It's finally here! After two years of cancellations, Bonnaroo is ready to try again in 2022 with its newly revealed lineup. If there's anything that gets festival fans excited, it's lineup day, and The What podcast gang are definitely festival fans.
As soon as the lineup dropped, Barry, Brad, and Lord Taco were on Zoom dishing their reactions to the 2022 Bonnaroo bill. What day are they most excited for? What do they think of Stevie Nicks becoming the first female performer to headline the festival? How do they feel about Machine Gun Kelly's booking?
Find out what they think by listening to The What podcasters react to the Bonnaroo lineup in the latest episode. Listen above, or watch the full video of the podcast below. Then, grab your tickets to Bonnaroo 2022 here.
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The most glorious day of the year is here, but will it live up to two years of waiting and two lineups that blew our minds? What will the 2022 Bonnaroo lineup have in store for us? We do a deep dive line by line today on the Season 5 premiere of The What Podcast It's Lineup Day, kids! Brad Steiner, Barry Porter, Lauren Taco Remember What Podcast starts right now! The most magical day of the year is Lineup Day The What Podcast, which bands this year that matter, it's Lord Taco, Barry Courter, I'm Brad Steiner I can't believe it's actually here We're good at the lineup part, Barry, we're not so good at the festival part I don't know if we can do lineups all the time In fact, let's do a few more lineups It doesn't really mean we're going to have a festival That's true We've got lots and lots of practice We've got the lineup thing down Now we have to actually do this Yeah, point out again, the longest running podcast about an event that hasn't happened It hasn't happened, sure I can't believe it's actually happening And there's a part of me that... Maybe, I don't know, maybe I'm alone on this But boy, I have tapped out for so long on this kind of stuff I didn't follow any of the rumors I didn't follow any of the leaks Up until yesterday, the day before, a week ago I just been tapped out And I kind of would suggest that to a lot of people Because it's been glorious not worrying about this I'm so glad to hear you say that Because I thought, man, what am I missing here? Am I just that old? Which I know you're going to say I am Well, I'll be honest with you I tweeted this out earlier I miss Blam Do you remember Blam and how fun that was? Where we all got together and hung out We all went to Mellow Mushroom that one week Or that one night And we had a big lineup reveal party We watched Blam together and called a phone number And every time we called, we got a different person on the lineup It was so much fun And now we just wait around until noon Well... And then we have fun talking about it And then we rethink it a week later Talk about it some more Yeah, I get really excited and say it's the greatest lineup ever Then two weeks go by and I'm like, man, I really hate this Yeah, I'm never going again You're never going again, you're going to hate it Alright, so the lineup is out Should we do this first? What do you want to do first? We've done this as our fifth year And I thought maybe we should do a quick sort of What do you call it in the biz? A reset There might be people who don't know who we are And why we're here and what we're talking about The reset should be my hair, I just rolled out of bed What's going on here, guys? Is it alright? Do we need to start over while you go fix that? Yeah, so you do the reset I'll leave that up to you, it's all you, Barry Well, I'm Barry I work for the Chanukah Times Free Press Brad is in radio Brad Steiner works for... No, no Brad with the hair What is your program? What is your title? Yeah, program director, operations and radio cluster in New Orleans And Baton Rouge But that's... Russ is in the ring gold in the bus? Yeah, in the bus as always Yeah, I don't really do anything, I just sit in the bus and drink PBR all day My man Carries it, carries us But we've been going, Brad and I combined almost 30 years It's a 15 each or so I mean, I will say it's pretty amazing that this is the start of season five I mean, this is not something that we never anticipated doing it More than a year We just wanted something to do Yeah, if you're just now joining We started this in 2017 2018 2018, just to talk about how much we love the festival The logistics of it Because that year the lineup was light and we had nothing else to talk about Right And we found that people all over the country and even the world like it as much as we do And in the last year, it's developed... you're going to fidget with that What is going on with my hair? What is happening here today? And we just figured out that a lot of people like not only Bonnaroo but all kinds of festivals as much as we do So that's why we are here. Consequence picked us up What? 8, 9, 10 months ago we're part of their network Because they like music and festivals too So anyway, I just thought if somebody just dropped in like who the heck are these guys? Who are these idiots? These are these mooks That's how we got here What's a mook? I'm sorry, Barry, that's the mooks Mooks That would be the mooks It's a good band name, wouldn't it? Yeah I will say, you know, maybe it's because of the two years that we've gone through this The lead up to this for me, I insinuated earlier I just have not been into it I really have not been into it And I guess, you know, I found out a week ago where the big rumor was that the Dixie chicks were going to be our first female headliner after, you know, Lizzo was on the lineup twice I mean, I read that and I was like, there's no possible way that that in 2021 that is a relevant headliner And I'll start there I think that if we were to pick a name that was available to be your first female headliner, Lizzo was not the one I think we will all, you know, settled on Stevie Nicks being that's appropriate It's pretty solid pick That's appropriate Even though I've heard from so many people that go to her shows and say, you know, it's really 50-50 If you get her on a night where she's doing some Fleetwood Mac stuff, you're fine But if she's doing her stuff, it is a snooze fest So I have no idea what to expect, but I'm betting that's, you know I would hope because of the history of Bonnaroo and that Sunday night, you know, legacy act doing just hit after hit after hit, I hope At least, you know You know, it's interesting She's in that She's in that same stratosphere Stevie Wonder used to be that way Bob Dylan that way Van Morrison, you know, just depends on what you get Yeah, just depends But another one, by the way, Van Morrison, another one I just I can't believe they haven't made a call You know, Van Morrison just seems like he would fit a Saturday afternoon so perfectly at Bonnaroo That's way up there on my list Yeah, me too Okay, so I start with Stevie Nicks and I'll just go through your first impressions and then we'll go line by line What do you think so far after you spent here at, you know, 10 o'clock in the morning on a light day We got it a little bit early. So looking at it, I think your first reaction was and then more I'd talk to and I looked and talked while you were getting set up There's a it's not top heavy for me Stevie Nicks is a is definite. I want to see the others. I will go and see The second line and then some of the undercar people. There's a lot in there for me. Robert Plant and Alison Krauss I've seen she's always terrific and you know, he's an icon. So you got to go see it. King Gizzard. I'm glad to see on their goose. We've been talking about since their virtual Bonnaroo Japanese breakfast owes us a do over Kristen Moroni is on there. We like Isaiah Rashad's Chattanooga guy. Well, hang on a second. You're going way too fast. Start to start with your initial impression. Your initial impressions is that even though the top doesn't do anything for you, there's nothing there that you like, huh? On the top. Well, in the whole festival, you mid card down, you feel like there's enough in there for you. Oh, enough in there. Yeah, I thought you said nothing. Yeah, there's enough in there. And I fully expect to find some folks that I, you know, are new to me. So, yeah, I would talk to. It's good. There's there's enough, I think, from 2020 and 2021 to kind of like slide in there that, you know, will be good to pick up that we didn't get to see. There's something every day that I'm interested in. So I think it's my initial impression was, man, I really feel old for the first time in my Bonnaroo life. This makes me feel very old. It won't be the last time. What's that? Yeah, I know. It won't be the last time I am. That because I was thinking about this goes back to what you were saying earlier, where you sort of checked out. I mean, there's there's a lot of I wonder how many new acts have come along in the last two and a half years that I just don't know about because I've sort of checked out. Well, I mean, look, I think the first impression of this and maybe a lot of these that you don't know, Barry, is because a lot of these this is the most electronic heavy lineup that they've ever put out. And I think that if you're electronic music fan, this is just a dream come true for you. If you are a if you're a classic Bonnaroo person, you probably want to throw up all over your clothes. So, you know, it's going to have it's going to I have a feeling it's going to be really polarizing. And, you know, at first pass and I am going to reserve the right to change my mind. But at first pass of this, it feels like when your ex starts dating someone else, when you start looking around and you're like, oh, they've moved on because this doesn't feel like the same festival that I was so excited about two years ago. The lineup that came out two years ago is one of the greatest festival lineups we've ever seen. And it never came to fruition. So we got a watered down version of it last year. And now it feels like there's just it's totally different. I mean, this feels like a an operation that's not being ran by the guys. Yeah, the same people anymore. Better or worse. I don't know. But this doesn't feel like the Bonnaroo lineups of old. All right, I'll give you that. Yeah, there's some there's some lanes in there. There's some acts in there that feel like Bonnaroo of old, but probably not percentage wise to your point. I'll give you that. And, you know, some of that has to happen. I mean, we've both done it enough that there have been several years where I felt like that or the put it this way, the perception from the masses was that that's what's happened. This is not the same Bonnaroo. Yeah, well, they've done that several times. Well, I think recency bias comes into play with a lot of this stuff. And that's why it's always the worst lineup ever. The greatest lineup ever. You know, we we have this recency bias that only accounts for this amount of time that's ever existed in the history of time. So, you know, I don't want to go crazy and say, you know, worst, greatest anything. It's just, you know, first off, if anybody thinks that booking a festival at this point in the world is easy. Look at Coachella Coachella is is the stories that I've heard come out of Coachella as to why this band pulled out or this artist doesn't want to do it or this person's asking for this. I mean, it's so bat shit crazy Barry that I don't even want to repeat it because it could. It doesn't sound right. I mean, the demands on the writers that are changing on the daily so that, you know, one person gets this and what the other person gets that because the ex of the girlfriend of the boyfriend. It's nutty the stuff that I've heard come out of Coachella just in that world. It's hard to book but imagine now try to, you know, add covert on top of it. And, you know, budgets being slashed in half. I don't know how you book a lineup, to be honest with you. I this. So just putting something out. Congratulations. You deserve all the credit in the world. Yeah, I totally agree and I keep thinking of our conversation with Stephen and Brian several years ago for that amazing lineup, you know, when you had two guys doing it. And there was no covert everything was pretty much, you know, they could not pick and choose but a lot more so than today. So I agree. I mean, I can't imagine what all they've had to deal with people changing their minds acts, breaking up, you know, moving on, going over, whatever. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I, you can you can put it, you can put it when the covert bucket if you want to but you know there is, if you just go with surface level here. It's a tad schizophrenic. This lineup is a tad schizophrenic in some ways sometimes it's really good. You know you can find a lot of different bizarre things when it's this schizophrenic but man, when you have. I don't know what the rationale with booking machine gun Kelly is, but there's no world where I understand it. You could you can sell me on a million different things but there is nobody in this industry that makes me scratch my head more than machine gun Kelly. And frankly, if it if the argument was a ticket play. I don't really even know if he's if he sells that many tickets. He didn't not every one of his tour dates was sold out on his tour for his for his latest album. He came to New Orleans, and, you know, I the report was before it got shut down because of covert that they sold less than 5000 tickets for, you know, 15,000. You know person festival. I don't really understand the rationale because he fits nothing that this festival is about, you know tool and Stevie Nicks are the closest they may be the chicks even I mean you could even convince me that the chicks fit more about what the Bonnaroo mentality is supposed to be than than any of them, but the rest of it, I'm really struggling to figure out if this is a Bonnaroo lineup or just another festival lineup. Does that make sense. Yeah, or what you know, best they could do this year. I'm okay with just about every day I know only two names on Thursday I'll be honest with you but we all know Thursday is discovery day so that doesn't bother me. I'm giving you one right now, the dip right down the dip right down that is a fun show. That is another song by Freak Nasty. Yeah, it's what you nicknamed your. But, you know, the other one that makes me laugh is, I don't want to. Okay, I'm just going to say it and if I get in trouble I get in trouble but how the brook and the bluff still makes their way to festivals is beyond comprehension to me I know that the guys might be very nice people but the people that are their representatives, they have done the best sales job on this band that I've ever. I've ever seen because there's just, there's just no metrics to back this up yet they find themselves on every festival lineup in the world I okay. So, now you want to see him. Yeah, well, you had him in Chattanooga we did him at, we did him for the, the first Moon River Festival, they were there. They were there at Shakenese too. Are you saying they left their way in. Well, you know if you wanted a nice nap in the middle of the day. That's your band. That's the guys for you. God love them though I mean I don't mean to dog on them it's just it's it's pretty remarkable they keep finding themselves on festival. So, alright so that's my initial impression I don't want to dislike it but the mere fact that Machine Gun Kelly is on a lineup makes me so uncomfortable, because he just doesn't fit anything that's that that festivals about the second band that sticks out like a sore thumb for me. And it's because of some recent news that came out about their guitar player, and some underage girls that was that he was accused of all time low has gone through it the last six months, and they've seen a lot of their shows get canceled they've seen a lot of their shows become under attended. Now I don't know if that's because of coven but also they've got some serious stuff out there, accusations against the guitar player with underage girls now. A lot of that could be incorrect, but it is very surprising that Bonnaroo is, you know, rolling the dice, especially when they have a very female presentation on their top line I'll put it this way down few presentation, but they are definitely making sure that they put females. First, for the first time. Now by the way, does that mean Lizzo is the first ever female headliner, or will Stevie Nicks be the first ever female headliner even though Lizzo actually didn't perform. Yeah, depends on how we define it. Probably gonna, I mean, she that it could be written that Lizzo was the first female artist book as a headliner for sure. By guys like me. Yeah, but Stevie will be the first to have actually done it. If it happens. Okay, so those are my first two thoughts now I'll go, let's just start with the headliners. You know there's not much that you're going to get from us on these headliners you know you're not looking at the biggest tool fans. You're not looking at hip hop fans. I'm excited about tool I'm glad they made on there. Yeah, are you. Yeah, I'm going to go see him. I'm not a huge fan but doing you know, went, listening back to some stuff. And I could, I could definitely hear them on the farm, they fit what sure what you and I talk about all the time. Sure, you know, you can hear it in that big field for sure. I agree. You know, and I Stevie Nicks like I've said icon I want to see J Cole. I listened to one song and you know my, I really only have one or two rules. I don't have no misogyny and, you know, I'm not a big. If you can't think of a better word. I don't I don't want to hear it so I won't be there. Yeah. Well, J Cole has what I really don't like being this negative I really don't but by all accounts that the J Cole show was one of the one of the worst of maybe a Bonnaroo history. I just don't know many people that that had positive things to say about that show but I mean if you went and you liked it then more power to you. It's surprising that they that they bring that kind of stuff back. It was instead of going through Thursday. Any thoughts on any of the other headliners any of the top lines, the chicks, a lineum flume 21 Savage machine gun Kelly Roddy rich it's almost as if they created three, three headliners each day that perfectly fit each other. Okay. You know my, my, I said to you yesterday when we thought the chicks were going to be on the lineup. And I think you're right in that it does feel like they were going to get a female headliner, and they, they probably found Stevie. And I don't know what the chicks show is these days but my first thought was, I don't want to be coming out of this two and a half years and be preached at. And you see, you didn't see him at the Moon River. I thought they were great. They moon checks. Yeah, no, no, no no no no no no no no no no. I don't know who you're thinking of but are you thinking about Brandi Carlile. Oh no it was the, it was the, oh, baby Barry it's that band that female band that you love so much. I don't know if the Dixie chicks have done a show in. I wouldn't even know where to guess, I couldn't tell you the last time the Dixie chicks did an actual show I mean they put it on an album and I don't think anybody cared. I don't think they do anymore but they did an album and I don't know if anybody really even paid attention to it I don't even think they toured on it. So, you know, again, very odd poll but again, I will say, I think it actually is one of the more inspired choices because of where it lands now if you put it in the same slot as Stevie Nicks we probably have some problems but I have no problem with the chicks being 1234567 down, I don't have any problem with that. No, it'll be. It could be a good show could be a lot of fun. My only hesitation is is I just don't want to be preached at. I don't care who that is. Who the artist is. I'm going to tell you, you know, I know that that my first initial impressions, they're all painted. I'm going to be very honest it's all painted by machine gun Kelly. So, you know, again I reserved the right to have this lineup grow on me but my initial impression is so much on comfort and or discomfort rather because of machine gun Kelly but let's go through Friday which you know for a guy like me there's a there's a lot of plant Alison Krauss, I think disclosure is going to sound fine, Lord here on to me is. I've had my moments with them the war on drugs you know I love with all of my heart. He's just so creative I love this album so much as one of my favorite albums of the year King gets it is a band that we've been targeting for years goose, ever since seeing them on the stream was great. bleachers and Jack Antonoff gets a rough go of it by some people. But I went, he used to be the guitar player for fun. Fun was the only band in the history of Bonnaroo to have a number one single while they were playing Bonnaroo. Right. That in of itself is incredible. And they were one of the biggest last minute additions on the Bonnaroo poster, maybe, you know, ever, you know, there's not been a lot of, you know, high level additions at the last minute, like Jimmy Buffett is one of them. But fun was one of those last minute additions and Jack Antonoff got his first, you know, Bonnaroo that year with fun. Now Jack Antonoff is back not only doing the bleacher show, but also the super jam. I have no idea what Jack Antonoff's 1984 is, but the dude's creative, the dude knows what he's doing and I don't hate the new bleachers album. I don't hate it. You know, I know it, it, it's polarizing to some people, but you know, it could be a lot worse. Like you said, Isaiah Rashad, Chattanooga kid, uh, came out of nowhere at least an hour, even in our city, people didn't see that coming. Right. Big, big, what hit six months ago. Yeah. So that's a good one. He's on the third line on Friday. Yeah. I'm excited. That's incredible. I'm excited to see it. He's got to be the biggest Chattanooga artist to ever play Bonnaroo. Oh, gotta be. Yeah. I can't think of anybody bigger at this point. Uh, so then still woozy and I haven't even left the third line yet. I love still woozy. So now you go to the next line, uh, Denzel Curry and Japanese breakfast, Tovlo day glow, and then I think it's going to be the crown jewel of Friday. I am in love with Arlo parks. She had one of my favorite songs of the year. I love that album so much. Oh man. Arlo parks early in the afternoon show on Friday will be the first time, the first show of the weekend that really gets me going. Um, is the man, if I stress anything to you, Barry taco, go listen to Arlo parks. But let me come back to, uh, Japanese breakfast for a second, because you said earlier, we are owed a do-over. Uh, she's a good girl. Uh, she's had an amazing, Michelle's going to be on the show with us this season. And she's had a pretty amazing year. Not only she's, you know, had an album that has been critically acclaimed by every hipster, you know, magazine blog on the planet, but also she's got a number one New York times bestseller. She wrote a book as well. Um, I can't wait to ask her how the diff, what the difference is between the band from three years ago and they played Bonnaroo to now, because one of the most odd, one of the most odd shows we have ever been to as a group was watching Japanese breakfast take 40 minutes to sound check and then to play 25 minutes afterwards and their set was over. Yeah. Yeah. That's no exaggeration at all. That's exactly what happened. It was so strange. And, and every time we looked around, they're like, well, there was a, there was a hip hop guy that played before. And I kept wondering, it's like, I thought they were like the first ones on the stage. They were pretty, if they weren't first, they were second. They were second. Like how this was so strange. And the reason why I never bought that as an excuse was I watched them do. The, uh, Hey bell, Hey bell station. Sorry. Hey bell sessions backstage, right? Inside the trailer, there's like two or three people, they get to sit in there and watch you record something for Bonnaroo radio and they had done that. And I swear to God, had they not spent half an hour sound checking, I wouldn't have believed you that they'd spent half an hour sound checking on the main, on this tent. So there was something just not connecting in that space. And for them to come back to Bonnaroo, I am so intrigued with what her, what that transition was like and how different that band must be now. Yeah. I agree. It was weird when it taco. I mean, it was intentional. It wasn't like something broke or, you know, they were trying to hurry. It was they took their time and they took their time. Yeah. And over and over and over. Oh my gosh. It was pretty brutal. It was like, are we getting trolled? Like, is this real? Like, should we go somewhere else and do something else? Like what's going on? It was so strange. You remember you tell them the show started, you know, how, when you're watching a band sound check and then they start playing a song and like, okay, they got it figured out now it's time to do it. Nope. Nope. They kept doing that over and over and over. They were playing snippets of songs. Like, is this, is this like a remix? Yeah. You know, St. Paul came out what the next year and did a sound check and we all kind of went crazy, but it was about 30 seconds or maybe 60 seconds and he just kind of waved and went back off stage. And then they started that. That's even unusual. But the Japanese breakfast thing was crazy. I've never seen anything like that. I'm going to go to the next line on a, on Friday, because there's some interesting stuff here. So Ty Verde's the regrets, Briston Moroni. Weren't there regrets on Thursday last year, the year before? No, that was like five years ago, Barry. Has it been that long? Four years ago, we interviewed the regrets backstage at Bonnaroo and it was one of the most odd chats we've ever had. And they were children. I mean, I don't give them any blame in this whatsoever. We were more to blame than anybody, but it was, we were very unprepared. It sounded terrible. And we were talking to children, literal children. And I, I felt really bad about the interview. We didn't air it. And now they actually have a year that's, I mean, this year could be a really big year for them. They've got a song that's starting to move on alternative radio. My station's playing it. We have a show with them in a month. They seem to have their shit together and especially the people that back them. I mean, she's, she's like best friends with Billie Eilish, you know? So she's got Phineas connections. So they're set up to have a really good run here. That's the one I would watch. But the, of course, Briston Moroni has been on the show before. Ty Verde is a, he'll probably be on the show this year. This kid's, you know, sort of a pop alternative act. He's got a pretty big hit of a pop song. He's got a pretty big hit at pop radio, but the one I want to, the other one I want to point you to other than Arlo Parks on Friday, I love Claude. C-L-A-U-D. I love her. I love her. I love her. Talk about another song that was in my top fives of the year. She's incredible. My buddy, Chris Muckley at Sirius XMU is probably the guy that found her and started blowing her up on, on, on Sirius XMU. But man, I know there's in my own, I can talk out of both sides of my mouth here. I know that I'm irritated and sort of uncomfortable with, with machine gun Kelly and Jay Cole and Roddy Rich and Flume, 21 Savage, but you know, I started digging in on Friday. That's a lot. Yeah. I mean, I just ran around 15 bands that I could watch on Friday. That's what I'm saying. It's, it's, it's better than, than at the first blush. All right. Yeah, there's definitely. All right. You want to take Saturday? You want to, what do you think about Saturday? Saturday is probably for me, the, the, not weaker. It's the one where I know fewer people. Okay. Tool, like I said, I can picture them on the farm and definitely want to check it out. Billy strings, you know, talking about zeitgeist, I know what, two years ago, he was, he was everybody's next big thing or one of them, Mark Rubio, that is, was on what the last two or one. Look, I don't care what anybody says about Mark. That dude's show is so fun. Yeah. Yes, you can, you can dog him out all you want to for being a goofball or whatever, but that show is a blast. It is an absolute blast. Yeah. And then, uh, Ludacris I'll go, that's a, for sure. I got to check out. All right. Well, I'm gonna stop you at Ludacris because there's other ones, you know, in there that, that I want to talk to talk about before you get to Ludacris, like for instance, churches, churches canceling, you know, their Germany dates to come over to, uh, American do, uh, to do Bonnaroo, Mount Joy. Also been on the show before, uh, but Ludacris, would you rather have Nellie or Ludacris Ludacris me personally in the letter, Chris, but we've already seen the show. It was, he was just here. You saw it. I didn't see it. He just did this. Yeah, I didn't see it. And what has he done between then and now to make that show any different again? Um, these are part of the thing that I like about this festival and festivals in general is that I, I wouldn't buy a ticket for, you know, 90% of them are 95, but the fact that I can see him, uh, along with everything else, it's worth, it's worth checking out. I know, but I think you're missing my point. He was just at Bonnaroo. You know, that's one of those things that comes up every time I see him. You know, that's one of those things that comes up every now and then with Bonnaroo fans, but they repeat acts all the time. I know that, but most, most acts like Dua Lipa, Dua Lipa, who was there one year and then came back the next year to get on the main stage, at least put an album out that year. Fair enough. What is Ludacris? I just can't, I can't answer. I don't know. I don't know what the show is going to be different. I don't know what's different about the show. I have no idea. Okay. Um, so then you get Judah and lion and Mount joy, and then we come to, uh, uh, all time low, uh, by the way, Mount joy, I'm sorry, Judah and lion's going to be on, uh, this season with us. Um, I like slow tie. Slow tie is a really fun one. And then you come to ash. Ash has got a, uh, a little bit of heat, especially in the west coast. Uh, the, uh, the LA kids really liked the ash. Uh, she's got some Phineas connections as well. Uh, and then, you know, our, our old favorite from years and years and years ago, I think it might even be the very first ever root clue is the pigeons playing pin ping pong. Um, somebody might with, with a better historical accuracy, tell me if pigeons playing ping pong was the first ever root clue, but I think that they might be. That's how long they've, uh, they've been around and how much the Bonnaroo people love them. Yeah. That's yeah, that's, that's our champion. That's the only one left on the list that I have any clue about to be really, well, let me introduce you to backseat lovers. I like these guys a lot. Um, they could, they can get into, they don't jam, but they get into some long, um, pieces, uh, really good rock outfit. I think they, they deserved a better shot at radio. Um, they've got a song called Kilby girl that I'm a big, big fan of. Uh, and I outfit. What are you? Dick Clark all of a sudden. He's a tall drink of water. I say that's a good little combo. These guys. Uh, and then, uh, Femi Kuti, Femi Kuti, um, uh, and then, oh, our boy, Patrick Dronie is back. Do you remember Patrick Dronie? I do remember the name. Yeah, I do. Yeah. Three years. Was it three years ago? We, we, we brought this name up. We're like, who is Patrick Dronie? And then we ended up liking the song. Didn't we even have him on the show? Did we talk to Patrick Dronie? I don't know if we talked to him. I don't know. Yeah, I did like it. I think we actually had that kid on the air. I think. Well, we said we were going to remember, we say we're going to have a big meetup at the Patrick Dronie show. Didn't we? Was that it? I mean, it might've been, but we never went to the show. Davey was the Davey. Davey was the Davey. But we actually never went to the Patrick Dronie show, even though he's got that one song that we all seem to like that none of us can remember. We're not going to remember it. He's a good singer, man. I like that. He's a good singer songwriter. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Now, again, I go through this and we're all the way to Sunday and I've skipped over every electronic act and I'm sorry about that. I just don't have it. I don't, I don't have the combination to the lock that is electronic music. I have been very open about this. I don't know any of these artists and I don't necessarily think I should be talking about something that I have no idea. Yeah. I don't think we have to apologize either. I mean, you can't like everything. Which is not my lane. I mean, I just don't know who Shipwreck is. No, I, I think I don't apologize. I mean, you know, you can't like everything. You can't know everything. And it always bothers me when people try to act like, oh yeah, I know that. Oh, you don't know. You don't know. Yeah. I know. Comment. I'll do it. I quit trying to do that a long time ago because I kept getting caught. Yeah. Oh my God. I did one the other day. Oh, I felt like the biggest asshole. I was talking to a record guy. I'm not even going to say the band. I'm not going to say the band, but I was so convinced. Okay. I was so convinced the certain sound of this band. And he's like, are you sure you're not talking about blankety blank? Like, no, no, it is not like that. It is not like that. It is not like that. No, no, it is not like that. And then I did a quick Google search and I couldn't have been more wrong. Yeah. You know, I could not have been more wrong. I, you know, I thought that like insert how just title who was his roof is the soul. I got it so completely wrong. I thought it was like some sort of like, oh, forget it. It doesn't matter. Like I said, I've done it myself. Many times I get to Sunday and I think to me, the one that stands out and the one that if there's a can't miss on Sunday, I mean, who would pass up the opportunity of seeing her be Hancock who, who would do this talk about an absolute banger parade that is going to be the most fun show of the entire weekend. And I don't know if anybody will talk about it. Um, well, it may, it may fall in that, uh, Lionel Richie, uh, category where you don't think people, you know, but, but Bonnaroo folks are a pretty intelligent crowd, most of them know their history and between, uh, he and Stevie Nicks, man, that's a lot of rock and roll music history right there. So yeah, it don't pass up seeing her be, um, with that being said, uh, the artist that I love the most on this day is Nathaniel Rateliff, um, I'm obsessed with Nathaniel right. I love the new album. Plus I just love walking around the house screaming son of a bitch son of a one bitch son of one bitch. I can't stop doing it. What do you do for a living? I'm that guy. I'm the son of a bitch guy. And they, yeah, right. I love, I love the idea of just walking down the street, looking like the way that he looks and somebody just screaming son of a bitch. Yeah. I want to see that one. And I, and I have a feeling that, that you'll find Nathaniel Rateliff, if he's there throughout the weekend, he'll pop up everywhere. That dude just loves playing and he just, he just, just doesn't need much. You know, he's just one of those guys that just shows up and can be cool, look cool, act cool, play cool. Everything about him is, is just the personification of cool. I want to see all them witches too. Me too. That's that's been on my list. Okay. Um, so you got a, of course, res, pacifier, wallows, um, sort of a, um, I mean, I don't want to get too crazy here and mean, but a little bit of a whiny alt rock band, uh, Tash Sultana. Oh God, I love her. She's just a day. She might be a day. Be honest with you. I don't know the proper pronoun, but incredible artists, coin from Nashville, Nashville's own coin. Um, you know, they're expecting. Were they not talking? They were. Yes, they were. They were expecting some big things out of them. And then, um, a girl that I met in Miami years and years ago, her name is Fletcher, she had a massive hit like three, four years ago. Um, and just really, I really hasn't been able to capture that lightning in a bottle again. Um, I kind of think that she wants to be, if you remember the artist a couple of years ago, banks, um, you know, she's got a little bit of that in her. Uh, the jaded ex-girlfriend route is sort of her angle. And, um, I really hope she does well, cause I find her to be just an absolute sweetheart, uh, who, who, you know, in fact, did I have her running of the chihuahuas? I was just thinking that I think I did ask you, I think I might have, I'm almost sure that you did. I might've done that. That's true. She's been here and I'm pretty sure you, you radio station brought her here. I think so. Um, you have the lettuce in there too. And, um, that's about all I can talk about on Sunday. Um, you, you, you skipped over Prucifer real quick, but that's another Maynard. That's another Maynard band. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's a, that's a Lord taco angle. I, uh, I, I, I couldn't, I don't think I could pick out one of their songs. I mean, I really have, I have a tough time. I don't know how many, I don't know how many of their songs we could say on the show. Oh yeah. I smell a game. I smell a game coming. Nice. See, we all found, we all found enough. And, uh, like I said, we haven't even done the deep dive yet. So, uh, you know, there'll be some acts on there that I know I will have never heard of that I'll end up liking, but you might be right. They might be a whole lot more EDM than I'm aware of. There's no babies. There's no babies on this line. A little no babies. It's really a good point. There is not one baby for Lord taco. I don't see one baby. I don't see any little babies, da babies. I don't see them. It's hard to do in this day and age. I mean, why do they hate babies? Yeah. What is the bonders anti baby policy? They're anti baby heights. Somebody get them on the phone right now and figure out why they hate babies so much. I know. Why are they so, uh, babies? Why do you hate babies? Why do you have babies so much? Uh, dear, dear Ashley caps. What is your problem with babies? He leaves and they hate. What is your problem with babies? I'm looking through some, some pussifer, uh, song titles. I don't see anything that's too outrageous here. Bullet train to Iowa, the underwhelming kill mom, kill dad, kill, kill, kill, kill. What would you wait? Is that not real? I don't see anything. I don't see anything too, too crazy here, but yeah, that's a, that's a Maynard. There's another Maynard band. I think it would be fun. So I don't have a problem with tool. I really don't. And, and look, I, I mean, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm I'm pretty honest and forthright when it comes to the, you know, things that I like and dislike on the show, but, uh, tool is always difficult for me because I was never able to tell the difference between tool and nine inch nails. I always had a difficult time deciphering the two and yeah. And there was just a moment in the world where, you know, the tool sound, the nine inch nails sound, and you could probably even get to like Marilyn Manson and, and on, I just never got there. Right. And never connected. I was on a different plane. I was in, you know, I was on neutral, my hotel and death cab and the shins and, you know, whiny, you know, angsty shit like that. I was never into the tool and that side of it. So I don't know much to say about it. Unfortunately. Um, yeah. I, so, like I said, I get it. I have to punt to other people when it comes to stuff like this. There's a whole period of music that I missed because I was, you know, raising babies or whatever. So I understand, you know, or my, maybe we can get raising babies for the lineup. Raising babies. Yeah. Right. There's your baby. So, so Barry is not anti-baby. I'm very not anti-baby. That's very, it's pro baby. Yeah. I am a baby. So I'm pro baby. I will be that baby. Um, uh, anything else? And let's go through any more. Oh yeah. The super jam. And then finally the super jam of Jack Antonov. Um, I boy, uh, they are really milking Jack Antonov. Uh, there's something in me that thinks that he might just find himself somewhere else, like a, uh, you know, like a, like a campground. It's late at night doing something. Um, something tells me they're going to parade him around like the Haley Williams of 2022. Probably. I'm trying to look through the rest of the release that we got early to see if there's any big news. Well, you know, we'll come back and talk about the camps and the, all those things. Tickets go on sale Thursday, uh, for people who don't know. The one I don't know that I am immediately intrigued by black tiger sex machine. Give me some more black tiger sex machine. I do see that, uh, they've added, uh, Chattanooga shuttles. Really? How about that? Look at you. That's new to my knowledge. I've had from Nashville, but now they're adding from Chattanooga. So, well, they added that last year, but last year didn't happen. So they were happy. And the people are still waiting on that bus to go. Still sitting, they're still standing out there. Yeah. I paid for it. Um, but yeah, we'll get into all that later. And several other things, uh, we've, I talked to long time listeners. We'll remember the name, Jeff quay are he's no longer with live nation or AC, but he has been with, had been with the festival since its beginning, uh, has changed jobs. So he'll be a guest coming up. I'm looking forward to that. He has, we'll have some great insights into the industry and changes and how it's developed and where it's going and all that. Um, and we officially, and it's officially the start of season five, huh? This was it. That is correct. Season five, episode one. What are the big, uh, what are the changes? I have a new set. Um, uh, we have, we don't have it. We haven't added a new character. Do we have a love triangle this year? Is there, I'm trying to think like what happens on the OC and the new season. So, Oh, am I added a dog? Hey, dog, Marigold, huh, baby? Um, there's a, there's no dashboard. So I won't, I won't, I won't, I won't, I won't, I won't. I have a dashboard, so I won't, I won't, uh, pick up a dashboard mom, unfortunately. You know, the news just came out this morning. Dashboard and Jimmy world are coming to New Orleans. I saw that March, March 21st. You ready? Uh, maybe a lot of moms, there was a lot of moms. I wonder who the mom act is for this. Oh yeah. Let's see. You know, you know what? I bet that you would do really well with Dixie chick moms. I bet there's going to be a lot of moms at the chick show. Wear that PBR hat. That'd be up. Nothing right now. Nothing since thighs, a quiver. And we also should mention, uh, I don't know when, if it'll be this week or next or how soon, but we'll be talking about some of the other festivals too. Right. The other lineup announcements. I mean, if Coachella ever happens, we'll see, uh, you know, there, there have been a few that have come out over the last couple of weeks that I'm actually really intrigued by somebody's going to have to explain to me what FYF festival is. Um, I don't know how do you, I don't, is it Fife? I've never heard of it. So I don't know, but this lineup is absolutely incredible. It has got everything that I've ever wanted in a festival lineup in one place. Um, I, I'd love to sort of dive into that one because I don't know what it is. I've never heard of it. And it's somewhere in, in LA, uh, there's a Redondo beach, uh, festival. That's nothing but 90s bands. It's like smashing pumpkins, 311 and then weezer. Oh, and black pumas. Like it just the weirdest combination. But boy, if you love the nineties head to Redondo beach. Um, yeah, there's a, there's a few more. Oh, and then the other thing that I found out is, is churches is going to be doing a whole bunch of festivals, including, uh, ACL later on this year, like they were, I mean, I think churches was there last year too. Um, but you got the ACL festival coming. I just don't think that, you know, voodoo is happening. Um, you know, the book who lineup is out, you know, there's, there's several other festivals that are coming, but the big one to drop is, is Coachella and the fact that they can't seem to find a third headliner, uh, has gotten everybody here. Let me ask you guys this as, as Bonnaroo lifers, if what was happening with Bonnar, if it was happening at Coachella right now is happening with Bonnaroo, how panicked would you be? Um, I panicked, doesn't enter into it anymore. I mean, after what we've been through, no, I mean, you know, we've joked about it every year, lineup comes out. We love it. Week later, we hate it. Three months later, we're not going because they've changed the entire universe around and they're screwing us all up and then we go and it's great. So I just don't even worry about it. Or no, not like that. Um, every, I mean, if it was two years ago, it would be concerning, but so much has happened, like you said at the beginning of the show that I just, you know, it's wait and see panic when it happens to me anymore, or if, if panic is even the right word, but I understand what you're saying, but it's just, you know, adapt. I don't know how else to put it. I mean, I, I get it. I'm going to come back to this one more time. Uh, first off, uh, I think that I'd be really panicked and very confused if I was a Coachella lifer, like we are Bonnaroo lifer, I can't imagine what they're going through where every day they think they're getting a lineup and then every day they're like, Oh, we lost another headliner. Start over. Um, but man, I keep coming back to this. This festival is about acceptance. It's about love. It's about, um, community. It's about taking care of each other. All of the, the wonderful things that we pull out of Bonnaroo and one of their headliners is machine gun Kelly. I mean, I just can't get around that. I can't get around it. I did change in the subject, but you reminded me, uh, I've had several conversations this week with people involved and you know, we along with everyone else has raised the issue of communication, what happened, you know, with Bonnaroo, they're always so great at communicating, marketing, social media, all of that stuff. And the reality is just like we thought they're just been short staffed. And when, um, when the thing started back up, it was, you know, um, drinking from a fire hydrant type of stuff. They had too much to do. Um, so just what we thought it was, I don't, it wasn't, you know, a conspiracy. It was just not enough people to do the job at hand. Sure. So, you know, I mean, I just going forward. I mean, that's why I think that any lineup that you put out in the environment on the scale of Bonnaroo or Coachella, you know, is, is a win. Congratulations. I mean, you get all the credit in the world, uh, for being able to put something together. Yeah. Um, but I mean, I really could, I mean, I, this lineup would have been fine for me. If when name was, you're not going to let that go. I'm not going to let it go. I really just can't let it go. I'll tell you, we had this, like I interviewed him. I interviewed him about a, uh, about a year ago in deep, deep, deep, deep quarantine, and, um, I just, I've never like the, you know, I get it. I, I, I've asked you, I don't understand. I was doing laundry. I'll put it that way. The guy was doing laundry during the interview, you know, like on video, like emptying out his dryer. I mean, multitask. I mean, it's impressive. The man doing his own laundry. I mean, honestly, oh, and the other thing too, I've never seen going Kelly, I will say he loves New Orleans. He actually owns a house in New Orleans. He was filming a movie here with Pete Davidson for a while. And, um, so weird. You say that, man. I was going to say that's the one act I don't get. I've told you that before. I don't understand what his talent is. I don't understand why we talk about him ever. Yeah. I mean, he was, we're Saturday live. I mean, he was a pretty good comic. I don't know what he does on Saturday night. Well, anyway, that's just me. That's my one. So they're, they're doing a movie here and they always end up at this bar in uptown called the saint and he loved this bar so much. He bought a house across the street. And that's hardcore. I know, I know. I've got a bar here in my neighborhood that I don't want to leave the neighborhood because it's my favorite bar. I get on. In fact, I see it right here. Yeah. What a pals. There you go. But yeah, I mean, it's, I will give him, you know, that he does love the city of New Orleans. He really does. Apparently left that bar and the city. It's a fun one. All right. Then there you go. Anything else? I guess it's a time to start, you know, rallying the troops and finding some, some people to talk to, huh? Yep. Yeah. And now we've got to put together a whole season of this. We got to work. Are we 16 weeks away? Something like that. I think we're 16 weeks away. Can't be happy. Happy line of things. Happy line of things. Consequence podcast network.