They did put goo goo dolls above Ringo on the list.

That ain't cool.

Thank you.

That's, that's not cool.

Thank you.

All right guys, you got to not do that.

Hey guys, welcome back to the What Podcast.

I'm Barry.

That's Brian.

That's Russ.

That's Lord Taco.

This week, it's just going to be the three of us.

We don't have a guest, but it seems to me like a perfect

opportunity, a perfect time.

To as Brian says in radio parlance, hit the reset button.

Uh, feels like we're what?

In February, we've got the, uh, the bulk of the lineup and we've

all had weeks to talk about it, but it seems to me there's some

news that we want to get to, but also it seemed like a pretty good

opportunity to maybe spend a little bit of time talking about

this podcast and who we are and why we do it.

And especially as it relates to some of this news.

Yeah, we'll get to a couple of things here and, uh, it w for full

disclosure, we are recording on Superbowl Sunday morning, so we

don't hopefully team one, hopefully one on your prop bets,

but this is like a holiday for me my whole life.

I'm not even as I'm a big, bigger baseball fan than football,

but this day he's got a holiday feel to me.

So I, and, uh, man, I've spent the whole damn winter not getting

sick and I apologize.

It's just a heavy, it's just a cold.

I'm fine, but I kind of sound like crap, but good to see you guys.

Good.

See you.

Somebody mentioned, uh, one reset cause, uh, we're coming up on an

anniversary.

I don't know if you realize this.

So February 16th, 2018, we released our first episode of the

what podcast.

So, yeah, coming up on a big one.

That's seven years.

February 16th, 2018.

Wow.

Five seconds ago.

And next month will be, and I, you know, hesitate, but COVID.

So, um, I'm glad you mentioned part of what I wanted to talk about.

Well, let me, let me go back.

Uh, so we started this thing.

Brad Stein and I were sitting around lunch.

Must've been January or early February, uh, in 2017.

And we realized all we do is talk about Bonnaroo 2018.

All we do is talk about Bonnaroo.

And I think I casually said something like, we need to do a

Facebook live show while we're there.

And he went, what do you mean?

I said, we need to do something live.

And I mean, his eyes went pshh.

And I think he went home and called you, Russ, who I didn't know you at the time.

Right.

And I said, we need to do a podcast.

Uh, Brad is a radio guy.

So obviously had access to, uh, studio and he knew you could do a web design.

Lord taco is tweeting and communicating online.

Right.

That's where the taco came from.

Yeah.

But that's ancient history at this point.

You didn't think it was ever going to be public, right?

That was your just sort of an online handle.

And just for people who don't know, he is an actual Lord.

Um, that is true.

This is a true story.

Explain that.

Uh, Brad got me one of those established titles.

The, uh, thing that we pay, you get like a foot of land or something.

Isn't that what it is?

Like a square foot of land in, uh, Scotland or something that, uh,

that is cooler than people are going to act like that is neat.

I forgot why I bring it up.

Yeah.

It's kind of like getting a star named after you or, you know, one of those

things that's pretty neat.

So I'm pretty sure everybody when they, they, the Lord taco, I mean, what,

I w I'm not going down that road right now, but, uh,

anyway, that's where taco comes from and that he is an actual Lord.

Uh, he is also our web designer and our producer.

And, um, as you've said many times, never in your life, imagine that

you would be on camera, but here you are probably, uh, probably get more, uh,

fan mail and fan reaction than all of us combined.

It's also a true story, which I love.

Yeah.

You're welcome.

Yeah.

You're welcome.

Carious.

Yeah.

Well, regardless of how it started, none of us thought it was going to last.

No, that's long.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

Pretty, pretty neat to look back.

Yeah.

And so now it's weekly.

Go figure that.

Uh, and I bring a lot of that up because, uh, one of the things that we have done,

I spent 37 years with the Chattanooga Times free press Brian, you've been in

radio several locations locally.

You've been to every Bonnaroo since the first one.

I went to the first one.

I've been to everyone since 2007.

Russ, you've been since 2018.

Correct.

Yeah.

And that's the other thing is, you know, Brad tapped me to help kind of set up the

podcast and I was like, Oh, sounds great.

I'd never been to Bonnaroo.

Maybe I'd like to go.

What do I get out of it?

And he said,

fun fact real quick.

This was supposed to be you, me and Brad Barry.

The initial thought was the three of us with me, more of the role of what

taco is doing, except I have none of the expertise.

And so I was working with Brad at that time for the same, the same radio company.

And it was just a convoluted time and it didn't work and it was fine.

But I was kind of like, who the hell is this taco guy?

Yeah.

What's this all about?

What's this all about?

Yeah.

Like what's a taco?

I was like, I got enough to do already right now.

So I'm not really that upset except for what's going on here.

And, you know, that lasted for like five minutes, but it does feel like ancient

history, a lot of it, but yeah, it's been fun and it's been great to be on with you

guys.

I've only been doing this with you regularly now for a year and two months.

Coming right at it.

Right.

Another anniversary.

Yeah.

And we used to do it in person, like you said, cause Brad had access to an actual

recording studio.

And, you know, if you go back and listen to some of those early episodes, they

sound amazing because it sounds like a radio show.

And then it was about late 2019, early 2020, Brad moves to New Orleans.

So we had to figure out how to do this show remotely instead of in person just

because of the distance.

And then COVID shut everything down.

So, and then everybody had to learn how to do this.

Everybody had to do this.

Yeah.

Now everybody's got a goddamn podcast.

Right.

Well, so.

Video cast.

Just to go back a little bit.

Um, we thought again, it was February and we thought we'll do three months worth.

We'll lead up to it or four months and then that'll be it.

Um, and then, uh, we reached out to the folks at, uh, AC entertainment in

Knoxville, which was the co-founders along with superfly just cause we didn't

want to, you know, we didn't want to piss anybody off because they were, um, that's

who we worked with to get in.

I mean, I'm just being honest.

That's who I got my credentials from for the paper.

And that's who you got yours from in some way or another.

Right.

I mean, we were all, uh, we wanted to be upfront and they said, we love it.

You know, come on, just, you can't use our name and you can't use our graphics,

but we'll help you in any way they can.

And they have, and what probably fourth or fifth episode Russ, we reached out to

Ashley caps, who is the AC AC entertainment and said, well, you come on

the show and he said, sure.

And then Brian and I were like, uh, this thing might have legs.

This is, this might be legit.

You know, it was, yeah, it was an eyeopening moment because up until that

point, the whole idea of the show was, well, let's just talk, we don't know

anyone on this lineup, let's talk about who's playing and get familiar with it.

And then, yeah, switching over to Ashley caps, actually getting a good

interview with about the history and behind the scenes.

Yeah.

I think it opened our eyes.

There's a lot more to talk about here.

Yeah.

No, and they, they dug it.

Um, yeah, sorry to sound 1960s, but they, I think they saw the advantage of it.

Uh, they, they saw the, the value and they were very helpful, which is again,

one of the people that whose name I just randomly got was Ken Weinstein.

He'd been on the show a couple of times.

And I think you both have heard me say over the years, whatever you do, do not

piss off Ken Weinstein and do not get between me and Ken.

This is kind of like a game of Thrones episode.

Just a little bit.

Don't mess up the power structure, buddy.

Yeah.

Brad Steiner, by the way, we'll leave it at that.

Yeah.

I have said that over and over, do not get between me and that guy.

And, uh, the reason that's important.

The reason I'm bringing up is I've been honest with them from the jump.

And so have you guys, and they've been honest with me.

Um, so that's a roundabout way to bring us up to date, but also, uh, the reason

I bring it up is because this week, um, some, there was a lot of chatter about

the festival here in Chattanooga moon river and what's going to happen with it.

It's a lot of the same people that produce it.

It's a C three event.

It's a lot of the same people.

Um, Brian, I don't know how up up to date with this week you are, but I started

getting an email and a text like, um, is it canceled for good?

It's not happening again in 2025.

There's a Reddit thread.

I'm like, what's, what are you talking about?

I mean, they hit pause.

I knew they hit pause.

Um, apparently they made it sound last year, like it was

going to come back this year.

I never thought it was.

Oh, I didn't think for a second.

And that's exactly how they worded it.

That it would be, you know, we'll see you again in 25.

Yeah.

Which we've all heard before.

I think we're all a little pessimistic.

Yeah.

I'm just conditioned the pause button.

Yeah.

I'm conditioned to think that way.

And I'm glad you brought that up.

Cause last year, remember we did a whole episode with Tim Kelly,

the mayor of Chattanooga.

Please link to that.

Glad you brought that up.

And that's, that's again, that's, this is what we try to do rather than just us

three speculate last year when it happened, I said, why don't we call Tim?

And I texted him on Saturday morning, which I can't believe, you know, I, and I

told him, I said, I will do this one time in my life, um, bother you because I have

your cell phone number, but will you come on our show?

And he said, sure.

What time went in where?

And he did.

And it was great.

Uh, he talked about, you know, what happened.

Uh, and basically, um, the site got too small, uh, costs rose, uh, gasoline,

diesel, semis band, moving them from part of the country, this, uh, everything.

And the 12,000 to 12, the $13,000, I mean, uh, 13,000 capacity, capacity

didn't work anymore.

They need bigger.

Um, and so they had to hit the reset.

Um, I, I, so when this came out this week, everybody was like, well, I

heard this and I heard that.

So I went to Reddit and the first thing I saw was somebody who said, well, yeah,

it was a, it was a shit show last year.

Everybody canceled the day before.

And I'm like, what are you talking?

Yeah, I mean, it was completely capacity and nobody canceled.

And what are you talking about?

You know, well then, you know, people jumped on me for this, that, and the other.

And so I went as I do yesterday and I won't name names because I didn't ask if I

could, but like I try to do is I picked up the phone and called somebody who has

the answer and said, what's the deal or is it canceled for good or is it on pause?

And he said, in my mind, it's on pause.

We're still looking for a location.

They want a downtown Chattanooga location where people can walk from their

hotels, restaurants, all of that thing, which Coolidge park had, and, um, there's

just not anything yet.

So, you know, so the debate, the debate online here is we got, we got this

festival in 2018, drew Holcomb and his wife, Ellie, and then they, they, they

paused it for paused for 2024.

And now the, the latest that would be on social is that they're, they're paused

again for 2025 and most people were believing what or talking what Barry,

that I'm sorry that I didn't get in the weeds on it, that, that they didn't

believe it at all or that, that just, just a mixed bag of, of wrong information.

Mixed bag of wrong information.

And that's, that's what gets, you know, gets under me.

Um, I get, if you don't think it's coming back in, I mean, a hundred percent, I

mean, there's a lot of things that have to happen for it to come back.

Like finding a location where you can get 15,000 or more people, uh, near

downtown Chattanooga, I mean, that's tough.

So,

well, it's not that tough if you want to just throw it on the other side of the

river, like we used to do a festival around here.

I mean, they could do that, uh, but it wouldn't feel very unique or original.

So I'm not sure if that's part of their plan or not.

Um, I certainly, I, I don't believe it's coming back.

That's just what I've been from the, from the beginning, but that's just a belief.

That's just me being on an online Facebook thread, giving you a thought.

I don't know anything.

That's just what I think.

Yeah.

And that's what I mean.

I have no problem with that, but it was, you know, the other thing was, well, it's

because all the bands canceled.

Well, that's just, I don't even know where that thought came from.

Yeah.

We had a weather event that, that, that one of the years passed and we've had some

issues like many of these boutique festivals have had, we've talked about

some of them recently, so.

And we, they did have one, a headliner dropout late, but they got a

replacement pretty quickly.

That's right.

And now they, they canceled their whole tour.

That was, that was, yeah, it wasn't just the festival emergency issue.

Yeah.

Yes.

The other thing that people kept saying as if they were expert in it and knew for a

fact was that the city canceled it because people could stand up on the

bridges and watch for free.

And that one came up like four or five different people.

And somebody said, yeah, they canceled a $6 million festival because a hundred

people could watch for free.

Yeah, exactly.

When that fest, when it first came, we have this walking bridge downtown.

It's beautiful that you can see the whole downtown from beautiful views.

And that was a lot of talk though.

It was like, all you got to do is hang out on the bridge.

And, and I have to, I have to take some, some blame for that because I, you know,

as a reporter for the paper, we made that the lead, uh, because I had talked to

somebody from the city who said, no, we're not going to allow people to do that.

Yeah.

Well, I said, come and get me.

Watch.

Exactly.

Pretty quickly.

Everybody realized it's, it's literally, it's a public road and you can't close it

off.

Let me take a picture.

You see here.

Look at me.

There's Drew Holcomb on the stage there, buddy.

Come get me.

We were having fun with it, but, but I'm surprised six years later, whatever

people are still thinking that's an issue.

That is not why it went away.

That has nothing to do with it.

Real quick, just a side caveat.

I, I was thinking about this since we knew we were going to talk about this

this week is that I'm wondering if the, we talk about the oversaturation of

festivals and we talk about all the different variables that come into this

that you can apply to any industry.

And, and I look at the boutique festivals like a moon river, like a

hinterland, like a rail bird, just the ones I'm thinking of here closer to the

south.

These are the ones that might be the most in danger long-term because they're

still very expensive and they're, they're very, a lot of them are pretty niche.

It ain't going to Bonnaroo.

You're not doing something that is so unique and so different than anybody else.

So now you're relying on deeper pockets for niche audiences at higher and higher

prices.

I'm not mad about her trying to make a point about that.

That's just the truth.

No, that makes me more concerned down the road.

Cause I think these little boutique festivals are neat, but it's, I think

that's moon river is a perfect example of one that it's not necessarily profitable

because of pricing being where it is for all the reasons that are mostly

legitimate.

And, um, man, the moon river was a hit in this town.

I hit it was it.

It meant first you get your regulars who were going to say their same things

about traffic and all that stuff.

All right.

Forget them.

Cause they're always going to be mad outside of that.

People had a blast at this festival.

Most of the organizers and all the people who would play that when we talked to

many of them, cause they let us in close as our hometown.

And nothing, but this is great.

So it is a dollar and cents.

Beautifully run the city city loved it.

The city bent over backwards to make that part work.

Beautiful part too.

That no one ever thought about first two years in minutes, minutes, you know, the

first year was hours before 24.

And the next year took overnight.

I remember laughing with Drew on the phone, like what happened?

Are you worried?

You know, cause it went overnight.

Uh, I had one year where it didn't sell out.

Uh, the one year where the rain got Sunday.

Um, so my question, and I don't have this answer.

I I've tried to reach out to other people in the industry and ask, you know,

cause the pause thing is new.

That was a new thing we heard.

Newer lingo.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Why not just postpone or cancel or whatever, but we've hit pause and, you

know, I don't know if that's coming out of COVID, uh, but, and, and moon river's

not the only one, there were several festivals around the country that, that

use that terminology.

And so I, I've tried asking people, and maybe it's an ongoing question, cause I

don't have the answer.

Why are they presenting it that way?

You know, what, why would they, and they don't seem to want to go public and talk

about it, you know what I mean?

You don't see them going on and doing interviews and explaining.

And is it a sponsorship thing?

Maybe, I mean, Brian, you're more into that sponsorship world.

Is it because they, they don't want to just straight up say, you know, and it's

not happening is it with city thing?

I don't know.

Well, I, my first thought here is when just this moment talking about the

pause button and the, the, the lingo that it's, that's been used so much.

It became an industry term and I do believe it was out of COVID.

And I think it's just kind of a copycat thing.

Like that's what everybody's saying, but it also leaves you flexibility to say,

well, we didn't say we were doing that.

We didn't say anything.

We didn't, we didn't get definitive.

Um, that's probably what it is more than anything.

And I, and you, you might've just nailed it, Barry.

It, there might be a level of, we're going to have mass exodus on, on our big

sponsors, not just like the small stuff that they can go recreate or pick up

somewhere else if someone drops off, like the bigger, whoever that might be, their

beer or their, their, their, their soda, Coca-Cola or something like that.

Or the city itself.

Or the city itself who was always involved in, in helping accommodate this

through tax incentives and things like that.

Everything's got that component.

I bet that is it.

I bet that's it.

It's just say pause and that way we can say anything at this point.

And keeps them from painting themselves into a corner.

I guess.

Yeah.

And the thing too, with our moon river, it's a grass, it's a, it's a, it's a

grass, new grass, blue grass Americana, probably the more accurate way of

putting it festival also talking more to what I mentioned before, the niche

audience, boy, that's, this is as niche as it gets and we've had, but we, we had

everybody except I, I, in my head, the only major artists from that Americana

grass level of genre that we didn't get was Luminers Mumford and Sons.

Cause nobody, nobody's gotten them.

Yeah.

And that's almost it.

Like almost everybody else.

Yeah.

Brandi Carlisle, Ava, it's, uh, is bull.

Uh, Amanda Shires, uh, nickel Creek.

Uh, why am I blanking Hozier?

Um, yeah.

How was your, uh, the chicks?

Yeah.

The chick we've gotten.

I mean, Billy strings was on the 2020 lineup.

We even had Billy damn strings.

Mavis staples.

Maybe it's been a stacked lineup, but it's kind of like, who else are you going to get?

Yeah.

Yeah.

You've already, you've already gotten everybody.

Like that's a, you've done such a good job.

I'm not sure you can keep this up.

That's been kind of my thought too, a little bit.

Well, so what I know is they're still looking for a location.

Uh, you know, we've talked about, there's a lot of things that are

going to happen in the city.

Are we getting an amphitheater?

We not, that would be a good place for it.

All that kind of stuff.

But my point in bringing this up is, um, we try to go to the actual people who can

answer the questions and not speculate.

Um, I mean, you know, I get the whole socials and I get the reddits.

Everybody, everybody knows a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who's heard the

truth.

And, and I was just, I couldn't, maybe I'm an idiot for going on there on.

You probably are a little bit, a little bit, but I do it too.

I do it every single day.

Talking about that's not even close to true.

And Reddit is actually, I feel I still think the best place though, to get

conversation better than the other socials out there, that's up for anybody to

make their own opinion on, but you can't.

And I like to contribute to these Reddit threads to, to give information, but

sometimes it gets so far off the rails.

You can't even do it.

So I appreciate you bringing that up here.

You know, we're not a news breaking organization that we're not, but we, I

mean, we're going to try to find out the specifics and the details.

And if we don't know, we're not going to spend all that much time on it.

Cause there's no reason to turn this into a Reddit thread.

And I will say, I did something no one else did, which is I put my name on

of entry, the second comment, I actually put your name on it.

Nobody else does.

I mean, you know, it's so easy to just throw stuff.

So, well, the biggest thing that's annoying with Reddit that I've had trouble

from the beginning is nobody has a real name on Reddit.

Nobody.

It's like, that's the thing.

It's kind of a thing is you, uh, pick the stupidest name you can and go.

I've been frustrated with that for them to jump.

I'm like, I don't want to be on a social media with a bunch of people behind.

Yeah.

Like the goofiest name, the handles ever.

But I've grown to understand it and accept it and be fine with it.

But I get it.

At least on Facebook and Instagram, you're usually getting someone's real name.

But I interrupted you, Rush.

You were about to say something.

I was just saying, this is why you should subscribe to the podcast here on YouTube

or Spotify or any of these platforms.

Cause we will, you know, we're not, we might not break the news, but we will talk to

about it and if something happens, we'll, yeah, we'll be the first to tell you.

That's the whole thing we've done from the start.

If we don't know, we're going to find the guy who does, we're going to go ask him.

Or we're going to try our damnedest.

We're going to try.

Yeah.

And we still get stuff wrong.

Um, no, I get stuff wrong.

But the reason that these people talk to us is that we try to get it right.

And we try not to betray trust and those types of things.

So

should we, do we need to get right into the, the lineup of all lineups again?

Two years in a row.

Yes, please.

Bourbon and beyond guys.

I mean, it's about a week.

Oh, we're a week old on this.

Sorry, everybody.

We're a week late on this, but, um, I mean to getting to our thoughts on it, but.

All right.

What do y'all think?

Bourbon and beyond for September.

Once again.

That's as simple as answers you can put.

Um, it is stacked top to bottom.

Once again.

Uh, I'll, I do want to say this though.

I, we had this information out there before festival did, by the way, everybody

just while we're talking about first and stuff.

Uh, I had some Louisville, uh, on the ground people.

Wait.

Yeah.

Louisville.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

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People.

Wait.

Yeah.

Louisville.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Sorry.

Or Lexington.

Sorry.

I'm so, I'm so smart.

I don't even know what city it's in, but man, once again, it starts from the top

and it goes and goes and goes and goes and goes, and I don't know how they have

the speaking of Lumineers there.

They are on the top line.

Um, with fish and Jack White and Sturgill Simpson, uh, Benson Boone, who I didn't

even know his name until the Grammys the other day.

I knew the song, um, Alabama shakes back together that everybody's really excited

about, uh, cage.

I mean, I, I mean, yeah, which is one of the hottest acts in the country.

It's, and that's just the first two lines.

We don't need to read the whole thing off, but wow.

What a festival.

Well, I mean, when you guys line up, what a festival lineup.

When you send it to me, I went immediately.

I started at the bottom for some reason and saw NRB Q again, talking about back

together, and I think I texted you guys and I, cause I like foreigner and blues

traveler, and I said, this looks like the, uh, the, uh, bands I thought had

retired, uh, festival certainly has some of that.

And then I didn't even see it.

Fifth line down Ringo star and his all stars.

Are you kidding me?

How was that?

Not top line, but you know, maybe not in your world, but anytime you got a beetle.

Uh, no, I agree with you on that.

I agree with you on that.

And that just, I mean, I don't think that's well, they did put

goo goo dolls above Ringo on the list.

That ain't cool.

Thank you.

That's that's not cool.

All right, guys, you got to not do that.

Lake street dive is before Ringo.

So his third eye blind.

I didn't even know third eye blind was on this, on this until I just re re looked at it.

Right.

And it's the bands I thought had quit.

10,000 mini-axes on here.

Yep.

I know.

I know we were talking about, oh my God, I just saw that.

We were talking about, um, Peter Buck last week.

Um, the baseball project is on here.

That's Mike Mills, um, side band and that's all the way at the bottom.

I love the water boys.

Squirrel nut zippers.

That's another one.

My girl.

I'm you heard anything from squirrel nut zippers?

I know.

Exactly.

What am I, um, loves of my life of the, in the music world, the last 10 years, Jay

bird all the way down at the bottom.

Yeah.

Um, blind Millen.

I don't even know who's singing for them anymore, but that is the original band.

Leftover salmon again, other than Shannon, obviously.

And so that's, that's at least worth seeing.

Uh, it just keeps going and going.

And the, the amount of the quantity here is wild.

The quality is, I think it's like, Barry, you're right.

I mean, a lot of this is just quantity filler.

Um, not necessarily quality, but it's so much.

Yeah.

They're just, there's just so much that the, the, uh, the law of averages, the math

just means there's probably going to be enough here for almost anybody.

If you're just looking at numbers, I mean, just looking at

specifics, like names on paper.

Yeah.

Pat Benatar and her husband, Neil Geraldo.

Right.

They're still married.

Right.

Yeah, I guess.

I hope so for the sake of the show.

Pixies are on there.

It's just one that you just keep looking at and it just keeps something just

guster, you know, Guster's on there.

Trampled by turtles.

Collective soul is on there.

Yeah.

Uh, Joe Bonamassa, the pixies and it's half the pixies, but it's still the pixies.

So will we make that trip?

We said last year or I did that.

I for sure would.

I don't, I don't know.

We'll see.

I like every year we're going to go mostly because of Ringo Ringo NRBQ.

I mean, there's enough to get me up there.

Uh, for sure.

We'll have to see if some accommodation folks from around, uh, make that

work, help us out a little bit on that one.

But speaking of, and I meant to do this earlier.

I mean, are we, are we done with this?

Sure.

I, I got my book.

Oh, the year book.

Yeah.

And, uh, thanks Caleb with the, got the nice, nice note.

Oh, nice.

Yeah.

That's really, that's very cool.

Yeah.

We, we had Caleb on a few weeks ago, uh, pushing the book and he is selling them.

It is a, it is a pitch, but it is a pretty cool pitch.

It was a pretty cool, uh, idea.

I first heard about it.

I was like, I don't know about this one.

Good luck, buddy.

Nah, 50% off if you go, uh, through our website, right.

Or include, uh, what the What Podcast.

The code is the what podcast all one word.

And then you go to a binary yearbook.com and check, check out there, place your

order and use the code, the what podcast 50% off.

And I can say it's, it's a lot of fun.

I've spent a lot of time with it and I'm still not through.

It's huge.

Uh, he really went all out with this thing.

It's very cool.

And so we're still taking anything you want to send in contest wise for the,

so we've got the, the, and we'll be wrapping this up.

I don't know.

We can kind of make up our mind on this guys, however we want.

So, I mean, uh, wait at your own peril.

Um, but we've got the tickets and then we'll have the yearbook and then we'll

have a David Bruce, I am buying a root print as well that we will be sending out.

So we'll probably wrap that up in the next, I don't know, few weeks to a month ish

or less, whatever, whenever, or tomorrow.

I don't know.

Whenever we feel like it.

What is it?

Brad used to make Brad Steiner so mad about these radio contests register for

the chance to win or something.

He used to just send him over the semantics.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anyway, go to the website that's as you can win two tickets to Bonnaroo plus

camping, uh, or a David Bruce print or a copy of the Bonnaroo yearbook,

which I can attest is awesome.

So speaking of, um, back to Bonnaroo itself, um, have you guys done it?

So I think you guys might be doing something similar to me as far as, uh,

an approach here, I have yet to even begin my Bonnaroo dive.

Have you guys like the deep diving into the, into the festival?

Have you guys done this yet?

I've just gone as far as King Gizzard.

I mean, I'm still diving in on there.

Well, that might take you six months.

Yeah, that's taken all of my time.

That's pretty much what I've gotten into.

Haven't really listened to much else, but I am super excited

about this King Gizzard thing.

Well, I have not, I have not done my dive yet and I've done it on purpose

because I am not a, I can't wait guy.

I can wait.

I can always wait.

June will be here quickly and it's, I don't need to rush any of this stuff.

And I don't want to get tired of some of it either.

So I'm thinking probably by the time March rolls, I will start my dive.

And now it's so much easier with Spotify, but guys, I remember I'm going back to

the days of, you know, 10, 15 years ago where I would have to purchase the CDs

and have them sent to start my, to start my, my run.

And I love doing that because I love me old media.

Um, but so yeah, I'm, I'm still looking forward to, uh, I've got my, my list

started and everything, but I have not, I have not yet done it.

And it's because we got plenty of time.

I have not done the deep dive, uh, because we don't have all these schedules yet.

Uh, you know, there's, you don't want to spend too much time on something, you

know, you won't be at or something like that.

Well, that, and you know, maybe one of these smaller stages is going to Trump.

I mean, that's an excuse, uh, but it's partly true.

Uh, I have listened.

Uh, I think I told you a couple of weeks ago, Dom Dala.

Uh, yeah, I know.

Um, the, uh, uh, David Joel balance and Bray, uh, one of our, our listeners said

I need to check it out because it's kind of like a EDM Beastie Boys.

And obviously that, that triggered and that is 100% correct.

Well, that's what you were talking about in the, in the pre-show meeting.

That's right.

Gen Z Beastie Boys.

Cause they're kids.

I mean, they're young.

Yeah.

I was referring to, uh, our soundstage, David, who said, uh, on the, on our, uh,

on lineup day live show was like my Aussie brother, Dom Dala.

I was like, all right, it's good stuff.

I got to give that guy or that group or whatever is, I got to give that a look and

listen.

So, so I, I mean, I have been, uh, you know, randomly going through Spotify and

trying to, um, listen to some stuff, but not like, you know, the deep, deep, deep

stuff.

And part of that is too, I want to have our, we keep bringing him up.

Brad Steiner.

Uh, I'd like to have him back on.

Brad is a radio programmer guy out of New York and always has some insights.

Uh, Brian, uh, a hundred percent accurately says Brad's a dick and, um, and he

pisses this off, but he typically has at least one or two spot on don't sleep on

this band, uh, tips.

And, uh, we, I want to have him on to, you know, share some of that with us.

Yeah.

Brad's a salty character.

And, um, so, I mean, so are we all at some point in some way.

Um, yeah, I look forward to having Brad on too.

Just, I mean, he'll make fun of me for 20 minutes of the show.

Come on, Brad, you got anything new over there, buddy?

It's been about 20 years now.

Come on.

You're, you're the re you're the smart guy.

You're the funny guy on the radio.

Come up with something new, dude.

Um, but I do, but he is, I mean, in programming, he does it on air too, across

the country, but sorry, that on air work you do, Brad is awful.

I've sat there in his house listening to him do it in New York.

It's horrible.

What they're doing on a national basis to drop in, like he's doing Seattle

and Miami and Detroit all in the same day, all in the same hour.

And it's annoying.

Sorry to go too far into the weeds on the industry stuff, but he's always

tease, he did weather and sports updates.

And then he would say, no, I do fart jokes.

That's what I do for a living.

It's now, well, see he was so lucky to be able to do that.

Then now it's just, Hey, Seattle music go.

It's really, it's so generically bad, but the programming that he does and the

people that he works with in, in, uh, Odyssey, uh, in New York, I mean, one of

the biggest radio companies in the world is all the programming is, is

scientifically done stuff.

And he knows music and what's trending and what's working better than anybody.

I know.

And when he says something to me about an artist, their trajectory, where

they've been, where they're going, he's just about right every time.

And it takes every bit of me to sit here and say that.

And, and, but it's so factual.

I, he deserves the credit for that.

So I love it.

We would love to have him on and talk about it.

Look forward to having him on.

Uh, what was the other news?

What else did we want to get?

We want to talk about our contest here a little bit more.

Uh, yeah, we'll get to those.

I've got some, uh, entries queued up.

We can listen to a little bit later.

Yeah.

We've been just kind of half assed without questions, you know, uh, to have fun with.

You mentioned old media and I don't know if you looked at it,

but it's still a few months away.

The record store day, uh, release.

I'm glad you brought that up.

Came out.

And, uh, if you, did you look down that?

Cause there's a lot of stuff on there.

I have one in particular though, but go, go with some of those things

you saw that jumped off the page.

Taka.

I was hoping you had looked at it so I wouldn't have to try to remember.

Well, while you do that, I'll tell you the one that jumped off the page.

That absolutely I have to have because this year I had yet to see one,

uh, release for record store day that I almost every year, not every single year

of my life, but most times I grab at least one release on, on our RSD day.

Me too.

And this year it's a little earlier, just mark your calendars.

It's usually closer to the 20th.

It's on the 12th this year and, uh, post Malone who I would have never had a good

word or even just any word, like just, I'd just be neutral to almost maybe closer

to negative on post Malone for, for right or wrong reasons until the Bonnaroo show

last year where that what stage was as explosive, like literally, sorry to use

the word I hate, uh, it was exploding.

It was like the, some of the best pyrotechnics and stage production I

have seen, I couldn't leave the post Malone show.

I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

So when I heard he had an RSD release, I had to take a look at it and it's his

COVID sessions of, of his Nirvana electric, just plain, not like changed up

versions, just, Hey, let's, because we're bored, we're all going to connect on

three different zoom calls and we're going to play Nirvana songs just like

they're written here we go.

Like, and, and it's, it's pretty good.

And they're releasing that on a colored vinyl and an RSD release.

And I have to have it for my Nirvana nineties love.

And because of my new found appreciation for post Malone.

So that is my this year's RSD.

Yeah.

One that jumps out at me is this, uh, rainbow kittens, a prize RKS 10th

anniversary album, uh, that's one of my favorite albums and I have the original

on vinyl, so picking up the 10th anniversary looks, it looks pretty cool.

See, there's a lot of different approaches to record store day.

There's re-releases, there's just colored vinyl only releases.

And then there's specific only to that day releases.

I tend to gravitate to the specifically release for only those day releases

because I think it gives me a sense of, um, scarcity a little bit.

That might not be real, but that's what I feel in my head when I purchase like,

Oh, there's only 2000 or the 20,000 or 200.

Yeah.

Got it.

Doesn't really mean anything, but, um, but yeah, a lot of different

approaches you can take to record store.

Well, and you know, all these releases, not every record store is going to get

every single one, you know, our records are in town might just get a handful of

these.

So sometimes you never really know.

I think you might be able to, you know, kind of call them ahead of time and, and

see if what they're going to get and if they can get it, but otherwise it's kind

of the luck of the draw.

So it's good to have a few in mind just in case the one you really want isn't there.

It's taken a long time, but that little niche idea every year has really, has

really worked for the, for the industry.

But it's also, boy, I mean, we know the owners here of record stores and you can

talk to them.

It's, it's a dangerous game to buy up a bunch of inventory, you know, in anything

and, and, and, you know, our economy these days that involves retail and

inventory, it's such a way to back yourself up or a way to have a big, big,

big day.

And then if you run out, you piss people off.

They don't come back.

Like that's, that's a, that's a recipe.

I do not want to have any involvement in.

Just sounds.

Yeah.

That's why we're not business people.

I know.

That's why there's no more quarter records.

That's why we're broke.

Yeah.

Thank God for Chad.

Also true.

Speaking of, I want to go back when I was going back, talking about our

history and everything I meant to say, and we've talked about this before.

If you go to the what podcast.com Russ has done a beautiful job of organizing

everything you can go to our guests or, and, or topics and you can see the old

shows, I have to confess, I'm surprised people don't go back and listen more

like to Ashley caps or any of the others.

To me, the episodes are pretty evergreen.

Um, I mean, we talk, you know, we, we, the artists that we've had, we're

playing that year's Bonnaroo, but it's not like the topics were specific to

that year's Bonnaroo, uh, like if you're into, uh, Devin Gathillion or, or I'm

just going through the list, uh, you know, well, you guys had Noah con on for

crying out Noah con blue up grace Potter.

That was a great interview.

They're all, uh, Jim James, my favorite interview.

Um, you know, that again, that we, he talked about, uh, that 2004, uh, in the

rain show that was so epic that they released the live record, uh, for, yeah.

That was a record store day released too.

If I remember

I'm pretty sure that was his only interview.

Right, Ross.

There.

I never saw it anywhere else.

And he, he talked about, uh, standing on stage in the rain and having, you know,

sort of mental health issues.

He kind of looked like he was coming out of a Bob Ross painting.

You know, that's right.

He kind of had this like glow around him coming out of like this

sleepy hollow scene or something.

Uh, it was really cool.

He dialed in from a hotel in Belgium.

I guess they were on that.

Yeah.

And it looked like he was doing it from his closet.

It was just like, he's in a void of just blackness.

It looked like it was done by design.

Yeah.

It was a look exactly like this.

Um, but I mean, you remember him saying, uh, you know, I'm, he was barefoot

standing on a wet stage thinking if I die right now, it's okay.

And this is, wow.

Anyway, I obviously I'm hyping our list, but I just, if you're looking

at the list, cause for me mostly, cause I couldn't keep up, you know, we had

trouble remembering who we had on and when, and oh, I think that we had them on

in 2017, no it was 2018 and so just for me, but it's good to have it online just

to kind of go back and pick up all that stuff.

You're nothing if not completely organized.

Yes.

Taco.

Thank God.

So if you do want to find all that it is there.

Yeah.

As opposed to me and Barry, me the worst.

I am the worst.

Yeah.

I keep things, you know, a little notepad going, but outside of that, I'm pretty

scattered.

Uh, we got, go on seven, eight years of shows.

They all do kind of run together just like Bonnaroo's.

It's hard to remember, keep track of.

So it is good to have an organized searchable, you know, way of actually

finding past content.

So I hope people do go back and listen.

Cause you're right.

There's a ton of stuff on there.

We had Ed O'Brien.

From Ed O'Brien, Radiohead, uh, and I remember that one cause he, yeah.

Well, Ed O'Brien, remember he did that one from his, I guess, castle where he

lives out in England.

And there were these giant windows like behind him and he had no lighting in the

front.

He, it, you couldn't even tell it was at O'Brien, but we promise it is.

He just looked like this dark shadowy figure.

And I forgot about that.

Yeah.

He looked like he was staging that strategically.

And how are you going to tell Ed O'Brien?

Oh, can you,

Hey, can you fix your lighting over there, buddy?

Yeah.

You ever done this?

Are you new here?

Are you new to this?

Exactly.

Can you stop and fix this?

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

So I hope people will go back.

And like I said, they're not, I don't think they're dated.

Uh, you know, there might be a, you know, what are you going to do for this

Bonnaroo or whatever, but even that's fun to listen to.

Well, I think it's the, um, a little bit of the Pacific ocean of, of content

availability that, that we've, and the just old, the, the technological

advances have made old, bad, new, good, old phone, bad, new phone, good,

old computer, bad, new phone, good old show, bad new show.

Good.

I, it just seems to just recycle ever.

It's just this mindset that it, technology's gotten young to all, all

ages into just thinking rather than enjoying and, and, and reflecting on

things that were passed, it's all about what's new, what's next, what's new,

what's new, and I think that's a damn shame that we're not paying more attention.

And I'm going a little bit sideways here, sorry, but on things that were more

past and, and, and being a very happy with those reflections and, and then,

you know, going from there and reshaping the discussion, but it does feel like to

me, technology is just deemed old, bad, new, good.

Let's go.

That's unfortunate.

And then I'll guess I'll leave it at that.

It is.

And it's just the way it is.

People will click on, you know, the new episode, they'll check it out

and then they'll move on and you're right.

It, there's a ton of choices of what to watch, what to listen to that.

Yeah.

It's only 24 hours in a day, man.

They run out quick.

That's right.

Get it.

They run out really quick.

I get it.

Maybe we need to look through Russ.

I don't know how many acts are on this year's lineup that we've had before.

Crung been, I know, but crung, when that was another one of my favorite interviews.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's just so many and, you know,

Mount joy, I think is on the bottom.

We line up this year.

We interviewed them back in 2019.

It's been a while.

I've been on the band, on the Mount joy bandwagon early.

That's one I got early.

I love that band.

Love them.

And just, you know, the Paul Jan away St.

Paul and the broken bones.

One of our early ones, still one of my favorites.

It was so good.

We made two episodes out of it and it still makes me laugh.

So yeah, he's a fun guy.

Yeah, that was great.

And he will, he is as friendly as it gets to that guy will, he'll give you all the

time shirt off his back, he'll let you borrow a dollar.

I mean, this guy is a good dude.

All right.

Uh, sorry to jump backwards there.

What else?

What am I, what else are we forgetting?

We need to talk about the contest and play some of those.

We'll roll a couple of entries and maybe kick around this question for a minute and

then get ready for a bunch of junk food and a, and a crappy football game here.

Question last week was name an artist that you didn't think or wasn't even on

your radar, but you, you left the festival with a new favorite.

Yeah.

And so for last year, that's everybody's answer is most people's answer is, is

chapel and that's certainly mine.

Um, and I don't know if we got a bunch of answers for that Russ, but you got some

other answers from, uh, previous questions, which was, uh, show re visiting a show.

If there was one show, what's one show you attended that you wish you could do over?

Let me answer this real quick.

So in quickly, when we brought this up in the last couple of weeks, I just said my

first thing for some reason was Neil Young, Oh three.

Well, I don't know why I thought of that other than it was, I saw the show, but it

didn't go as well as my first time I was on the farm for the whole weekend.

So I w and I was very young, so there was a lot I would do differently, but let's

get right down to I'm, I'm burying the major lead here.

It's Pearl Jam 2016.

When I go to meet the girl who stiffs me out in the middle of the field while all

of you or whoever, but taco, you weren't there yet.

We're in the pit up front, like five rows out equivalency.

And I'm standing around being left alone, standing around waiting on the, she did

show up for a minute, stayed for one song and left the stories longer than that.

I won't bore you anymore.

There was a weather alert that night.

We had to shelter for a minute.

Everything got moved for about 30 minutes or so.

So there's a little bit of chaos amongst that.

That didn't last too long.

Everything returned to normal and I'm sitting out there standing

around holding the rope.

Barry, remember your comment from the story of the Woodstock story.

Brian hold a rope with no friends.

Yeah, that's what it was.

And then here comes everybody, Brad and Hillary and I've camped up better people

like looking at me and I'm just, I look like I was defeated.

Like I just had lost the super bowl.

Like every else just staring the show's over.

There's fireworks shooting off Saturday night and they're like, what's wrong with

me?

I was like, I just ruined my whole life.

Was that the day you spent all day in the car listening to getting pregame?

No, that was years before.

That was years before.

That was years before.

This was just about a girl.

She was pretty and she was a nice enough girl, but not that nice because she, she

ditched me.

She ditched me and all my friends, half of them, which don't barely care about the

band Pearl Jam are all having a big time.

Then the next guys, the next week, because social media wasn't moving as fast then

it's still fast, but not as fast as now.

I started seeing their pictures like four or five days later and I had a whole new

rage that came back and I started texting and commenting and I even got mad at the

girl and it's like, I can't believe what you did to me.

Right.

So there you go.

And that's my bad, not hers.

Oh yeah.

Like I would like to redo that show again.

That's funny.

And that would be in the pit.

Be in the pit.

So what do we got for this week to screw around with from some of the listeners?

Yeah, speaking of shows to redo, well, let's do this.

Let's take a break real quick and then we'll come back and we'll play some of these

voicemails and stuff and we got a fax.

All right.

You ready to get into some of these?

Yeah.

All right.

Hope you patron all our sponsors into it or whatever it is.

Tax returns.

Sorry.

Yeah.

So we get a fax.

This is from Bosco off of our discord who has, I think this is the third fax he sent

now.

He keeps saying he has to keep the bit going, which I respect.

I do too.

He says, uh, he's got two different answers and he's embarrassed about both of them.

He said, we all should be.

Yeah.

Lord here I'm playing on the witch stage in 2022.

I feel like all my friends have been talking about them for a long time.

I had never got around to listening to their Bonnaroo set and was blown away.

And that's, I think that's a pretty good point because when we talk about doing this

deep dive, sometimes I don't want to do a deep dive on everything.

I do want to genuinely be surprised.

You know, when you come across a band, you're like, holy shit, this is good.

Yeah.

And just have no prior knowledge.

Yeah.

I think there's a fine line on that to do too much and not enough.

Uh, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

And he says the second artist is Wolf Peck from 2023.

I was sort of familiar with them.

People were so excited for that one.

Yeah.

He said, uh, their stage presence just elevates it to another level and

it made him a fan for life.

They even stopped in the middle of the show and had a full wedding on stage.

Did you guys know that?

I didn't know that there was a full wedding at the Wolf Peck show.

He says it's on their YouTube page.

All right.

Well, I know they have plenty of them over in the house of match.

Matt True moon at Matt True.

Well, however they say it.

Yeah.

No, I did not know that, but I do remember that, uh, Wolf, Wolf Peck,

Wolf Peck, whatever their name is, that they were, uh, that was a hot act that

year.

Yes, it was.

Yeah.

23.

I'm wearing my Bonnaroo 2020 three shirt right now.

So, uh, well, let's see this one.

Uh, let's go this one.

We'll go with Ronnie.

Hey, what podcast?

This is Ronnie Robinson.

I'm just calling in entering this contest.

Um, one of the shows I know I wish I could go back to is the white stripes

show on the witch stage.

I was just 2007 or out from that Bonnaroo was 2007, I do believe.

And I just didn't have the energy to push through all that dust and all that

crowd.

You messed up.

Right.

I wish I could have gotten a little bit closer because it was hard hearing it

from way in the back with this crowd.

And that stage was that year.

And then also most recently, I wish I could go back to that Odessa show.

Uh, I have a lot of love for my morning jacket.

I knew it was going to be a three hour or longer set.

So I made sure to get in a good spot to get into the fit and everything.

And I'm pretty much all of Odessa's show and going back, I went and saw

Odessa later on the tour and I was, I very much regretted doing that because

that production looked amazing and it would have been great to see out there

in the field.

But other than that for 11 years ago into Bonnaroo so far made it to most of

the shows I've really wanted to make it to, which I feel pretty lucky in that.

I like to study the, uh, the lineup and go through everything and make sure I

find out exactly what it is I like and when I want to be around my biggest

mistake also, I guess would be my very first Bonnaroo, uh, 2006.

I missed most of Tom Petty's set.

So I saw the first beginning part and then walked away.

So I was mainly there for Radiohead that year is my first Bonnaroo.

And I really wasn't understanding to seize every opportunity to see what's out

there because you might not get to see it again and missing Tom Petty when,

uh, Stevie Nicks came out.

That, that, that was very disappointing as well.

I wish I could go back to that.

But, uh, it is what it is.

It looks like a very beautiful Bonnaroo this year.

I love the lineup.

I have something to do every single day this year, uh, with multiple acts to see.

It's great.

Uh, I'm loving it as a vet.

Uh, this has brought a lot of excitement to my heart.

So I will see you all out there at Bonnaroo this year.

Much love.

Thank you, man.

Yeah.

He is all, he is very much correct to be upset about missing that

show.

Seven white stripes show.

Um, I went to that because I w I'm not, I wasn't a big stripes fan then on

really not in either now.

I love Jack white, um, but not as much as band.

And after I saw that, I was like, okay, I saw it.

I needed that, that one.

That was great.

And, uh, our local radio guide, Jeff Stiles is who drug me off to that one.

I would not have done that on my own.

And so I am indebted to him for that one.

So that was awesome.

And then that Oh six Tom Petty show that was a little different.

I think, didn't he make it three times?

I think he came two more times.

Now I know one more, but I think two more.

I know at least one, cause that was the, that was my myth.

That was the one I was going to stay the Sunday night.

And yeah, I skipped one of those called me like three o'clock and said, I got

us pit passes cause she was working with the festival and she said, I got us in.

And I said, cool.

And then I sat down in a chair and got comfortable 20 minutes later and said,

I am going.

Well, those next two, I felt like they were oversaturating the petty thing.

Like I don't need petty over and over again, but I'm a big Tom Petty,

huge Tom Petty guy.

That Oh six show was the most authentic and real show that he did on the farm.

And there was no mention of Stevie Nicks being there zero, or at least I didn't

know, I mean, and I think I probably should have, I worked for a classic rock

and roll radio station, a hundred thousand Watts that reached that far.

I should have known that.

And I, and so that was a huge surprise to everybody.

That was also the first year they started to play around with not doing jam.

So that's radio head Tom Petty.

They didn't have classic rock artists.

They didn't have legacy acts before that.

It was the legacy act was Bob Weir or Phil Lash or Mickey heart or whatever

variation of the day was playing with whoever Warren Haynes was with that week,

Stuart Copeland from the police or something.

And so that was a transitional year, which to me made it that much better

because it, it, it blended what I love the most jam at the time and just good

old fashioned, not jam, good rock and roll and classic rock.

And that was a really transitional year.

So those are two great examples of, of early days of, of Monteros.

So thank you for sending those in.

Yeah.

Good call.

All right.

So I'm thinking this question.

Go ahead, Ross.

Oh, I had some more, but if you want to

speak question, okay.

This is Caroline from East nasty East Nash.

My favorite place.

Hey, this is Caroline from East Nashville.

So I'm a little behind.

Uh, I have been traveling the past week and, um, so I'm just touching up on the

podcast and the question from last week was just so good that I felt like it was

important to call in and give my answer.

Cause I, um, like Barry also wish that I could have experienced BC boys, um,

different, uh, I did not know.

I mean, you know, I, I don't know exactly what was happening or I don't really

remember, but I remember just kind of like chilling and just kind of taking

it in, um, pretty passively.

Uh, I think it had been like a long day or whatnot.

I also think at one point I like dipped out to get food for a while.

Um, and obviously in retrospect, I just wish that I had fully absorbed that show.

Um, I mean, yeah, it's just, it's just crazy, uh, to think about what he was

going through at that time and then what would happen quickly after.

So definitely on mine.

Um, but a big one for me, uh, and kind of like actually had a big impact on how I

live in life now, um, is in 2015, I was a Bonnaroo and I had to travel for work.

And so I actually left Bonnaroo, um, on the day that Angela D'Angelo was playing

like a couple hours before, so I could get on a plane and go travel for work.

Um, and I am just beside myself 10 years later that I missed D'Angelo.

I missed him playing black Messiah.

Um, the Vanguard is just such an incredible band.

He's great.

And I just, I really beat myself up for it still.

Um, I also missed him in 2012 when he came out and did the

super jam with Questlove.

Um, he's obviously just not someone who plays very often.

Uh, so I still just kind of beat myself up over that.

Uh, so it's not that I like wish I had experienced it differently.

I wish I had experienced it at all.

Um, because I, uh, went, went with the work thing instead.

And, um, you know, honestly that trip and that choice is kind of, uh, forms that,

you know, I got to work will always be there.

Um, Bonnaroo and these experiences and things like that won't always, um, so I

always tried to now power through, really clear my schedule, power through if I'm

tired, power through if I, all of these things to really see these artists, um,

that I want to see.

And I just hope one day I will get to see D'Angelo again and would absolutely

love it if it was on the farm.

Um, thanks so much.

Y'all.

Yeah.

Great.

Thank you.

Yeah.

I mean, there's a certain level of you do have to, we, we, I mean, I think I

could tell in a tone of her voice, she does understand this, but you're gonna,

these, these disappointments are just part of it.

They're just built in.

They're going to happen.

I could give you a way more list of them if I wanted to the, uh, quickly, the,

that I forgot I wrote down while our last caller was called and he was talking

about missing his show because he couldn't leave another one.

Uh, when Buffalo Springfield played with, uh, the reunion with Richie

Ferre, Stephen Stills, Neil Young, and whoever else, uh, part of the band.

I was stuck over at the witch.

I couldn't leave because of my guy Neil and black keys were playing, uh, about

the start and everybody's heading over to the, what, you know, my favorite stage

in the world to see a great rock band and I can't leave them right here for Neil.

They play like three more songs.

And by that time I miss all the black keys into this day.

I was 2011 this day.

I've still never seen black keys because I miss that show because of that.

But that was a decision I had to make.

Yeah.

You're going to miss something.

Which one are you going to miss?

Yeah.

Can't see them all.

I appreciate her call that beastie boys.

I saw it all.

I just was like, you know, and I took it in, but I, again, it was, it was the

opposite of that is the 2008, my morning jacket, which was my second full year there.

I didn't know who they were.

Um, but I mean, it was three hours.

I think I saw half of it and felt really good about that.

You know, maybe even a little more than

which stage were they on that year?

Which, which in the rain,

because they were on the what in the 10, 2010, they w they had moved up to the

what on like an evening said that's one of my favorite, my morning jacket shows

was two years later.

But I mean, I've, I've said this.

That was the show that I fell in love with Bonnaroo.

I came home and I listened, but to nothing, but my morning jacket for two years.

And I'm talking about repeat.

I would listen to it and then I would hear repeat and listen to it again.

Uh, fell in love, uh, with that band.

Cause to me, they were the perfect.

We talked about this.

They're the perfect Bonnaroo.

They are the perfect Bonnaroo.

And you can, when you hear it, you can smell the farm.

You can feel that tree right there in front of the witch.

You know, cause they have so many legendary moments, uh, over the

course of the whole time.

And I, I give them a hard time.

You know, that most of half of that's ingest.

Um, and it's anecdotally boring to go into.

I, my morning jackets are very bad.

I got it.

It's just, it is kind of one of those seeing them enough guys, but, uh, but,

but I, they're, what, for me, they're like panic from widespread panic.

You're, y'all are invited anytime.

Like if, if at any point y'all want to come play any, if we're here, you're invited.

Yeah.

I think that, I think that's a, that's a, I don't know that that's true, but it

feels like it is it was with Greg Allman and Allman before he died.

Y'all want to play?

Come on in.

Absolutely.

And I liked that.

And you never know when it might be the last time you see somebody like that.

Beastie boys show was the last one ever.

Well, I'm just, we've mentioned a lot of dead people here.

John, you know, I'm Petty.

I'm Brian.

I was trying to think of a way to ask this question that some of those acts like,

uh, and I don't know that it's a question, but maybe it's just a topic.

The back, the, the people that you've seen because it was Bonnaroo and they have

a hundred acts that you never thought you would see Alan Toussaint Elvis

Costello comes to my mind.

Um, Larry Graham.

Oh, it's like, basically it was an act that you had to see because you would

never have expected them to be at Bonnaroo or at your spot.

The next day you wake up or, or a week later or a year later, you think,

Oh my God, I saw that guy.

I didn't know who he was.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

That would be maybe a John, John prime for me.

Prime.

Well, I saw then, but yes, I only knew the name.

Yeah.

You know, Larry Graham was with the super jam with, uh, John Oates and, uh,

Billy Idol, uh, that one.

Larry Graham for people who don't know, basically invented the slap bass.

I mean, he's the guy, you know, uh, that's, that's kind of what I mean.

It's like, Oh my God.

You know, um, yeah, you don't quite get it in the moment kind of thing.

Don't get it in the moment.

And that's kind of part of my wish I could realize kind of thing.

Um, now the question this week in honor of, uh, Brad Steiner, I guess, if you

were, if you're going with someone, uh, maybe that's their first time, uh, who

is the act that you are going to take them by the hand, you know, we've talked

about on here, everybody go do your own thing.

Don't have to be in a group.

Don't try to be in a group.

That's my man.

Go see your act, go see your act.

But there's usually one, you know, you're like, all right, Russ, Brian,

you gotta go with me.

I gotta walk you through it up and go to this one.

I gotta walk you through this one.

I gotta, I gotta set it up.

I gotta set it.

I gotta set the scene.

Yeah.

Who's that?

I come, we become the annoying guy when we do that, but if we're doing it with the

right person, they understand why we're doing it.

Yeah.

And you, you know, there's some trust.

Uh, so who is that act this year that you're gonna, you know, come on guys, we

gotta go.

All right.

Yeah.

I'd have to do a little, my, uh, look at it and do some thinking.

I'll get back to you in a week.

Yeah.

I don't have a name.

I just thought of the question, but I don't have a name.

So we'll see.

All right.

One more and then we can get out of here.

Is that so?

Awesome.

Do it.

Sounds good to me.

Okay.

This is a Kiefer.

What's up?

What podcast?

My name is Kiefer Vance.

I'm from Des Moines, Iowa.

This will be my fifth room.

Um, I'm going to answer the question from last week's episode.

I don't know if I missed this prompt period, but it was what show would you

like to redo up on her?

And I have two answers, uh, from the same year, 2019, uh, lonely Island.

I grew up on that on the Andy Samberg and I was like 12 or 13 during like the

lonely Island prime, so to say, and, um, I would have to like sneak off and like

watch it very quietly on my phone.

Cause if my mom heard, I would have gotten in trouble for sure.

Um, but yeah, so I was with people who I don't think understood exactly what

they were about to see and, um, more as enthusiastic for the lonely Island

as maybe I was, but I still got to enjoy the show.

Uh, just maybe if I was with some people, could have a little more,

could have got a better spot.

And then the second is Brock Hampton from that same year.

I spent two hours, um, unlike the, the which stage rail out in the field.

And what I could have done during those two hours, but I didn't understand how

it worked at the time was wait in the pit line to go into the show from the pit.

But you know, it is what it is.

Uh, so yeah, those are the two I would definitely want to go back and relive,

I guess, and try again, but you know what it is, what it is.

Side note, I have managed to get on the Roobus podcast and the Rue Ham podcast.

So if you guys get me in the show, that would complete the Trisecta, collected

all the infinity group podcast, gemstones, whatever you want to call it.

Uh, yeah, that'd be, it'd be really cool.

It'd be like a dream come true.

So yeah, peace out happy room.

He's hitting the circuit.

Bingo cards for, and I gotta say, uh, man with a name like Kiefer Vance, man,

you're going places, dude.

That's a good name.

That's a strong name.

That's a good name.

I don't know what it's going to get you in life, but if you work it right,

it's going to get you something.

Kiefer Vance.

That's a great name, man.

Good call too.

Thanks for, uh, welcome to the podcast.

That's funny.

Yeah.

Good answer.

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