning which was great what was a walk-by that

you found yourself that you loved we started off I think it was this is this

is gonna be a while I think the Thursday I think we went to we wanted to see J

Bird and J Bird was awesome and that was just listening to the playlist and

recommendations and stuff and she was terrific and it was you know not not a

top-level artist but it was you know more intimate setting and she came out

and hung out with us after after the set and you know it was really cool and then

just going to I don't know there's just so many I think I'm trying to think like

Warren treaty was awesome I know you guys mentioned that a lot we were

sitting out in the VIP tent next to the this tent and we were just sitting

outside I think it was on lunchtimes grabbing a lunch or something having a

beer like what is that sound coming across the field you know and then it

was just blew blew me away blew my wife away and just stuff like that which I

they weren't really on my like to-do list but it was great you know yeah

Brad I stumbled across playing music this morning I think it was I had we

never talked about that high I'm show you know of all that did you go to that

one you know it's a tad cloudy I cannot cannot necessarily remember if I went

to the hame show it was just so great and then I found the music this morning

and it reminded me and I don't think we've ever even talked about that one

but it was a terrific show and it was a complete walk by for me because I didn't

know I had to fix my set my apologies so the fact that last I think that she

might be baking naked back there I think that we're making breakfast in a

sorry so when you were talking about that ten years of buildup reminded me

how how worried I was about the whole camping experience way way back

over planned over stress was that you guys or I mean people have done it

enough now and there's enough information out there you know it's

maybe not as stressful as it was 15 years ago for me anyway but what was that

like that whole planning did you guys over do kind of goes back to Brad's

earlier question yeah I mean we I'll tell you what I cheated because we went

VIP and I went I went my bond so I I camped look all that savings that we did

but that was the fun of it was just going through and you know for when we

knew we were gonna go when we got the pre-sale tickets and that lead up to it

the fun part was going on and seeing what people did like don't bring so much

food make sure you bring this don't bring this and just seeing all that stuff

and then for my wife and I it's like every time we go out shopping and Target

would have a sale on camping equipment it was just fun to buy all those things

you know and you know by June we had this kind of cool setup and you know we

bought lights and decorated our tent and stuff like that it was a lot of fun and

we didn't buy a grill or anything else so we got all the recommendations were

spot-on and I have taken way too much joy in like decorating camp you really

shouldn't I mean it's not really the most important thing but for us it's the

most important moment rolling out carpet and you know hanging lights really

becomes our favorite thing to do on a Wednesday night which you know maybe

we'll just be doing it in the yard this year Barry because let's be honest this

ain't happening no it's not gonna happen no I disagree with you Brad I think it's

important it's I mean it's fun when we're putting it up it's fun to see

people's reactions it's not it's not fun Monday morning yeah taking it all down

but you know that's part of it so I appreciate that advice that we did we

did bring carpet yeah the carpet was I'm telling you it went I can't explain to

you the the how hard my campmates eyes rolled when I started explaining to the

thing that things I started wanted to bring ten years ago and the one that got

everybody was carpet they mocked me and made fun of me and just I mean wrecked me

day after day for weeks leading up to it and then the second that carpet gets

there everybody's like you know what it's a pretty good idea it was it was the

Bissell that was over the top I did I did bring a carpet it was the Bissell I

have to maintain a very clean space we used it it was great yeah yeah I don't

complain we're gonna have to I'm gonna have to put time out real quick if you

can hit pause I've got to find a charger I didn't know I'm dying here hang on a

second hang on pause we're live yeah

I really don't know if it's worth it or not we're gonna cut this in post but we

never do anything in post is that the it'll never get fixed we're not David

your wife you got we love asking couples this especially you guys go to

everything together or did you ever split up we went most of it together we

did split up there was the time I think we saw I saw Davey by myself because it

was like what mid-afternoon you probably did you probably were right there with

us then you went from Davey right to Warren treaty right yeah yeah yeah yeah

have you ever seen have you ever seen a band smile more than those guys were no

they were so awesome I loved like that and I mentioned like minor set change

them being there and being you could just there were authentic people I loved

being there and loved doing what they're doing and that's contagious I think you

know and that was the fun part about it too that was absolutely Brad we were

just talking about that Davey said he David and his wife I know your wife

didn't go we were with David and we were just talking about how asking me if he'd

ever seen a band smile more than those guys they were happy it seemed like they they

acted like the way we're gonna act post quarantine COVID hugging everybody

loving everything that's gonna be us here in a couple weeks yeah yeah

absolutely they were happy is that the only one you guys split up what you do

just hang out and kind of try to stay in the out of the Sun yeah I tell you one

thing going VIP and getting those other the AC tents that we're all spread across

yeah good move that's gold so yeah so she stayed in there she probably got

like a massage and you know drinking drinking inside the AC tents so I told

her I want I definitely see that one does based off your guys's recommendations

I can't miss that one so I went out and saw that one other than that we saw a

lot of it together we she has she has pretty good music taste a really good

music taste and we like everything in the Sun so we'll see anything you know

we're not we don't have one lane that we stay in so that was the fun part when

um when you saw the lineup this year it was a no-brainer yeah are you gonna go

no matter what the lineup was we usually go no matter what we like the lineup to

us is just the icing on the cake you know we have so much fun just being

there doing everything really so and we know we're gonna find great people and

we know we're gonna find people that we didn't even know about which I think is

half the fun too so yeah tell us it's just the overall experience so here's

here's the thing you know you've got jazz fest was canceled and it was

supposed to go on this weekend well a local radio station one that I don't

work for has put on jazz fest in place where basically you they'll play all of

the old clips from jazz fest and they've got markets around town that are you were

able because everybody loves the festival food right friends and spicy

pie the there's markets in town that will deliver you the food that you so

badly wanted to buy a jazz fest like the crawfish boudin or the crawfish

enchiladas and you know by the way if we could pull this off

bonnar is not gonna happen right but I think that we all would crowd around our

our computer screens and watch a Bonnarooo live feed of every artist that

we wanted to see with maybe you know spicy pie delivered to our house I think

we could figure this out couldn't we it's really interesting

our friend trevin and I can't even think of his name now friend I am killing me

I'm embarrassed man but he like Barry David champion I'm sorry David I'm being

distracted because I'm getting texts from work so David posted a poster of

some other festival that's happening similar to what you're talking about and

it's a great lineup but I don't it's just not the I don't know that I want to

watch music on my computer screen that's not what it's about I can do that

anytime you know I haven't been a big fan either and I respect them for doing

it but and maybe June 11th I'll feel differently because we're not in

Manchester and I'll you know be looking for something I don't know it's just

weird to me you watch any live streams I do I like it every once in a while I

mean I think come June I well I mean what happened to the Bonnarooo live stream

before like it was awesome to watch it live and yeah right nothing very good

on that with a with your I didn't know that I didn't know that I I know I really

always liked like the reason why I can mark certain shows off of my off of my

grid is because I I watched the live stream of Coachella and I'll say yeah

that didn't work you know like we all we all saw like the Lizzo thing coming

because her Coachella set was just so you know even with the technical issues

were like man there's something about this stage show yes the live streams

work in some some avenues but yeah you're right they don't they don't

necessarily grab me ever but boy it sure does feel good when they're on and

Bonnarooo is happening and you're not there you know it's almost like it's

almost like listening to Bonnarooo radio it's not really well done but thank God

it's there and I can it feels like I'm being touched or I'm having a that's

what it is but we're having a universal experience right we're all actually

doing the same thing you know that's why the NFL drafts numbers were through the

roof you know very rarely are we having these communal experiences anymore and

we finally Tiger King or is Tiger King doing so well and had 18 billion

minutes watched on Netflix is because we're finally always all doing something

together yeah it's timing it's a communal thing absolutely yeah I don't know like

I said come June somebody's gonna come up with something we'll probably I'll

probably watch at least be part of something yeah and I can understand Barry

you not wanting to watch live streams as much as you as maybe someone else

because you're watching it on that computer over the right of your shoulder

how are you watching just one of live stream on that 1994 Mac I'll tell you

what's embarrassing I counted the other day I think I have 11 such computers in

my home I don't know why I just can't get rid of some things I want to put a

fishbowl in that one I just hadn't gotten around to it that's that's the

answer Brad I haven't gotten around to it anything and that's gonna be the

answer taco you watching any live streams not really we watched one a few

weeks ago from a local band that was doing something here in Chattanooga and

yeah it's just not the same I mean you're you're sitting on the couch you

know it's it's not the same experience you could be watching movies you know

it's not a replacement for like actually being there live but what if you're

watching it in the bus in the Volkswagen bus wouldn't that be more fun that'd be

more fun okay I could I could set up like a screen in here uh-huh who doesn't

love camping in the garage well it depends on if you're with me yeah the

poor bus yeah that's true I mean that's part of you know live shows is you you

experience it together well if you're sitting at home you know it's you're not

interacting with as much you know the the PBR is a lot cheaper though are you

guys planning to go in September we're thinking about I mean I have a different

way to do it yes it happens I mean I'd love to go I wanted to do the campground

but that got sold out I didn't I was trying to get it like I was trying to

figure out how to do it and they said the tickets went on sale like January

1st call of Jan 1st or whatever that first Monday was sold out and so I have

a I have a room booked at the what is it the Holiday Inn right right there yeah

just to try to do it I visited every day yeah at certain point at certain day I

visited for you know connect with my people you know yeah that's so nice of

you yeah I think but yeah I don't know I mean we don't I don't actually have

tickets at this moment so and I don't know what's gonna happen so it's you

know if it happens in there I just like anybody else we're trying to shuffle

around and see if you can get work off or you know and and seeing if you feel

confident in going in September yeah I don't know what's gonna be like in

September either you know so I think that's like gonna be the biggest hold

back of any of this is is not if insert festival happens it's how comfortable do

you feel actually being there you know I had a conversation with one of our camp

mates yesterday Bryan Stone the host of the world's most listened to and

downloaded podcasts in the history of podcast the stone on their podcast and

he said I don't care bro doesn't matter to me I'm not gonna live in fear you

know one of those kind of arguments but I kept having to remind him say dude

it's not about you it's about what you might be you know bringing to the party

nobody is I mean you're invited to the party it's all the friends that you

bring that are the problem that you know you don't know what you're carrying you

don't know what you back home that's right right and and if if New Orleans is

any sort of indication look what giant you mass events do and how it can then

turn into a big-time problem Mardi Gras was the the source of damn near all of

our cases and you know you get done with Mardi Gras you don't know you're that sick

and you go visit grandma and you've got an entire old folks home now ill so it's

not just you not being scared bro but it's like how much of this do you want

to keep poking how often you want to keep poking the bear and in challenging

this when all the science says you better not poke the bear so I don't know

I don't know what I don't know what it looks like even if it were to happen and

you know would it scare me off Barry I don't know I don't I don't I really

don't know no it's a legitimate concern I mean I I've pretty much been holed up

I go out once a week to you know the store or whatever or run down the street

that's it and I don't I don't know I mean I haven't really put much thought

into it like I'm scared I'm just trying to be respectful I guess and I am

worried my wife goes to work kind of worries me that she comes back home but

she's not interacting with a lot of people currently but if they open the

restaurants back up and the hotels which they're doing I guess this week here

Monday Monday yeah tomorrow so I mean nobody knows my nod of disapproval

nobody knows and I mean people that are arguing that we got to get back to

normalcy and it's hurting businesses and all that is that's not the argument you

know I get I get that it's taco okay one step further about how how you just

don't know by the way you ain't going to Bible study you're going to basically

push your body beyond its abilities of drinking of no sleep of whatever it is

other things that you're putting into your body I mean you're living on spicy

pie I mean you are destroying your immune system for five days four days

however and then you think that you know you're invincible yeah break that's a

good point I think I think I've laughed about it wasn't it was two years ago I

got home that Monday morning and don't remember anything until Thursday and it

wasn't you know that I was drugged out I was just so tired there you are in an

advanced age though that I'm old anything to your point so I go up there

and live unhealthily for five days and then you know guy if I catch you know

something then yeah it's a bad it's a bad deal and and and as we've said many

times the Bonnarooo people don't want that either they don't want that on

their conscience their insurance people's lawyers certainly don't want

that kind of thing so yeah yeah there's a lot hypothetically if it were to

happen who were you excited to see who is your your top three my top three I

want to see I got I'm gonna go home or pick I want to see camp because they're

from Columbus right yeah so I want to see camp who who was it

Briston Moroney yes keep getting name drops yeah last week in the episode yeah

and then you know I kind of want to go just hit all the big names I think you

know going seeing like a Miley Cyrus and Dolly Combs that'd be great or you know

I'll even heck going back to college I want to go see Nellie and see the st.

Luke the st. Lunatics and whatever you know whatever else happened just that

that's like a fun type of thing and I know it's different I think you guys

went to see T pain which wasn't so great yeah but when we did our walk by which

was way far back everybody was singing along really you know and but we weren't

in we were not close we just did the walk but it was so packed because it was

overflowing everywhere we did the walk by of T pain too and the reason why I

say that it was not good is because the guy on stage was just screaming at us

and telling us that we we didn't appreciate T pain as much and T pain

left after two songs and comes back 20 minutes later like can you do a nap it

was very odd I didn't know any of that I just walked in the walk by sounded

awesome Rose having fun so I don't know so you're not gonna go see the baby or

the baby you know what though if there is not a bigger hip-hop artist on the

planet right now then then sir baby and you know you know it once the grid came

out I probably would have figured out a way to checked out Lord baby but I which

by the way Lord taco the running joke is he's graded identifying babies and he's

really good you can find any baby and he'll be able to tell you whether or not

it's a baby Lord taco the baby baby or not he's not really a baby not a baby

I know I've seen a lot of babies and he is not one not a baby I feel totally

scammed totally it's official now yeah yeah what about your end what's what's

the top three going in you know Barry can get Barry can take my top three he

knows my top three we like he doesn't have to look at a lineup he knows what

number one is Brittany Brittany yeah you're ready for number two it's

literally just the people that I know

yeah the ones he's actually spoken to yeah people people I can scam to call my

friends I'm not gonna I know so yeah is it Ed O'Brien is now three he obey yeah

O'Brien at least you have your reasons uh-huh I really want to see that see

you Miley David that's the one I've talked about before that one that one to

me is right up there is the probably not gonna see her anywhere else thing so

that's gonna be that's a big opportunity but there's a long list on that lineup

if it were to happen especially the original lineup for me there's a bunch

of bunch of people to check off on my wish list and over all three of those to

be on those were all good ones you know the thing about what sucks about the

Ed O'Brien thing and I think we might have mentioned it last week if you

haven't listened to the Ed O'Brien interview we posted last week and I give

it a give it a try if you haven't gotten to it but it's it's guys like that that

I feel really bad about I mean this guy you know waited and waited and waited

until it was time to pounce and release his only solo album ever and then do a

tour around it and now I think you'll be okay I think I wouldn't worry about him

too much I care and worry about my friends you know their success is my

success and my future artists pass I will what do you usually do any other

festivals other than other than Bonnarooo no it's usually Bonnarooo we'll hit a

couple concerts and stuff but that's it like we you know speaking of the coming

up the summer we wanted to see David Gray he was coming to Cleveland but you

know I think I'm sure that doesn't been officially canceled or postponed but I

don't see that happening you know last last year we went to see Death Cab over

in Vegas we were out in Vegas for something they happen to be in there so

we just kind of take up the opportunities that we can it's tough in

the Midwest your normal city is Cleveland if you were to go to shows you

it's Cleveland huh Cleveland yeah Cleveland Pittsburgh mostly it's

Cleveland I grew up in in Canton so I that's like 45 minutes away so that's

usually my go-to city I'm trying to think if there's any other music festivals

in and around the Ohio Valley like that what which one am I missing I feel like

there's a really big one in the Ohio Valley and I cannot remember what it was

yeah that was that's been I want to go to is and I was thinking about this year

was the is Wonder Bus in Columbus they started that one a year year so ago and

they had some some good good good vibes coming off that one of course that one

you know who knows what happened in there too because that's it end of

August so well look here's here's the thing and we've mentioned it before but

they got pressure from the city Voodoo Fest did but Voodoo Fest is in the end

of October canceled you know you can you can reschedule you can have

rescheduled date all you want to middle of October if if New Orleans is not

willing to throw a party I don't know anybody else is gonna be willing to yeah

there's I mean they're still seriously talking about college football to your

point and if if those guys are talking about not play and then yeah it's pretty

serious and it's it's again it's just every it's it's as Brad said everybody's

trying to get through the window and the window is closing it keeps getting

smaller and smaller and smaller you could you can you can convince me that

some sports could make sense without audience participation like for instance

golf gonna define baseball actually we probably need this baseball needs you

know a thwart of adrenaline to try and figure out how to make this show better

on TV right this would force them to try and create a better TV product because

nobody's gonna be in the stands I don't know how you do football and you know

big sporting events like that without without audiences and without crowds you

know it's gonna be it's gonna be hard to watch it's gonna be impossible to to

engage with football baseball you know maybe I don't know maybe not soccer but

baseball and golf easy it's easy enough but football yeah festivals get out of

here I don't know how you do that I did hear an interesting conversation about

the Ryder Cup though just because you brought up golf the players don't want

to have it I think it was Roy McIlroy of all the tournaments don't do that one

without fans it kind of it's just be a golf tournament you know which makes

sense yeah yeah there's a difference between like the Ryder open in the

Phoenix open yeah you know nobody really cares man thank you thank you so much

for listening thanks so much for being part of the Bonnarooo family and part of

the what podcast family man we can't thank you enough oh thank you I said

this you guys are great I appreciate you guys doing this because again you guys

are the ramp up to Bonnarooo for me and I know a lot of other people so it's like

first time talking but I feel like I know you guys and you guys are part of

the crew just listen to you guys go back and forth and doing your picks and you

know interviewing people it's it's a lot of fun I tune in every week so I

appreciate it yeah we we try not we try not to have it much different than what

camp would actually be like because I love it it gets big it's brutal and gets

very very brutal yeah yeah you know and Bryan stone keeps coming back keeps

coming back and I don't really know why things have been said to Bryan stone

that I could not imagine and he keeps coming back I mean if I said it to

anyone else they'd pull a gun on me yeah but for Brian it's like okay that's

fine yeah it's probably fair yeah stop yeah stop thanks so much again and you

know hopefully you know if we don't see in 2020 we'll see you see you in

definitely in 2021 buddy definitely thank you so much appreciate it

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I've got the one soul to sell for the blues

Mississippi, Mississippi, Mississippi

Going down to Mississippi

Pain and misery, yeah

Pain and misery, I got

Pain and misery going down to Mississippi

David, a Patreon from the What's Podcast

A podcast for Bonnarooians by Bonnarooians

and expanding into our world of all things open

So, yeah, I mean, with less and less Bonnarooians to talk about

it's gonna basically from here on out just be

fashion advice from Barry

It's gonna be a new thing in everything we've talked about

How to home repair with Barry

How many days can you go with just one pair of shorts?

That's the big question

Well, it depends on if you're wearing them, Barry

Oh, I'm always, yeah

It's not a pretty picture even by myself

Any more Patreons-ery before we head out?

Yep, two more groups, Marty McClide

We've got Andrew McBride, Katherine Mauricio, David Saleno

Janika Marty, Justin Nigro, Meredith Ritman and the Hi5 group

Brooke Tussie, David and Sharla Horton

David, Daniel and Sharla Horton

David Henson, Ella, Phil and I, Sean McCain

With friends like Barry

Out greeting ahead

With Lord Taco for Barry Courter

I'm Brad Steiner, we'll talk to you next week, maybe?

Are we doing one next week? What do we got next week?

We don't have anything lined up

Well, what should we do?

We'll see, your guess is as good as ours

Talk to you then, what podcast? See you later, love you, bye