Journey through the stories that define the artists playing Bonnaroo. Who are they? What are they? What will you see? The What. Which bands? This year, That Matter with Brad Steiner and Barry Courter. That doesn't scream Barry Courter's week. I don't know what does. Welcome to the What Podcast, a podcast counting down the days to Bonnaroo 2018, a podcast for Bonnaroovians by Bonnaroovians, Barry Courter Bonnaroovian number one, I'm Brad Steiner Bonnaroovian number two. Boy, oh boy, this is going to be interesting. If that's how you're starting your week of pics, man. Oh man, I've got it. I got exactly the reaction I had. I got a long day in store for me, don't I? No, not really. Uh huh. But. Base Nectar, huh? That's what you're starting with. That is. You're a conundrum, rat in enigma, sir. You have no idea how often that is my go to album song. Is it just rage you need to get out? Like you're a very calm collected man. It could be. I've never once seen you have a terse word. I've never seen you get upset. Is that how you get it all out? Maybe that's it. I don't know. I just like it. I like hearing my stereo thump. Okay. So the secret to the secret to Serenity by Barry Courter. As a matter of fact. Is Base Nectar. Isn't that weird? That is so strange. That is my relax. I tell you, this EDM goes right past me because it's just not something that feels like a thing. But it's gotta be something. It's gotta have something because people are going crazy for it. Bonnaroo created an entire stage for it. But for me, I've never once said, oh man, honey, put on, let's make some pasta and put on some Base Nectar. What do you say? I understand. I mean, Mike Doerr and I, one of our campmates and Dents and our other campmate, we all went over there at about one in the morning, two in the morning last year because they were the same. They're like, I just don't get it. And Mike was like, does it have a beginning, a middle and an end? It doesn't. And I said, no, it doesn't. Let me ask you this. We were there last year, huh? Not Base Nectar. Okay. But the EDM in general. The other, I don't remember who we saw, but you know, I pointed out to him two things. One, it's just young people trying to get laid. And it's young people whose parents hate it. Okay. Well, you got two out of two for me. Rocket roll from the time it was invented. No, it's not something that I could listen to. Like I told you last week, it's not driving in the car kind of, I can't do it for long, but I do like that. And the other thing, Base Nectar, we'll get to that later because that's a really weird night. I don't know if he's doing that type of stuff either. It's not like I'm really caught up on all of his new stuff. I need to know more about Dave Base Nectar. I'd love to learn more about him. Yeah. It's, anyway. All right. This is Barry's week. I wanted it to be different. Good. I hope we're going to travel through Barry's schedule and see exactly the artists he cannot miss for Bonnaroo 2018. We did mine last week. We got your feedback. We want more of your feedback. For those who want to give us their picks, we're going to do nothing but listener picks next week on the podcast as we get ready for the last podcast before Bonnaroo. Yeah. I'll tell you how I went through this. It's interesting that you went first. It colors a little bit my list because a lot of what you want to see, I want to see. Very much so. I don't think really there were but one or two that I could think of from last week that I'm just like, eh. Really? No matter who it was. There's a couple that to me sound fairly similar. I think I said that last week Khalid and Sir Sly and even Anderson. You're going to be probably bored with Sir Sly if I know you. I don't know if that's going to be necessarily into you. I'm pretty sure that's opposite one of the ones I'm going to wander over to the EDM or something. You want to travel through the schedule like I did? Is that what you want to do? I want to go through the day because here's the other thing that changes mine. I tried to look at it like you did when I sat down at first. I thought, all right, these are the ones that can't miss. Then I thought, that's just not reality because the ones that I usually that fall in my can't miss list are the time of day when I have to file a story or take a picture or some of that. Then there's some others like the revivalists and Moon Taxi that we were fortunate enough to have guests on the show. Those guys also come through Chattanooga. So it's to my benefit to go take pictures. Sure. Oh, I get it. So my day is a little bit. Plus, you see a lot of stuff that you probably didn't really want to see because of work. Absolutely. Because of work. Absolutely. So that's a lot of stuff that I want to see because of work. The other thing is I've never really. I kind of try to think about Thursday and Friday and then I look at the ones that are like can't miss this for me and then it all gets screwed up. So I've never really absolutely sat down and plotted out a whole day. A whole day. Yeah. You know what? Now you say that. I don't think I ever have. I think that I've done that before and it never works out. Never does. Never once works out. I'm not like trying to stick to that. But because of what we've been doing, when I sat down and looked at Friday, I think it's Friday. Oh man. Friday's your day, really? See, Saturday was mine. Saturday was completely slammed. But Friday's yours. Well, that one's pretty rough too. But Friday's the one that ends with the super jam, right? Friday is the super jam. Yeah, the Tom Petty super jam. One thirty in the morning. One fifteen to two twenty five. That's not Barry time. In fact, last year we walked up to you at one o'clock in the morning and you had been in the same place that we left you in under a blanket under the tent. Like dad was waiting for the kids to get home. That's right. That's right. Now I can go to sleep. I can't promise that won't happen again. But that whole gosh, Friday, once it gets started, I mean it's still three o'clock in the morning. Yeah. All right. Well, let's start with Thursday then. All right. So Thursday is another, like you said, a great day. That Ron Gallo thing, that's a for sure don't miss. But I also did a little listening to Blank Range, which starts early. And depending on how we're going on Thursday, I may swing by there and then go see Ron Gallo for sure. And then. So you start, you're starting with Blank Range. Blank Range, do you know anything about Blank Range? I just like the sound. It's a little bit rock and roll. Yeah, I know. In fact, they were on one of our listeners list, which is why I gave them a listen. I think it was Drew who wrote about Blank Range and I was going to write back to him. Man, I totally let Blank Range slip right by Nashville's own Blank Range. Yeah, I like that. So I noticed that it was announced today and the day of we're doing this podcast, but you probably know this by now by the time you're listening to it. But Bonnaroo is going to do an entire pod, an entire plaza dedicated to Nashville. Yeah, I did see that. That was crazy. And so I've always contended that the true home for Bonnaroo is Chattanooga, not Nashville. They're trying to fight me on this one. They're trying. Yeah, I think Nashville's reaching out. They've started the shuttles. They've got all kinds of musicians in there. They're doing a specialty Nashville food. They're creating what used to be the grind and they're making it nothing but a dedication to Nashville. Yeah. And I don't know if it's related to it, but AC Entertainment opened a Nashville office just probably like three or four years ago. Well, how about that? And that takes you right to your next artist, another Nashville guy, the guy we featured last week, Ron Gallo. Like I said last week about Ron Gallo, I love his songwriting. I love his lyrics. They're so witty and fun. And I know most people think that the natural male companion to a Courtney Barnett singer songwriter is Kurt Viall. I think it might be Ron Gallo. Instead, he's so Courtney Barnett for me. Yeah. The lyrics are funny, the delivery is great. It sounds like it'd be a lot of fun in a bar. It sounds like it'd be a lot of fun Thursday at Bonnaroo on the...he's on The Who, right? Thursday, that tent, according to this, that tent, five o'clock, Ron Gallo. All right. Okay. And then for me, it's work. Then I got to seriously think about work. Looking at the list, I'll probably do a walk by with Lizzie. You like Lizzie? Yeah, I do. Yeah. I found Lizzie because a friend of mine is in love with Twin Peaks. The guy who actually a lot of Reddit people probably know and the guy that did the website and everything for us, Lord Taco, he is a huge Lizzie fan. He is going to Bonnaroo just for Lizzie because he saw her on Twin Peaks. I understand. The entire festival built around Thursday at Twin Peaks for Lord Taco. And then if I were a silent disco type, I would probably have to go by because they're doing old school rap. I know that's not your thing, but that's how I'm... Oh yeah, it is. Absolutely. Yeah. I don't know what it's going to be. I don't know. Like Eazy E and DJ Eazy Rock. What I'm hoping, yeah, even going back further. I like that idea. I've never actually, in all the years that I've done Bonnaroo, I've never done the silent disco. I don't think I have either. Never once. No, I've watched because my son, his first day, you got to go do... just watch. That's the craziest thing. It is fun. It was one of those mind melts when it first started. It was so cool to see. I had never even thought... Never heard of it. I mean, what a brilliant idea it is. The only problem I always had, because you know me, I'm a bit of a germaphobe. I'm not putting anybody's ear thing on my ear. It's not happening. You bring your own. Do you bring your own? No, but you probably would. I absolutely would, yes. I'm going to need some sani wipes before I go. Bring your baby wipes. Does anybody have any moisturizer or... That guy before me was a little sketchy. Will these headphones mess up my hair? Yeah, they had that, see? We all think this isn't real talk, but this is real talk. The Silent Disco is crazy to me also because it's so easily replicated. Other places can do it just like that, but then when they try to do it, it's always done so poorly. It's done so bad. They miss something. They always miss something. It's always miscalculated. Yeah, Bonnaroo has figured out how good this is, how to do this really well. Your understanding, right? Everybody gets their headphones and people are hearing different things, right? No, they hear the same thing all at once. They hear the same thing? I thought they were like four or five because you'd have one group screaming, jumping up and down and another kind of mellowing. Well, that's what I thought. Yeah, I think they all have the shared experience. They all have the shared experience thing going on. I don't know. We'll find out. Why don't you do it? If I'm going to do it, it's going to be old school rap. It could. And on Thursday too, it's probably a little more chill. Thursday and Floor, another one that you had mentioned. I like them quite a bit. I do. I like Floor. You know, I just a lot of times I get wrapped up into saying that I really like a band after hearing one song. Me too. But what we've done for 12 weeks. I really only know one or two songs of theirs, but I sort of like it. I would call that dream pop, a little dreamy pop. What do you think? Yeah, I agree. And I would I would say that falls into my walk by. Walk by. Yeah, that's going to be one of those moments where I've got some time. I'm probably hanging out at camp. I have I'll have all the best intentions to see Floor, but I'm going to say my you know what? Maybe I'm just going to go sit down and have a beer for a while. The thing that might get me out, though, to do the walk by with Floor is this is my whatever we want to call it surprise pick whatever. But close. I do not know a close. Didn't think you would because it's on the EDM. OK, here you go. EDM. And I tried to pick as my pick things that you wouldn't pick. I'm pretty sure I did that. I have never heard of a close. I had neither, but I like it. It's a little different from what I heard. Now, like I said, I haven't immersed myself in it. So what do you know about close? She does a it's a that's unique. A female EDM artist. Yeah, I don't see many of those. And she actually plays an instrument. A couple of the things I saw, she's playing guitar to some of the same EDM type of beats that we're more used to. Interesting. I don't. It's more chill. I think it's a lot more chill than say bass. That was not what I was expecting. No, not at all. What I was expecting. Very earthy. That's my point. That's going to be on the EDM. It's going to be on the other. It's on the other. Wow. Yeah, nine o'clock. Does it does it pick up any more than that? Somewhat. Some of them do. Yeah, really? I want to hear another one. Let's hear another close. I feel like you're luring me into a yoga studio. This is interesting. That's very fascinating to be on the other. Again, I looked at it a little bit as a pacing type of thing. Sure. See, this is one of those moments where I look at AC Entertainment and somebody, whoever is in the room booking the artist, where did they find a French electronic artist that nobody's probably ever heard of? Where the hell they find her? I don't know. And that's like we've tried to say all this whole time is it's about discovery. So I want to get out and find something new. And I liked that when I heard it. All right. Then I'm guessing after that, whatever you're doing, you're probably going to get to Daron Jones. Yeah, for sure. For sure. We really have, we've really hit the gas on how much we like him, huh? A lot. Quite a bit. That's because he fits everything that we like. Yeah. I'm hoping it's what we hope. Yeah. I hope it's one of those shows that I'm not building up too much. I hope I'm not getting too excited. I feel the same way about Davey. I feel like I'm right on the precipice of pushing this a little bit too hard. Absolutely. I think I heard a third or fourth song today and I thought, okay, I've already heard that a little bit. So we'll see. You're already backing off. But again, it was a dive into a lot of music all at once kind of thing. And then like I said, Friday, well, you know, pigeons, if I make it to pigeons, we'll see, because I keep thinking about Friday. Right. Because your day is so big on Friday, you're going to feel like you're going to cut a set or two short. Maybe, maybe. I mean, I just know me and I know it's a long day. There's not a lot of nappy opportunities. And when I go on to create nappies, I go to this great happy. All right. We'll see. Pigeons playing ping pong. One of the Bonnaroo roo clues very early on. And now maybe probably your Thursday headliner, one o'clock in the morning until two thirty. And that's pretty much going to be your entire Thursday. Right. And there you go. Okay. I like those picks. It's pretty good. Like I said, with some walk bys. It's a fine day for a walk by because you really want to just walk around and see the grounds anyway. Exactly. And you hope to do it not in, you know, one hundred and five degree heat. Exactly. I want to see. I cannot tell you the feeling that I have just driving around Chattanooga and saying to myself, I can't wait to smell the farm. I can't wait. I like just the smell of it. I can. I'm feeling like it's getting so close now. I'm like, oh, man, the air just seems different. The grass. I can't wait to lay down in the familiar sights of tent. And after tent center, I can't wait to feel that again. It's time to start unpacking stuff, making sure your mattresses are there and your tent poles are there. Hopefully you're not sleeping with rats. You're not. Yeah. Definitely want to open it before you get up there and find you've carried an animal with you. How well how early you start on Friday? I think Japanese breakfast is probably my first one. Really? Japanese breakfast at two fifteen. So I've got you convinced on Japanese breakfast. Oh, yeah. I've got quite a bit. Yeah. She's so pretty. She's so sweet, man. Yeah, I like that. And then honestly, I basically built in some walk around, take some pictures Friday. Can I stop you for a second? Maybe I'm just making something out of nothing. But does Friday's lineup seem a little light? Yeah, it looks like you could squeeze a couple of more artists in that Friday. I don't disagree. Even they're late. Late. I noticed that. Right. There's all I'm bass nectar is essentially playing unopposed. Yeah. I'm supposed on the witch. There's nothing going on. I know. That entire night. So it's bass nectar or nothing until. Well, you got snake hips on the other and that's about it on the EDM stage. But bass nectar versus snake hips. I mean, poor snake hips, poor snake hips. So yeah, I don't know if it's because bass nectar needs all that room. He's going to shake everybody out like that old electric football game. And that's going to be a big crowd, isn't it? Yeah. It's going to be a massive crowd. It's the first real night of supposedly everybody being there. You know, it's the first big blowout night usually. Though, if you and I, you know, we've noticed because everybody gets there earlier and earlier, Thursday night has become such a big. Gone so big. Well, you think maybe it's because they've got stuff programmed out in GA? Well, you know. People are going to go back and regroup. Maybe. The more I was reading through what each plaza is doing, it is slammed out there. Yeah. Look, I mean, we've made no bones about it. I have not been out to GA camping in 15 years. There was no reason to. I never. Other than to go out and see, you know, Mad Max Thunderdome again or see how bad it is. It is not a desolate wasteland out there anymore. It is really, really well done. And I'm startled, absolutely startled with all of the options that are out there. I was reading this morning and I was walking through some of the experiences that they have out there. There's no possible way I can see all that in a day. No. I mean, anybody could walk from pod to pod and see all that. Again, maybe that's the reason. Maybe they, you know, let's make everybody feel comfortable and happy. I haven't thought about this. Maybe because, you know, every those that scream about the artists and scream about the lineup, maybe the lineup is lighter because they put all the money and put a lot more money inside the camping experience. I think there's I don't know about money percentages, but I know there's a lot. You know, the last what, four or five years, the emphasis was on VIP, right? And it definitely started doing out in GA last year and this year for sure. That camp, that camping experience list that I saw, I would take any day. It doesn't look bad at all. I mean, you know, we've been bragging about our camp experience and that is part of the fun. I don't know too many people that were hardcore GA that bragged about their experience unless they just, you know, the kid that went with them did something stupid and it was funny, you know, but as far as like amenities, not a lot of that. I'll go through some of those here in a little bit. Let's let's go through some more of your Friday after you go Japanese breakfast. You got some work time. You're not going to do anything with Cheryl Crow, huh? No, no, that is where I got to figure out. I really want to see low cut Connie. I convince you on the low cut Connie, huh? I like that a bit, but I want to shoot Cheryl Crow. Well, that's inappropriate. I want to take pictures of Cheryl Crow. So I'm at it because that's low cuts, what 345 and Cheryl's 415. So that's going to be tough. That's going to be tough because I'll have to be in line or in the media area. I'm sure 15 minutes before you don't want to see how that one goes. You don't want to just give a tip of the hat respect to trombone shorty. Well, making his return for like the fifth time in Bond Road. That's on my list. So right after, if I'm able to take pictures of Cheryl Crow, I'm hoping to catch the rest of trombone. It should be at the end of, right? So three songs, three songs of Cheryl and or low cut. And then I'll go see trombone shorty. Are you going to do anything with Manchester Orchestra? Are you a fan of Manchester Orchestra? Not as much as you. Really? I love the new stuff from them. And I don't know as much, but those are three are all together, are they not? So that one's going to be tough. It's going to be very tough. That one was really tough. And then I think I factored in some there's some time in between because my next one is Zayshan B. And then like I said, I want to shoot a photograph again, the revivalists and T-Pain's right in there as well. Yeah. So you're a you're a convention Zayshan B too. I like that one. Yeah. He's interesting story. I tried to say this last week. Zayshan B. So he's from Chicago. He's got Indian and Muslim immigrant parents. He's got, you know, the soul music of Chicago meets sort of like the Middle Eastern sounds that he sort of meshes together. And I guess apparently, according to things that I know about him, because of his parents and what they listen to in the Middle Eastern music, they always listen to. That's what drove him to be a musician. And then because he, you know, also like soul music, try to just put the two together and see what happens. Yeah, I heard he loved he loved black artistic expressionism, essentially. I've heard several artists in the last couple of weeks on various shows talk about moving a lot, traveling a lot, being exposed to a lot. It's fun to see it all come together. If I'm not mistaken, even on his album, he's got a song that he sings entirely in Punjabi. I'm serious. It's if I'm not mistaken, if I remember correctly, he's got a whole song like that. I love it. I do too. It's very, very interesting. It's Zayshan B. Very Chicago, very Chicago blues. Absolutely. And then, like I said, I'll get over and take pictures of the revivalists. I think you're right. I think that T. Payne show is going to be huge. I don't think it's going to fit in that tent. No, it's not going to be huge. It's not going to be big enough. Maybe a walk back type of thing again. And then it's Sturgell for sure. And that's another one I'm going to have to decide. Do I try to get in the pit and take pictures or do I go get my spot and watch the entire show? I don't know. I'm torn between it. Well, you know, I have a... Okay, let me put it this way. It's the opener to the headliner. Okay, so it's the opener to Muse. You anticipate it being a bigger crowd than you would think. I don't know if it will be. I love Sturgell. I really do. But I don't know how big that crowd is going to be. It's really crazy that of all the podcasts we've done, the one that's been most listened to is Sturgell Simpson. That's crazy to me. Maybe I'm missing it. I think that Sturgell is something for me. Maybe it's going to be a bigger crowd than I anticipate. I don't think so though. Yeah, I don't know. So you might be... What I'm saying though, you might be able to take pictures and then get back in the crowd. Maybe. I hope so. Like I said, that'll be kind of a game day call. And then, man, is it back to camp for the nappy until Bass Nectar wakes me up and then Super Jam. I really want to see that. Bass Nectar, to be honest with you, is not a full show for me. Yeah, I don't know. How can you do an hour 15 to that? There's no way it's a full show, even for me. And like I said, you don't have to be very close. And I'm surprised you're really not going to give any spot any time to Khalid. No, I don't think so. But we'll see. Because that's the only opening to taking a break before Muse, Bass Nectar, Tom Fetty. That's why I think it's probably back at the camp thing. But my surprise Brad pick for the day is Okie Doki. Okie Doki. Interesting. Tell me about Okie Doki. It's just kind of a... Think if I'm right, it's a duo. And I like the pop. Wow. I didn't... You're surprising me entirely with Bass Nectar and pop music. Man, I'm all over the place. No. And I hate when people say that. Because usually when people say I like all kinds of music, it means they like country and western. Right. They love Ariana Grande. Barry Porter. I like that. I like that a lot. Yeah, see. Yeah. And another Nashville find. Another band from Nashville. I was just looking them up. Two years ago, almost to the day, you could have seen them at Acme Feed and Seed. And now they're playing Bonnaroo. See, I like that kind of thing. I love finding the guy at Feed and Seed and then... And now they're all of a sudden playing the Who's stage at Bonnaroo at 9.45 on a Friday. Maybe in a couple years they'll be on one of the tents. Yeah, maybe. Alright, that's a good pick. Alright, we go to... And then we know the rest of your night, so let's go to Saturday. Saturday. Saturday and Sunday are a lot thinner for me. Saturday starts with Davy. Absolutely. Alright, I mean, do we have to... Should we keep talking about Davy? We don't have to. Just be there, folks. Should we overstate it? I mean, we're gonna definitely be at Davy. So we're gonna be there at 12.30. If you are a podcast listener and would like to join us at Davy, that's where I think that we could probably meet everybody. If you wanna stop by, say hi, that's where we're gonna be. And it's probably the only place that will be easily found through the whole festival. I mean, 12.30 on a Saturday, that's a pretty easy spot to find somebody. So yeah, bring them. If you wanna stop by, say hi, that's where we're gonna be. We'd love to meet you. Yep, that'd be great. Because I have a feeling after three songs we're all gonna be like, okay, we probably overstated Davy. Probably, there's beer back at... There's beer at camp. Free beer at camp. Try to make it as early as possible because it may not make it till one o'clock. And then Knox Fortune, the next one's three. Oh, wow. So you got into the Knox Fortune. Did you spend any time with him after I brought him up last week? Little bit, yeah. I like it. I like the story. I love the name. He sounds like a dime store book hero, detective hero. The adventures of Knox Fortune. I'm shocked that you care at all about somebody's name because... Oh, absolutely. Really? I was, for a while, getting into Rainbow Kitten Surprise because the name just took me out of it completely. Absolutely. But, holy Jesus, once I started listening to him, I'm like, this is phenomenal. This is the same deal. Knox Fortune, if you start holding it against him, what his name is... Pigeon's playing bing bong. Anderson Pike sounds like an accounting firm. Okay, well that's his name. I mean, it's a name. I know, I know. I don't know if Knox Fortune's his actual name. I don't either, but I like it. So that's sort of a pacing thing. If you look, Davey's at 12.30 and then he's at 3 and then my, the only really one that I drew a big fat circle around from the day the thing came out is Mavis. How long has it been for you since you saw Mavis last? I'm not sure that I ever have. Really? You've never seen Mavis? I don't think so. No, wait a second. I know we all went to see Mavis like four years ago. If we did, it didn't. And I have to be honest, this is a total confession for me. I have done this job for 31 years. I knew who the Staples were. I knew the song. We all know the song. But when her album came out in 2016, and I don't remember, I don't have the name of it in front of me, it came to the paper and I played it and I fell absolutely in love with it. And I become obsessed with Mavis Staples ever since. Wow. Pretty awesome that Jeff Tweedy found himself on the new album. Jeff Tweedy and Mavis Staples, that's the world's power couple if you don't understand. Everything about that whole record I connected with big time and then like I said, immersed myself and play the one everybody knows. Yeah, I love her a lot. I just feel for some reason I feel like we have seen that together. Maybe it was somebody else that I was with. I thought I just forced you guys to go to that. It just defines a generation to me. To me, she's like a female Ray Charles. She's one of those voices when you needed somebody to be awesome. She was awesome. And they joined the band for The Wait, which is such an iconic song as well because of her voice. And I don't know, just the more I learn, the more I dig, Pop Staples, her dad might have been one of the coolest human beings ever. Who's her dad? Pop Staples. Oh yeah? What made him so cool? He just was cool. He was the guy that kept the Staples sisters together. He picked the songs, wrote some of the songs. He was a religious man. He just knew a good tune when he heard it. Yeah, and there's some of these sets, I think, that you just, if you're a music fan, you owe it to the art form to see. And I don't mean to be so over the top about it. But when Solomon Burke came and nobody was there, Solomon Burke is the king of soul music in Philadelphia. I mean, he invented soul music in Philadelphia and nobody was there. The man could not even stand on stage. He had to sit on his throne and be padded down with a towel. And then he turns around and dies a year later. I mean, those are the kind of guys that you're not going to have much longer. Imagine, imagine if you're listening to this podcast right now and you didn't see Sharon Jones. She had just got diagnosed with cancer and you didn't see it. That's how quickly it can turn if you don't see these guys. Mavis is definitely what you're talking about. I felt that way. I saw them, but I told you earlier in a podcast. I wish I had paid more attention to the Beastie Boys show. Oh man, that Beastie Boys. That's a great poll. I wish I had immersed myself in that one because I'm a huge fan now. And I just, I don't know, I wouldn't, you know, I wasn't a non-fan then. I mean, I wasn't against them. Not like them. Right. They just weren't. It just never connected for you. Didn't connect. And now all of a sudden, which now I, gosh, I wish I could go back and see that one. Yeah. That was one of the highlights of my life. I think that that's, you know, talk about a moment. You knew you were never seeing it again. You knew it was never coming back. And I sleep on that one being one of my top five Bonnaroo shows all the time. I totally forget about it sometimes. But holy God, if that wasn't as big of a highlight of my life as I have Bonnaroo. It's one of those that I liked it when I was watching it, but had I known the songs as well now as I do, I would have loved it. Things about them I just didn't know. You know, I knew no sleep till Brooklyn type of, that's basically what I kind of knew. So and Mavis and the reason that I wanted to play the song from just two years ago is not only is she an amazing legacy act is as we've grown to call them, she's still producing great, great music. Yeah. The new album's really, really good. Yeah. I think it's tremendous and I'm so excited. You know, she was, she was supposed to be there last year and I think went to Europe. Was she? I guess I totally forgot about that. She was scheduled and backed out. So, and then right after that is another one with Nile Rodgers and Sheik. That's another one on my list. And as we mentioned, and I think you included in our description, the link to the, to the folks that are trying to do the dance. Everybody should remember from last week, but they're trying to organize a dance to La Freak have a kind of a flash mob type of thing. Now I knew you were going to, I knew you were going to do this. I knew you were going to choose this because I feel like you've written about them a lot. Whenever they come to town, you're all about it. Can I tell you something? You want to hear confession time? I have no idea who they are. I have no idea who Nile Rodgers and Sheik is. Play La Freak. You'll know. Nile Rodgers produced a couple of David Bowie records. I think he did a Talking Heads record. Oh, and he did Get Lucky. That's right. He produced that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, I just, I guess, and you're not alone. I've had other people say that. I've had other people say that as soon as I say La Freak. Then they know. All right. Well, yeah, everybody will know that song. Every single person. And when is that again on Saturday? Early evening, six ish, six thirty. I think they're on the main stage. That's right. And then, and then, um, you know, old crow fan. Yeah, like I'm okay. Well, old crow being one of those bands that we, when we talked to Mike from, from the Bonnaroo Beacon, old crow was one of his absolute must sees. Yeah, very first. And then it's Anderson Park. You're going to, you're going to, you're going to go with me for both the Bony Veras shows, huh? That's the plan. Okay. And that's, that's why the early part of the day is a little, you know, on the light side for me. First Aid Kit is in there too. And that's actually my. Your pick of the day? Yeah. You know, another one that I sort of forgot about, uh, First Aid Kit. I really, really like, but I feel like, isn't there some sort of like, isn't there a problem with First Aid Kit? Absolutely. It's in between all of the, they're at 845. Oh man. Yeah. And it's Anderson Pak. Not going to work for you. I can't do it. Now. I like First Aid Kit. I saw them at Austin City Limits Fest and they were doing, they were doing new music at the time. These two girls are so adorable and their sound is so nice. I'll tell you though, at 845, that ain't the sound that I want. It's just not necessarily the sound that I'm looking for at 845 when I've got, I've got Anderson Pak sitting right across from him. Who would have thought that it would take two Swedish girls to bring back the steel guitar? I, they have such a great sound. I just don't think that the schedulers did them any favors. No, I agree, but I had to include it. To me, I wish you would have, I wish you would have taken that and put that somewhere at like 345 or 445. That's a perfect hot afternoon artist for me. Yeah. Yeah. They didn't get any favors, but I love them so much. Don't sleep on them. Enjoy it if you want to get away from Anderson Pak. It would have been a good one for Sunday because I really don't have a lot on Sunday. That's your Saturday pick. All right, Sunday. Let's go through your Sunday. It's going to be quick. I want to go by and see Bozzy again because he, it was so nice to join us on the show and I want to see what he does. You remember he was so confident. Oh my God. Oh God. That kid, that's not something he lacks in any form or fashion. No, and it's his first festival ever and his first time in Tennessee. So we're going to see how the young man handles the heat in Tennessee. What's your over-under on covers? I think he only has like 45 minutes, but. Yeah. What's your over-under on covers? Either going to be a lot of covers or a lot of talking. I mean, let's be honest, his hit song is two minutes and 20 seconds. Yeah, right. And he just stops. He can't play that for 40 seconds, 40 minutes. And it just stops. How many times are you going to hear that song? I don't know anything else about him and I don't know if anybody else does either. I just don't know what that show is going to be, but he's a good kid and he's feeling good about it. That's for sure. And then to be honest, the others are probably a lot of walk-bys for me or recovering in the, in the, in our camp. Yeah. I got, I got news on who Rich Brian is. Oh, good tell. So our buddy, Nikki Turner, Nikki T, who I did the what logo and graphics. He told me that Rich Brian is a massive hip hop rapper, but he's Asian. And so it's like a really, again, talk about the multiculturalism of this year's festival. They try, they're, they've got a lot of, you know, Japanese breakfast, Rich Brian and Zayshon B, they're, they're hitting all the, all the, all the angles, but it's not for me. I listened to some of it and oh boy, but he's massive apparently. So something went right by us and I didn't even know it. So that's probably one I'll go take pictures of. Rich Brian. Just to say I have pictures. Of a guy named Rich Brian. Yeah. Okay. If he's that big. I guess. That's, go ahead. You know, again, do I want to sit in my chair or go out and do something, see something? So. Yeah. Well, I mean, you seem like somebody that'd do a Brothers Osborne though. They were coming up. Yeah. I was sitting in my chair because I really was hoping that the Grand Ole Opry stage wasn't quite as late. I was hoping that was going to be early afternoon. So yeah, again, Brothers Osborne is a definite walk by for me and I have a feeling I'm going to like it. Oh yeah. You're going to, you're going to like it a lot. I mean, they've got a song called Weed Whiskey and Willie. So I'll stick around. Well, that's pretty much sums up most Bonnaroo experiences. That's me. I like that. Yeah. There you go. Brothers Osborne. It's Sunday on the what? Four fifteen. So then you know, you've got Jungle, Go Go Penguin. You know, the jungle, you like jungle. I like that. I could have learned of them. Yeah. Yeah. They, it's a really, really fun show and boy, that new single is so, so good. I'm a strong man, change the things I do, true, and it's funny how they all remember Yeah, it's just such a great sound. It's right up my alley and it stinks that it's right up against Broken Social Scene because I really like that Broken Social Scene album. But Jungle, 515 on Sunday of the Witch. Well, just let me throw this at you. This one's my pick for Sunday. Oh, your Sunday pick. Another surprise is Repeat Repeat and unfortunately it's the same time. Repeat Repeat. Tell me about Repeat Repeat. I feel like I know them but... It's a guy and a girl. He's not a pretty guy. I don't know why that matters. It doesn't. But it kind of had a little bit of that Athens new wave sound that I grew up on, though it's updated. I don't know, I just like this. Another Nashville find. You are on target today for Nashville. Didn't mean to. How many Nashville artists is that by now? That's probably four for four. Alright, there you go. I think it is actually. Your Sunday pick and I'm guessing you're absolutely doing a St. Paul. St. Paul and then we'll see. And then we'll see. And then we'll see. Because usually Barry's gone by Sunday morning. I've already been gone by this point. This would be the latest you've ever stayed upon. Sure, no question. Yeah, usually, you know, we're Chattanooga is only an hour away for folks who don't know. So and we get there earlier. We get there Wednesday. We get there Wednesday. And most of my work is done by then. Talk about missing a show. I left early Tom Petty's last year. Had opportunity to get in the pit and watch that one. Ah, so home is better, huh? Well, I was all I stayed till probably two to 30 and then made the mistake of sitting in a chair. Oh, that evil chair strikes again. I better get home now or I won't. Yeah, it would have been OK if you stayed Sunday night. Now what did you end up doing when you got home instead of Tom Petty? Well, honestly, I have a ritual. I get home, I clean everything off, I open a beer and then I go and I get in the pool with my wife. OK. It's not. I mean, it's a nice way to unwind because the idea of going back to work after that long week is the worst feeling. And so I need that sort of buffer. There you go. That's what it's about. Barry's picks. Congratulations. You got through it. You're pretty happy with it. Yeah. Good. I've never. It's interesting because the whole point of why we talked about doing this podcast is what we just did. Yeah. This last two. Yeah. Because neither of us opened that list and said, holy crap, you know, how am I going to see 400 of my favorite or 100? It was more who are these people? And now we need your list at the what podcast? At the what underscore podcast or the what podcast dot com. Submit your picks and we'll read through some of them next week. We are just what? Two and a half weeks away from Bonnaroo. We're not just going to read them, right? We're going to try to call some folks. We're going to talk to some people. Yeah, we got to have you guys tell us. We'd love to hear who you like and why. Yeah, let's do it. The what podcast dot com. Talk to you next week. Journey through the stories that define the artist playing Bonnaroo. Who are they? What are they? What will you do? What are you going to do? What are you going to do? What are you going to do? What are you going to do? What are you going to do? What are you going to do? What are you going to do? with Brad Steiner and Barry Coer.