Last week, Barry took The What crew through his must-see artists of Bonnaroo 2023. This week, it's Lord Taco's turn to make his picks!
The man known for identifying babies as babies and for rating every PBR he's ever consumed offers his thoughts on who you should see on The Farm this year, including artists like Fleet Foxes, Franz Ferdinand, Paramore, and more. Between all of the lineup wisdom, he also finds time to give a recap of his Shaky Knees experience.
Listen in to hear who Taco's most excited about, and then see what's got him so hyped by checking out his curated Spotify playlist featuring all of his favorite artists from this year's festival here.
Let Taco share his reflections and artist picks with you in this week's episode. You can also watch the full discussion via YouTube. And while you're at it, do us a solid by liking, reviewing, and subscribing to The What wherever you get your podcasts.
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It's silly season in Bonnaroo land.
You can start to smell the farm and as we do, we start to smell Lord Tacos picks.
They smell weirdly like PBR.
Who will tacos see on the farm this year at Bonnaroo?
Plus we have schedule news.
It's all today on the What Podcast.
Barry Courter, Brad Steiner, we start it.
We're always trying to do your best.
Don't worry about what happens next.
Welcome in kids.
Welcome back.
How are you?
I'm great.
Hi.
Yeah, hi.
Good morning.
Sunshines and daisies.
Everybody feeling fresh and happy.
How's everybody doing?
It's funny you said we can start smelling the farm.
I thought you were going to say it's because the humidity has hit that Tennessee high.
Has it?
Oh my gosh.
Sure has.
Yeah, it's hot.
Last week is unbelievable and this is early.
Yeah.
I know that this is totally useless, but around about May 18th, I start looking at the long
range 30 day forecast and it always ends up being 20% chance of rain and 97.
That's every year no matter what happens.
Yep.
Yep.
How's it going down there?
How's it feel?
Everything's good other than the humidity.
What is the high this weekend?
Well, I don't even know.
80?
About 80.
Yeah, the temperature hasn't been that bad.
It's just that the humidity has hit us so soon, so early.
Really?
Yeah.
Which is maybe good.
Get used to it.
Get used to it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Brad, don't even bother working out.
You fool.
Yeah.
But yeah, get used to the humidity.
Sure.
Yeah.
Good luck with that.
Good luck.
So I love this time of the year because this is silly season in Bonnaroo land because this
is about when you get with your team.
It's when you get with your group, you get with your camping buddies and you start, you
know, hey, so what do we want to bring this year?
And this is about the anniversary of when we all got together at Camp Nut Butter and
Barry said, you know, I'd like some live chickens.
It's still a goal.
Fresh eggs in the morning.
Fresh eggs in the morning.
I just think waking up with a chicken clucking around would be hilarious.
Our goal every year was as soon as the lineup was really, I'm sorry, as soon as the schedule
was released, that's when we'd get everybody together and we'd start like mapping out what
we wanted the weekend to look like, what everybody still had from the year before and how we
wanted the campsite to sort of to sort of look.
I will never forget.
I don't know.
Taco wasn't there.
Barry, you probably were.
The early years of Camp Nut Butter, I used to have a map that how I wanted the campsite
to be set up.
I would plot everybody's little tents and where the carpet would go and where the kitchen
would go and quickly realize that is the stupidest waste of time.
Yeah.
Well, it's so weird.
I've talked about this before.
My first four or five years, I don't camp.
So it was kind of panic.
You know, I got to bring everything.
We've talked about that.
You know, it's like you were going to a third world country.
So you figured you had to bring, I think you've said, hatchets and machetes and first aid
kits and, you know, you got to be ready to kill for your food type of thing.
And now I'm like, as long as I have water, you know, and access to vending machines or
the food trucks that over there, I'll be all right.
You know, don't eat a lot.
Don't need nearly as much food as I originally thought.
So, Taco, do you buy for a second the Barry Courter could live off vending machine food?
I meant vendors.
Excuse me.
I was trying to think where are the vending machines?
I meant ATM machines to get cash.
You're right.
Oh my God, guys.
I just realized what we should bring.
A vending machine.
Vending machine.
Oh, that would be funny.
Oh my God.
That would be good.
So we now have it.
We have a mailbox next to our giant lit marquee and our white picket fence that surrounds
the entire campsite.
But we should have a vending machine, make some money on the side.
That is a good idea.
With all the things that you would need for Bonnaroo in the vending machine.
I like it.
That's funny.
Oh, guys.
Taco, you can whip up a vending machine, can't you?
Maybe.
You can build one.
Can we also get like a, can we get a claw machine too?
Oh my God, that would be so fun.
Skee ball.
That's going to make us a Dave and Busters.
Skee ball, yes.
I like it.
I like it.
I told you the silly season.
Yeah.
Here hockey.
Everything makes sense in this season, right?
You can start talking to your friends about whatever you wanted to bring and it all makes
sense and then you realize, I drive a Subaru.
Right, right.
Yeah, there's no bad ideas when you're talking about it.
But then when you realize you got a pack on it.
I can take it home.
And then Barry looks around as if like, Barry looks around and is like, I'm the only one
with the truck.
I'm going to be stuck in all of this.
I know, yes, yes.
I know.
I was thinking this morning that the first, I guess the first year you and I traveled
up together and you and Hillary packed your car and couldn't find room for the hula hoop.
That was how tight.
That was not the first year.
That was like 2019.
Okay.
I thought it was the first year we traveled together is what I.
No, no.
But your car was packed so tight, couldn't even get a hula hoop in it.
Couldn't get a hula hoop left.
No.
I will say though, do you guys have any special requests for camp this year?
Do you have anything that you want to bring or do you feel like this is a downsizing year?
Do you feel like our big over the top camp nut butter days are over?
Yeah, I do feel that way.
I mean, it'd be, it's different for Russ because he's going to go up probably tomorrow.
I'm already there.
Yeah.
I won't be there as many days.
I know that.
I'm not going Tuesday and Wednesdays iffy just because.
And they moved us.
We've talked about that.
It's a little bit different where we camp now and there are fewer people going from
camp nut butter.
Are you getting to the point where, and I know we are different than the casual podcast
listener, but are you getting to the point where you might think about camping and GA?
No, we talked about that last year.
Yeah.
It sounded like a good idea at first, but then we still got it pretty good back there.
I don't think we could give up a lot of that.
Proximity for one thing.
Okay, so there's one thing I want to talk about when it comes to actually getting to
the festival.
Did you see the news that actually it's on news.
We got an email from a listener who inquired about the shuttles from Nashville.
I don't know if you have it up, Barry, but if you want to read the highlights of this
email, which I knew like I had heard rumblings about them not doing the shuttles this year
for the first time.
I had heard that, but I hadn't actually like officially known it for sure yet.
This guy did the Lord's work and went and asked, went and asked Bonnaroo because, you
know, people count on these shuttles.
So he asked and he got a response from them and the answer was not good.
Right.
Let's see.
As of now, they are not doing shuttles this year.
Big news because he's got a bunch of people who fly in, so they're going to have to find
a way to get from Nashville, deal with all that traffic, going to cost him a lot of money.
You know, he's figuring a couple of three hundred dollars per person to figure out how
to get there.
So, so this is my dilemma.
I hate to make this personal, but if I'm coming in, I'm going to have to be flying and I would
fly into Nashville and my anticipation was to do one of two things.
Have you guys bring all my stuff in and just shuttled down?
I'm surprised.
I'm surprised.
I walk in and everything is set up for me.
Wouldn't that be nice?
Stay with it.
I could also stay, you know, on a bus with with some record labels, but I don't want
to do that.
I want to stay with you guys.
But the other option was to rent a car and drive in and just sleep in that car and, you
know, use some of the stuff that you guys would bring up for me.
And I would just sort of like supplement it around like a van that I rented.
But the shuttle being that it was available was my first option, not having the shuttle
now ensures that I have to rent a car that's going to cost me for two days.
If I do a Saturday night, Sunday night, that's going to be three hundred, four hundred dollars.
My God, I that was a that was a kick in the butt.
Makes it complicated, doesn't it?
And expensive.
Really expensive.
Yeah.
I mean, the flight in itself is not terrible.
It was the it was the rental car that was the hold up for me.
And you know, I'm just not in love with the idea of bringing a rental car to Bonnaroo,
which by the way, every year something has happened to my car.
Somebody has hit it.
Somebody is as you know, you know, I've flattened a tire.
Something has happened to my car every single year.
Yes, I would love to bring a rental car into the situation.
Make sure you get that insurance.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I guess you can't fly into Chattanooga, can you?
Too expensive.
It would be much more expensive.
Yeah.
I mean, even then I'd still have to rent a car.
It's not like I have some extra cars sitting in Chattanooga.
No, but there's usually somebody.
I do.
You want to borrow a car?
I need Russ to go through a few more breakups to have an extra car too.
Yeah.
Inventory is running low.
Oh my God.
If you could start a used car business and it's just called break up cars.
Break up cars.
You just get cars and breakups.
They don't break down.
They just break up.
That's why, I don't know if you know this, but that's how Big Heart and Smitty got his
name down there.
His heart was too big.
Internal Chattanooga joke for all those who don't understand who Big Heart and Smitty
is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This could be the next happy motors.
I was really, really bummed with, yeah, it's happy for you, not for them.
I was really bummed to hear about the lack of shuttle news.
I hope that's something that they readdress in the future.
It's probably too late now, but boy, I really hope that's something that they rethink.
It's an odd choice because they're right on the cusp of selling out, right?
You think you've got more people coming, you've got more people flying in, so shuttles seem
necessary.
You almost think some entrepreneur out there would realize there's an opportunity, set
up his own shuttle.
Yeah, but they already have.
Yeah.
The insurance risk.
The insurance risk is out of control though, or somebody just do it as a one-off.
Some company.
Yeah, I mean party bus it.
Let's party bus it.
Yeah.
All right.
The other thing, the other big news is of course schedule day.
The final tent pole in Bonnaroo season, the waiting for the schedule and the crossing
the fingers and hoping for no conflicts.
When you looked at your picks last week, Barry, and you go back in and you see the schedule
now that it is laid out for you, do you have any conflicts?
Did Barry's picks have any sort of issues?
Not really.
As we guessed, corn and my morning jacket are going to be opposite each other, but that
doesn't bother me.
Honestly, I think the schedule lays out perfect for me.
I kind of feel like it lays out perfect for almost everybody.
I don't know how they did it, but this is one of the few years where it feels as though
there are almost no complaints or bitching about the schedule.
Is that surprising?
I mean not just because there are no conflicts, but it lines up.
The shows I want to see follow another show.
Very, very impressive job.
Yep.
I mean there's a few, but nothing major.
In fact, it's really good.
You know, Diesel, at 2.30 in the morning, I don't remember what we said we thought that
would be, but that makes sense.
I don't know, Russ, did you have any?
I have very few conflicts.
I'm with you.
Everything just kind of laid out perfectly.
It's like the lanes that they've talked about.
There's a few that I want to walk by, but for the most part, most of the main shows
I want to hit, I don't have any conflicts.
Yeah, may I just say again, the complaint that I have about whatever platform they use
for their website, the way that they lay out their grid is just impossible to use.
How is it difficult to just make it the bubble top to bottom thing, but in the website, it's
this left to right grid that you have to scroll through.
It's impossible to use on your phone.
Please, somebody in Bonnaroo, stop using whatever platform this is for the schedule.
It drives me nuts every year that we do this.
All right, that's a nit to pick.
I think I found JPEGs on Reddit, but I'm with you.
I couldn't make it work on my computer even.
Yeah, the JPEGs are so much easier.
It's so much easier to deal with.
You know, Lindsey, your friend Lindsey, once again, he came through with the printable
schedules that are downloadable, either in Excel or PDF.
Funny thing is about that, you know, our old buddy Bryan Stone.
So what we ask in these meetings after the schedule comes out, when we put Camp Nut Butter
together, you know, we get everybody together.
We tell, we say what we want the campsite to look like, what all we still have from
last year, and what we want each person to bring that's new.
What's the thing that you're going to bring to camp this year?
And every year, Bryan Stone says he's bringing his laminated schedule, you know, the laminated
schedule that can hang there on the side and we can all just like look at it together.
And so lovely of him to spend hours and hours making his own schedule for us, which every
year, Barry, you can attest, was incorrect.
Every single year.
He had the wrong people playing on the wrong days, on the wrong stages.
I remember him coming back and saying like, man, I just make a band up.
I really hated Portugal the Man.
That band sucks.
I didn't even know they had a female singer.
And we'd look at it and be like, no, Brian, you got the wrong band.
You actually went to see the White Stripes.
I don't know.
He had no idea who he's looking at because his schedule was so wrong.
They didn't even play the hit, man.
Yeah.
Always wrong.
So be careful with the laminated schedule.
Don't trust Bryan Stone's laminated schedule.
No, go download Lindsay's.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is it a good one?
OK.
All right.
So yeah, the other thing too that drives me nuts about the, I hate to nitpick this thing
to death, but the thing that drives me nuts about the Boderu website schedule is that
2.30 in the morning, right?
Saturday morning.
That's Friday night.
Yeah.
I hate that I have to click Saturday for the 12.30 shows.
That drives me crazy.
So like if I want to find like Sylvan Esso on Friday night, it's Friday night.
It's not Saturday.
I know that I'm being really, really picky about this, but it's just such a hard website
to deal with.
Anyway, that's all I got.
Yeah, never mind.
I'm not going to even complain about the Monday schedule, which, you know, there is a Monday
schedule because they can't get the calendar right.
All right.
Anyway, doesn't matter.
This episode is not about any of that.
It's not about nitpicking.
It's not about Barry's schedule or shuttle's or my flight.
It is about Mr. Russ Jackson, Lord Taco.
It is the most eagerly anticipated moment of the year where we get Lord Taco's picks
on the What Podcast.
We will do it next.
It's Lord Taco Day where we celebrate all things, Russ Jackson and although, you know,
we should have all been having a PBR right now, Barry, in honor of Lord Taco and his
picks.
I feel like we did for sure.
Sorry.
You owe me you owe me a PBR.
I got for it.
Yeah.
All right.
This is Lord Taco pick day.
So I anticipate we start June 2nd.
Well I wanted to recap Shaky Knees first before we get into.
Let's do that at the end.
Let's get through the picks and we'll do Shaky Knees at the end.
Yeah, let's do that at the end.
OK.
I don't want to like people have been waiting 360 some odd days for this taco.
Biggest show.
The most listen to show of the year.
Lord Taco's picks.
So I don't want to waste any more time.
OK.
All right.
Well, we'll recap Shaky Knees at the end.
Where do you when do you plan on leaving?
When do I plan on leaving?
Yeah, it's a kind of up in the air.
I mean, I do want to leave like Tuesday, Monday or Tuesday.
Just comes down to vehicle preparedness at this point.
How's it going?
How's the vehicle going?
No updates yet.
Oh, still waiting.
Yeah.
So yeah, do you call on a regular basis and like every few days you're like, hey, can
you just check it in?
No, that's not like a live webcam.
No, you can check it.
Yeah, we'll see if it.
All right.
Well, I've got a backup plan.
So have you have you?
What is it?
Well, I don't want to I don't want to give it away yet.
You know, figures cross.
Buses engine gets put in and then I just drive the bus.
But if not, I have a backup vehicle in the wings.
So we'll see.
We'll see if we get to that.
It's another breakup.
It's a break van.
It's a breakup bus.
That's why I didn't want to give it away.
I hadn't told her.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, yeah.
She's she's going to be upset.
Honey, I've got some bad news.
Can you listen to our latest episode of the podcast for me, please?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm going to need those keys.
Those keys.
Hey, boys, come get my keys.
All right.
Well, at least we got a backup plan.
All right.
Yeah.
I'll be there.
Yeah, hopefully I'll be there, you know, Tuesday, Wednesday.
But as far as picks go, let's start with Thursday.
All right.
Thursday.
Here we go, Barry.
I'm very excited.
I don't even know what to expect, but I know this can be a baby involved.
Let's do it.
All right.
Hopefully not.
But Thursday, I want to start at the who stage.
I'm going to my first band on here is the medium.
Tell me about the medium.
I know the medium.
Please tell.
They sound like the Beatles straight up.
I mean, it's the weirdest thing, but you know, four piece band, they harmonize and it's clear
that they're heavily inspired by the Beatles.
So I want to check them out.
That's a 515 at the who stage.
Surprising you're going to go with a band that's playing far later in the afternoon.
Oh, wait, no, they're playing it.
They're playing at the Toyota Music Den too at noon, not the who stage.
Are they?
Yeah.
So which show are you going to go to?
You got two.
You're going to go to the early 12 o'clock show or are you going to the...
Well, I might go to the early 12 o'clock.
Yeah.
I left early Thursday just pretty open.
But their who stage performance.
The reason I bring that up is because you're the kind of guy that wants to be at the first
show of the day.
You want to be the first one in center.
Yeah, sometimes.
Yeah.
But the reason I picked them, their who show stage is right after them.
That kind of leads into Angel, Satan, Queen also playing the who stage.
That band sounds good.
Tell me about them.
I love it.
I think you know all about them, but that's your former intern friend, Becca Cassie.
What I love about this is that they have a 45 minute set.
I mean, good for them.
I mean, starting a band within a year and having 45 minutes of material that you can
play a Bonnaroo.
Yeah.
That's a good thing for you.
That's true.
I'm very excited about that.
I hate that I don't want to miss that show.
Well, yeah, that's why I just thought those would be a good back to back opener for the
who stage.
Okay.
And then at 8 o'clock, I actually want to get out to the, I think it's Plaza 1 or 2
and check out the Hogslop String Band.
Oh, look at you.
Yeah.
All right.
You're getting the Galactic Giddy up.
Nice, nice.
Getting to the Galactic Giddy up.
Yeah, we've talked about them and I think they liked our mention of them and so they
seem cool.
Nice.
So I need to check them out.
Do we know anything about the Hogslop String Band?
Have we done any deep diving research on them?
I haven't.
I mean, it's bluegrass.
It's like you said.
I'm going to say if the name doesn't fit, then they did a horrible job naming themselves.
Yeah.
Hey, Willie, I went to that Rainbow Kitten Surprise Show and I didn't get any kittens.
No kittens.
Were you surprised?
No, they need to be up there in overalls and corn cob pipes and straw hats and yeah, if
there's not live pigs on stage, I'm walking away.
Oh my God, live pigs.
Barry, your dream is coming true.
My chicken hook up there.
I can get to my people.
I want to stop you because you went by something that has not been on either one of you guys'
picks for Thursday and that is a Mr. Robert Pattinson's girlfriend, Suki Waterhouse.
Suki Waterhouse, I just think, I don't know, it's kind of odd and it's not somebody that
you would anticipate me liking, but taco, just give it a gander.
I'm down for that.
I think she's going to be right up your alley.
Well, I kind of purposely laid out these picks with some gaps in between because I didn't
want to overbook and then find out stuff like this and be like, okay, so there's room for
some last minutes, some additions here, so I'm down to check that out.
Let's just say before she started dating Robert Pattinson, she was dating Bradley Cooper.
Just Google it.
Just Google it.
What's she driving?
Okay.
Wow.
What do you need?
What's the lock needing?
What's missing in the fleet?
What's missing in the fleet?
I just, I love the idea of randomly Robert Pattinson being on the farm.
I think that would be a really fun out of nowhere celebrity sighting for no reason.
I like our pets.
Yeah, but Suki Waterhouse.
Suki Waterhouse, all right.
Yeah, wasn't on my radar.
Make some time for that.
I will.
Make some time for that.
Okay.
Well, I've got another gap.
Nothing really until 11.45, Diarrhea Planet.
I think that's my number one show for Thursday.
Absolutely.
One million percent, and it should be because again, another nit to pick on this Bonnaroo
website that I'm going to keep beating up.
But if you look at the website, because they break it down via day and if there is a show
on Thursday night from 11.45 to say one o'clock, no, no.
On the website it says 11.45 to 12.
So Diarrhea Planet is playing 15 minutes according to this website.
But yeah, so this is the one I think to me that was the big flaming name on the schedule
that I wanted so badly to see.
Circle, circle, circle in red.
Cannot miss.
Do not miss the Diarrhea Planet show.
The one I'm most upset that I'm not going to see.
Diarrhea Planet coming back together for the first time in God knows how long.
So yeah, that's going to be really, really special.
I love that band and I love them being sort of like the headliner for Bonnaroo, that Thursday
Bonnaroo slot.
I'm really jealous of that show.
Very cool.
Yeah, so that's my Thursday.
I started out kind of light.
Okay.
So that's going to be it for the night?
You're not going to do Zedd's Dead or Big Freedia?
Oh yeah, I mean I could.
But that's all I had written down just to not miss.
Got it.
Okay.
He's trying to follow the rules this year.
Trying to.
Don't go hard on Thursday.
I don't know how that goes.
Don't go hard on Thursday.
I mean it's going to be hard because it's going to be hard not to go hard because Big
Freedia, it's a big bounce dance party and then you've got two Zedd's Dead slots to go
and that would be the part for me if I was there.
That would be when I'd want to go to Wear in the Woods.
I can't believe we're saying this on a Bonnaroo podcast, but at least I've never been out
there for a show.
This would be the moment I'd want to go to the Wear in the Woods stage for the Zedd's
Dead show.
Sure.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean I'll definitely be at the Big Freedia show.
Well, big rule.
Don't go hard on Thursday.
Alright, so you're going to wake up and I know what you're going to do when you wake
up.
The first thing you're going to do is go to the Camp Reddaroo Craft Beer Exchange on Friday.
That is on Friday, yes.
So that's at 11 and so we're going to do that.
Okay.
And Kevin reached out this week to see if we're coming.
Nice, okay.
And Taco, what are you bringing?
Trade?
I have a little, I have a lager and this is actually an award-winning lager that is from
a small microbrewery called Pabst.
So a little down, you know.
Good.
Just thought I'd share that, see if anyone else has maybe another award-winning lager
that they could trade for.
So you, so just to make sure you get your right trading partner, you would trade a Pabst
lager for a Pabst lager.
That's correct.
But maybe, you know, maybe if somebody's coming from the West Coast, maybe they'll bring a
West Coast PBR.
Yeah, okay.
What about a Miller Highlife, your actual favorite beer?
Those are also good, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I wouldn't turn down a Highlife.
Alright, after you've hammered about 15 PBRs from 11 to 12, then how does Friday go for
you?
Friday, my first show, I'm going to see AFI at 3 o'clock.
Oh, so you're going to go back for a nap.
You're going to go nap?
Yeah, probably need a little nap between, yeah, especially if I drink 15 PBRs.
Yeah, in those four hours, I anticipate you hitting it pretty hard.
I don't know if you get to AFI, to be honest with you.
Maybe not, we'll see.
Okay.
And then after that, I've got to go see Portugal Le Man.
I think that...
6.45.
I think, ooh, so you've got a really sort of light afternoon on this Friday.
So after 4 o'clock, you're not doing anything until Portugal, which again, I would almost
try to plug in Arena Sawayama, maybe having my favorite albums of the year last year.
I love this girl, Little Indie Pop, Princess, another one, Taco, just Google, Google Image.
You'll be very just fine with that.
Who's she dating?
But also you're not going to do a Knock Loose, which is surprising.
I don't know if I'm going to do a Knock Loose, yeah.
I got to walk by.
Yeah, maybe a walk by.
I got to go see the carnage.
Yeah, we'll be carnage.
Yeah.
We'll be carnage.
I love that they have them at 5 o'clock.
That is a weird slot, right?
Yeah, it's like, come on if you want to, but we're not doing it late at night.
Well, the medical tent at about 6.30 is going to be...
Yeah, I know.
That's my point.
I mean, that is going to be a hot as shit show.
With all of the banging around and the moshing, I can't imagine how hot that show is going
to be.
Is it on this or that?
Yeah, this.
Oh my God.
Jesus.
Which, I don't know, you weren't there last year, but they put big ass fans in those tents
last year, Brad.
Makes a huge difference.
Yeah, they're great.
They're not there in 2019 too.
I feel like I remember them in 2019.
I don't remember them.
Maybe, I don't know.
The first time I saw them was last year.
They're great.
Look, I think that your Gut Instinct Taco is right.
The Portugal live show is so fun.
Even if you don't even...
Even if you don't know a lot of their songs, I just find them to be so tight, exquisite
players.
And on the What Stage, I feel like that's going to be a really, really fun show.
Right when the sun's going down.
I agree.
Yeah.
You know, it was 730.
Yeah.
All right, then what?
Then I got to go straight from there over to 36 Mafia.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
Interesting.
You know, it's hard out here for a pimp.
Yeah.
I'm not going to lie to you about that.
It's a Tennessee thing.
It is.
Three...
Yeah, if you haven't seen 36 Mafia, make sure you watch...
Have you seen Hustle and Flow, the MTV movie?
I have not, no.
Great movie.
Yeah.
And 36 Mafia did some of the music for it.
Yeah.
Yep.
745 on Witch.
That is surprising for me in that it's another early one, Barry.
I kind of anticipated this one being later.
Yeah, me too.
I just have this strange feeling that that show is going to be out of control packed.
Out of control packed.
Yeah.
I don't know if you're going to get within 100 yards of it.
That's fine.
I don't need to get that close.
It's really the only conflict because Noah Cahan is over on the bat.
Yeah.
I have a note there that that's really the first conflict.
You know, of course you can't watch the whole 36 Mafia show because I want to get over and
see Noah Cahan who we talked to.
Yeah.
And then for the podcast, Noah Cahan, it's a very different world going from 36 Mafia
to Noah Cahan and thank goodness they're putting him.
Yes it is.
Thank God they're putting him on that because the sound bleed from Witch to this would be
overpowering for these sweet, soft sounds of Mr. Noah Cahan.
And then what do you do?
Do you go and find out if Baby Keem is an actual baby or?
Yes.
That's my next note here.
I've got to do a walk by with Baby Keem and just we need to see if this is a baby or not.
Please confirm baby or not a baby.
We have to confirm.
That's the one baby we've got here.
So hopefully we'll see.
All right.
Well, that's a walk by.
So that frees you up for the rest of the night.
Yep.
Then I can go see Fleet Fox's at nine o'clock.
So it seems to me like your evening starts to become a lot of little chunks of shows.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So this could be one of those nights where you get pulled in a lot of different directions,
huh?
It could be.
Yeah.
OK.
Yeah.
Like I said, I've designed it to be flexible and there's purposely some gaps in here that
could be filled in.
OK.
So all right.
My not miss that day is Sylvanesso.
Oh, you're not going to do any Grizz or Kendrick, huh?
OK.
Probably not.
OK.
Fair enough.
I am very excited about the Sylvanesso show.
This is, you know, this is.
Yeah.
They're quickly becoming like the go to show for Bonnaroo.
I mean, this is what their fourth time playing now.
Yeah, should have been fifth because they were should have done the super jam that one
year.
They were their super jam that canceled.
All right.
Yeah.
I love I love that poll.
I love the Sylvanesso show.
It's going to be tough for me because I desperately want to see Wolf Peck.
I feel like I've seen Sylvanesso so many times and as much as I love that show, you're not
going to hear me say a bad word about it.
I just I haven't seen Wolf Peck yet.
And I'm kind of interested in Wolf Peck, too.
Well, if you like horns and if you like, you know, a fantastic soul based voice that doesn't
look like the sound that's coming out of his mouth.
Very Paul Jane way.
St. Paul.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The Wolf Peck's for you.
Cool.
And then, you know, of course, got to got to go see that diesel show at 230.
You going to make it?
Yeah.
This is technically Saturday.
You going to make it?
Yeah.
OK.
Barry, you will make it.
I'll make it.
Yeah.
Barry's going to be.
Yeah.
The Sylvanesso.
There'll be little nappies in there.
But yeah, what is helpful is like Sylvanesso and Wolf Pack lead into it.
So you're not going back to the camp and sitting down and I love it.
I love how he keeps calling this band Wolf Pack.
Wolf Pack.
I said Wolf Pack.
Yes, thank you.
Back Wolf Pack.
Well, doesn't that translate to Wolf Pack?
Maybe he's just translating.
Yeah, he's our personal translator.
He's our go to.
Thank God we have him.
I don't know what we do with that.
Trying to stick up for you.
All right.
That's a big day.
It's a lot of freedom there in that day.
Are you doing this on purpose because you feel as though that you have a pretty packed
Saturday and Sunday or is it just how everything sort of falls and you're not necessarily in
love with anything?
That's just how it flows.
I mean, yeah, just kind of picks here and there.
Okay.
I think probably last time I might have overloaded myself.
So trying to try to back up and go a little lighter.
Okay.
But yeah, ready for Saturday.
All right, we got Saturday and Sunday taco picks coming up next on the What Podcast.
Flortaco Day on the What Podcast.
We are into Saturday and I am guessing it starts with a sound bath with mythic times
for Flortaco.
Well, I've got Devon Goffili in here first.
Oh, okay.
Got us.
That's a 1230.
Got you.
You're not going to go to the speed dating and friending event?
Yeah.
I mean, I'll look and see what cars they got, I guess.
I don't know anything about the speed dating and friending thing.
What is that?
It's a queer-roo thing that they've done for the queer community.
So the Devon Goffili show, I've said this before, and I know that he's a friend of the
show because he was on it.
But man, this dude can sing anything, he can play anything.
It is going to make your heart very, very happy if you can wake up.
The only thing I wish is this was on Sunday, Barry, because this has got Sunday morning
church written all over it.
He will just make your soul enriched.
You're going to feel so fantastic leaving that show.
You're going to feel like you're on top of the world.
You might cry a little, but you're going to feel inspired and happy to be alive after
that show.
If you can wake up early and get there for Devon, please do, because I really, really
like that guy.
Well, you got two chances, right?
Because he's also playing the Toyota stage.
Yeah.
I think I saw that.
That's the Saturday, 1230.
Okay.
Well, Saturday, 3 o'clock, he's on that stage.
Oh, he's on that tent?
Yeah.
Oh.
And then later at the Super Jam.
I don't know which one I'd want to go to, because the Toyota Music Den is going to be
a smaller, more intimate thing.
I kind of want to see him more on the bigger stage, to be honest with you.
Ah, just go to both.
Why not both?
Interesting.
Okay, I didn't know he was playing two shows.
All right.
Yeah, he's got two shows.
Okay.
Yeah, my not-miss Saturday is Rainbow Kitten Surprise.
Ooh.
6.45, yeah.
So you're going to be pretty open for the entire day, 1.15 all the way to 6, and you're
just going to bounce?
What are you going to do for those four hours?
Bounce.
No Sheryl Crow?
Sheryl Crow, I don't know.
Baby.
Okay.
I mean, that's a big gap there.
So what do you plan on doing that whole day?
Drinking.
Okay.
Telling you his headliner's PBR every year.
Yeah, yeah.
It's not unlike what you just do at home, Taco.
It's very similar.
I know.
Isn't it great?
Yeah.
It's good, though, that it's scheduled.
That's right.
Yeah.
That's how it's made better, Barry, because he's scheduling this.
When do I schedule drinking?
Are you not going to go with Parker and read to the Beths?
Probably, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, then why is that not on your picks?
Well, that's their pick.
Okay.
Good point.
Good point.
Yeah.
Along the way there, I would suggest that Jenny Lewis.
Parker.
Parker, Ed Reed.
I did see Jenny Lewis up there.
Okay.
On the line-up.
Does it interest you?
Yeah, a little bit.
Okay.
I'm actually interested because he's now doing the Super Jam.
I'm sort of interested in this Cory Wong set.
That would be something like because I...
Good point.
I mean, Wolf Pack is playing the day before.
I would imagine you'd get a few Wolf Pack people showing up on the Cory Wong set, and
it might be a little precursor to what you're going to see in the Super Jam later that night.
Good idea.
Good point.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm going to go with the Cory Wong.
Rainbow Kitten?
Rainbow Kitten, and then of course the Super Jam at 8.15.
Before you get too crazy, Rainbow Kitten.
Now Rainbow Kitten has a massive following, especially in the Southeast.
Have you ever seen one of their shows before?
Because they've been to Chattanooga a few times now.
You don't remember that we went to that show?
I was setting you up so you could tell the story.
I was making sure that...
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
What did you think about that show?
I thought it was great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they had a private pre-concert before the concert that was just real intimate, just
kind of everybody standing around.
It was pretty cool.
They did a singing circle, Barry.
It was so sexy.
They did a singing circle.
Yeah.
It was so sexy.
Yeah.
I love this band so much.
I do too.
It's one of my favorites.
What a...
And then I think they played Shaky Knees one year.
What a fantastic story though for Rainbow Kitten Surprise to be a baby band who just
primarily could survive doing the circuits in the Southeast to be playing 6.45 on the
what stage.
Now I anticipate this even though it's... I even anticipate it being a lightly attended
show but they deserve the look on the main stage of Bonnaroo.
That is a massive look for them and to be where they normally are which is they're playing
1,500 seat venues and they've sold out Red Rocks a couple of times for them to be on
the what stage not just at three o'clock in the afternoon but the sundown show on Saturday.
What a look.
And by the way, not too many necessary conflicts too unless you're a big young gravy fan but
they've got a chance really to blow up after this now that they're getting this huge, huge
slot on the what stage.
Yeah.
I was just looking.
There aren't many conflicts.
The only thing is that that time on Saturday is reset time for a lot of people when they
kind of go back and try to shower or get ready for a big, big all-nighter.
But 6.45, 7 is when people kind of start coming out.
I hear you.
I would probably choose after the Rainbow Kitten show from 7.30 to like 9.10 to be my
9 o'clock to be my sort of like rest, eat, reset time.
Only problem with that is you missed the super jam so.
Am I wrong to...
Timing wise I agree.
Does the super jam feel super early?
Yes it does.
Not like last year but it's earlier.
What time was it last year?
Do you remember?
It was during the day wasn't it?
It was.
Yeah.
Sun wasn't even down.
Five or six.
Oh really?
Oh super early.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was awkward.
Weird.
Yeah.
It feels like it should be a late night thing.
It does.
It really always has.
I historically always remember it as a late night thing.
Yeah, midnighty.
Right around midnight.
Eleven.
Maybe it's because it's harder to get artists to stick around until midnight to do that.
I'm sure it has to do with schedules.
Yeah scheduling is tough I'm sure.
Okay.
Alright the rest of your Saturday look like?
Well I am going to go to the super jam but I also want to do a quick walk by on this
band which I admit I got interested in just because of the name.
Winona Fighter.
Tell me about Winona Fighter.
They could be another paramour.
It's kind of a pop punk female singer.
Just seemed fun.
The name is really just what jumped out at me.
So I want to go see what Winona Fighter is all about.
They're playing the Who stage at 9 o'clock.
Interesting selection for a Saturday night at 9 o'clock.
Don't go into a Who stage show.
Interesting.
Yeah we have a new Who stage.
Well you have Lil Nas X, I guess you don't have any interest in that.
I do because you know I own one of the cars I own is the Montero which is what Lil Nas
X is named after.
I don't know if you knew that.
Or no Bob Moses.
I didn't put Bob Moses down.
You know I could be talked into that.
Because you have yet to go to the other stage yet.
You have yet to go to the other stage so far in your schedule.
That's the reason I bring that up.
Well Diesel's playing the other stage.
Oh is he?
Ok.
Fair enough.
Alright I didn't know that.
Alright good.
Yeah that's my only other stage pick really.
Ok.
Winona Fighter.
Winona Fighter.
At least the walk by.
Just kind of check it out.
And I don't want to miss Big Wild.
Oh you're a Big Wild fan.
I didn't know this about you.
Yep 9.45.
And then you know then we come to that conflict that My Morning Jacket slash corn.
And I hate to say it Barry but I think I've got to go corn.
Wow.
Interesting.
I hope that doesn't hurt my feelings.
Well here's the beauty about that.
I'm supposed to go to My Morning Jacket.
I'm going to go to My Morning Jacket.
Here's the beauty about that though Taco.
You do what you've got to do.
You're so close.
So if the corn doesn't satisfy you and you still need a little bit more sustenance in
your diet just walk over to the My Morning Jacket thing because they're going to be playing
forever.
There's going to be a lot of jacket happening that night so yeah just go on over.
And there's nothing happening on the witch stage after them.
I just don't feel as though that show is ending at 2.30 for some reason.
They had to put something down.
They're going to keep going.
They're going to keep going for a while.
And the only other thing after that is on the other which is the other side so you're
right.
It's a lot easier to get from this tent to the witch stage than it is to get into the
what area.
I do worry about toward the back of the field there for the My Morning Jacket people.
If you do arrive a little late there might be some tough sound bleed from corn to My
Morning Jacket.
So if you arrive late stay on the left side and try and get deep in it because that corn
bleed on the far right side is going to be tough.
Yeah true.
All right.
Anything Saturday night?
You're going to go to the plaza?
You're not going to do any plazas?
I can do some plazas.
Yeah.
All right.
And then Sunday, you know it's a good point you brought up Devin Gafillion.
Feels like that should be that Sunday morning like take you to church type slot.
And it's sad that he's not doing that on Sunday.
So I tried to find something comparable-ish.
115 on that.
Hermanus Gutierrez.
Do you know anything about them?
So let me say something about this thing that we talk about.
We bring this up, Ari and I, every year and we brought it up damn near for the last 10
years.
And we keep acting as if there is a Sunday morning must have slot for quote unquote take
me to church music.
And it hasn't been that way for a decade.
But yet we keep operating as if it is there and they just missed it this year.
No they have not done it in forever.
And I honestly feel like the last one that they did was like Sharon Jones.
And since then, so there was a couple years there that happened where they had Charles
Bradley, Sharon Jones, maybe somebody else in there as well, maybe Staples all like on
a Sunday morning on the wet stage.
And I guess we just got sort of, you know, spoiled because you'd wake up and you'd feel
so good about life and your last day on the farm.
And then they just they'd never really went back to that well.
But yet in our mind, Barry, me, you, Hillary and Mike Doerr and Denson, we would just operate
it's like no, no, no, this is a forever thing.
You must do this all the time.
And they just haven't done it in like 10 years.
But yet we act as if they should.
They don't.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah.
But anyways, I don't know anything.
I don't know any I don't see anybody.
I mean, Drew, but that's not till three, Drew Holcomb.
So not that not what you're talking about, Brad.
Yeah, this was this was the closest I could find.
As the name implies, they are brothers and it's all instrumental.
They just guitar players.
They just play guitar.
They've worked with your buddy, Dan Arbark.
Yeah.
Can I say something about Armando Gutierrez?
And it's not so much about them as it is about Dan.
You shockingly know.
Look, I think that the easiest bet in music, at least for me, is seeing the words easy
I sound on something, no matter what the genre is, whether it's country, Latin, soul music,
church music, if Dan's stamp of easy I sound is on it, I can guarantee it's going to be
in great.
You know, there's just not been something that he has produced that hasn't and him and
Peter have produced that have not been out of control.
Brilliant.
Even the CeeLo album that he did for like a full of church music was out of control.
Great.
So that to me is almost the easiest bet in music is seeing easy I sound stamped on a
on an artist, go spend time with that.
There you go.
Yeah.
So that's my that's my first Sunday pick.
Dan's got the best year in music.
He's got one of the best years.
And then I want to go see that Sammy Ray show, mostly just because that's the one I didn't
get to finish at Moon River last year.
So I don't know much about Sammy Ray and the Friends.
Tell me about this.
I don't really know him either.
I saw them play two songs and then they had to evacuate the the festival.
So I really didn't get to experience the whole show.
So I just kind of want to go for the makeup and see how it is.
Barry, did you ever make up the fact that we never finished the Sam Smith show in Louisville?
Never go see Sam Smith.
Finish that off.
No, I didn't.
So we were in Louisville when your taco and soon as Sam Smith said, Hello, everybody,
I'm Sam Smith.
Thanks for having me.
Three, two, one.
The stage almost collapsed because of a felt like a tornado was ripping through Louisville.
Well, you remember you remember what happened even before that.
He said, Hello, everybody.
And the another event was happening up on the bridge and they set off fireworks.
Remember, and then the storm came through.
They didn't have much show.
We saw maybe he just said, maybe three minutes, four minutes and he was gone.
Yeah.
So I'm just looking for that closure to finish that show.
Good closure.
No, no, no.
I got to slide over and no laser pants carnival.
I don't know if you just made that up or it's the House of Yes.
It's the House of Yes on the side from two to six.
The laser pants clown carnival.
Two to six.
Four hours, four hours of clowns.
Four hours of laser pants clown carnival.
So there's an opportunity there.
Yeah.
Let me just throw out the rest of my schedule.
Yeah.
And of course, I got to see Frank, you know, Frank, Frank Fernandez.
I love Frank.
I heard that guy's good.
Love Frank.
Good old Frank.
Good old Frank.
Yeah.
I want to see Frank.
Frank.
Can't even say it right now.
Franz Ferdinand.
I'm not saying.
I hope to God you're not.
Not even try.
We've had all of our, we've hit the allotment of wrong names today.
Yeah.
Berry's not doing anymore.
This other one I'm kind of interested in, I want to find out more about is Men I Trust.
Men I Trust.
When is that?
4.45.
4.45 on that.
All right.
Tell me about Men I Trust.
Well, I don't know.
I mean, it's kind of, it's kind of like just dreamy, just kind of like easy.
I don't know, the few that I've pulled up so far to listen to I've liked.
Would you call it dream pop?
Maybe.
Okay.
Kind of reminded me a little bit of like maybe the chromatics.
Okay.
Interesting.
I don't know much about Men I Trust, but I'm putting them on my list to listen to.
Me neither.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
That's a surprise.
You want to see Peach Pit.
Okay.
Oh, this is interesting.
You're going Peach Pit over Revivaless.
Yeah, I am.
Why is that?
Not really into the Revivaless.
Really?
Interesting.
Yeah.
Two-time podcast appearance from the Revivaless.
I know.
I mean, they're great guests.
Okay.
All right.
You haven't listened to the new album yet.
I hope they're not listening.
Have you heard anything about the new album?
I have not.
No.
Okay.
I kind of get mixed up with like the Lumineers and I don't know.
Okay.
All right.
Well, this is a big deal for the kids of the Revivaless.
I love Zach and Dave.
You know how much I adore them and the time that we've spent together in New Orleans.
Dave's wife is fantastic.
Zach's wife is fantastic.
Their children are beautiful.
The fact that they get the What Stage slot on a Sunday before Paramore and the Foo Fighters.
I think this is a huge, huge look, especially with the new album out.
This is the moment that they blow up and go to the next level.
So yeah, I would really, really want to be there for that.
But Peach Pit's great.
I love Peach Pit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not gonna lie.
Where else?
Oh, yes.
And then, yeah, speaking of, gotta see Paramore again.
Okay.
Again?
You've seen them before.
Well, they played 2018.
Okay, so you went to that show.
You liked it?
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Is there anything that you love on this lineup that you're just overtaken with joy to go
to?
Because I've heard a lot of you, I've heard a lot of your picks and I get a lot of like,
yeah, I'm okay with this.
Yeah, there's not a ton that, you know, I'm like super into.
The next one I definitely want to see is the Pixies.
That's a not miss for me.
Okay.
All right.
Would you say the absolute can't miss of your festival for all four days is what?
Rainbow Kitten Surprise.
Really?
No kidding.
I would have never guessed that considering that band is in Chattanooga every six months.
I'm stunned.
Okay.
Hey, it's your festival.
Yeah, I think that Pixies show is an important one.
Barry, did you put that on your list too?
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
They're top three or four for me.
That might be an entire camp.
Yeah, definitely.
They're up there too.
The whole camp going to the Pixies it feels like.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
I think so.
And then finally you're going to close out of course with the Foos.
Of course with Dave and I do want to see Foo Fighters.
I also love that show.
Yeah.
All right.
So let's do a quick and I'll put both of you on the record.
It starts at 930.
It's listed to 1115.
What is your going guess for when that show ends?
I'm going to say midnight.
Yeah, I'm thinking at least midnight.
Maybe longer.
Okay.
Well, I want an official time.
I want an exact to the minute time Barry Courter.
Oh, midnight.
Straight up midnight.
Okay.
All right.
Yep.
So is this price is right rules?
Then you're going to go 1201.
Yeah.
Exactly.
You knew where I'm going.
Okay.
All right.
I got you both then.
Hope you don't go over.
It does not feel like it's going to end at 1115 does it?
And honestly two and a half hours feel short.
I was going to say 1245.
Okay.
I was thinking that but we'll see.
I mean I get the, I just have this feeling that they might want to play the longest show
in the history of Bonnaroo.
And they've got that Sunday night slot so they certainly could do it.
I don't know.
I have, I don't know if I've told you this, but you know, I grew up in Richmond, Virginia
and just up the road is DC and the 930 club always lived in lore for us in Richmond as
a kid growing up because all of our favorite bands were showing up at the 930 club and
I never really ever got to go.
Well the 930 club closed, but some new people have come in to, to rehab it and open it back
up but they're not opening up the 930 club.
They're opening up the building right next door, which is now called Atlantis.
Atlantis is in the same vein trying to do the same thing as the 930 club did back in
the day.
And they've got a year of bands that are just out of control.
The list of artists that they've scheduled for the year is fantastic.
The first band that they have opening up Atlantis, the Foo Fighters.
And this is going to be, it's a small venue.
I mean we're not talking, we're not talking thousands and thousands of people.
It's going to be a small quaint venue and the Foo Fighters are the opening show and
guess who's going to that show?
Very very excited.
Dave Grohl.
Dave Grohl will be there, yes and so will I.
I'm going to go and you know I just have, the time that I saw them before in the Metro
when they played this off Lollapalooza set, you know they walked on the set and they said
we want to play the longest show in the history of the Metro and they played for four hours.
I just, if they have the opportunity, they're going to take it.
They've never played Bonnaroo before.
I cannot imagine this thing not lasting three hours.
Yeah and who's going to tell them no?
No, nobody's going to tell them no.
For sure.
I think it's going to be a real moment.
It's going to be a real, real moment.
Alright that seems like a, it's a full slate but it feels very light to me.
You're doing a lot but it doesn't feel like you're invested in a lot.
Yeah, yeah I think that's intentional you know.
Okay.
Just how, just how a designer.
Similar to mine.
Yeah.
Similar to mine.
Did I hear anything about moms?
Gotta leave that open, Tentaldin.
Yeah there's always room.
If anybody has any hot tips on where the moms are coming from this year, I don't think it's
going to be corn.
I don't think it's going to be diesel.
But where are the moms coming from this year?
If you have any tips, ask the one underscore podcast.
Maybe the Pixies, I don't know.
Maybe there's not really a Dashboard Confessional on here type show.
But yeah, hit me with your hot tips.
Taco, I'm going to tell you, I think that your best mom opportunity is going to be at
the revivalists.
I mean, 30 year old women really, really, really love the revivalists.
That's a good point.
Maybe I have to reconsider my schedule.
I could probably look that in.
All right, Barry, any thoughts on Taco's taco picks?
Solid.
It looks good.
Yeah, I think it's similar to mine and the ones you want to see and then leave some room
for exploration.
You know, I don't think I've ever been to a show with Taco.
Are you a upfront kind of guy?
Do you push towards the middle?
Do you try and get up in them guts?
Or are you towards the back, you know, staying on the periphery?
I'm more towards the back.
OK, yeah, very few times have I gotten right up front on the rail, as they say.
Barry's a back guy too.
Yeah.
Yep.
Either the pit, if it's easy to get into or back.
Yeah.
So do you guys spend a lot of time at shows together?
Did you do that two years ago or last year?
Funny you say that.
I don't know that we have, have we, right?
No, I remember we did go.
We all kind of got in.
It was you, me, I think, Tara, Kai, Bryan Stone.
Like we all went to a show together.
I'm trying to remember which it was at a tent.
I'm trying to remember which show that was.
Do you remember that?
I think we got a right.
We got a selfie together.
Yeah, that was oh, it was the band we interviewed.
Oh yeah.
Great band.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love them.
Great band.
Love great band.
So I'm glad that you guys finally start to understand how my brain works because that's
how I feel about everybody that we interview.
When Evan Bonnaroo is like saying to me, yeah, you talked to him on the show.
I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't remember this whatsoever.
That's why you got to go to the onepodcast.com.
Click on guests.
Just to remind myself what in the world.
All right.
So pretty good slate.
Let's wrap up with oh, did you do a Spotify playlist for this?
I did.
Yeah.
Oh, good.
How do I find it?
I sent it to you, but I'll put it in the show notes as well.
I know you sent it to me, but I have to act as if we haven't talked about this already
so that the audience is engaged with it too.
Yes, it'll be linked below in the description.
I have a playlist put up right here.
Yeah, right here in my hand.
Okay, good.
All right.
Great.
All right.
So we'll listen to Men I Trust for sure.
And then we'll come back and talk about Shakenese next on the Onepodcast.
Shakenese last weekend, one of the better Southeastern festivals of, you know, you got
the top tiers.
You got the Banderas, the Coachella, the Lollapalooza, the ACLs.
And then that second tier, Boston Calling's, Shakenese, Hangouts, maybe Hangouts in that
top tier now, but Firefly.
Shakenese always seems to come through with at least a lineup that feels so, so well crafted
and right in the pocket of at least my type of musical style.
Taco, how was it?
It was great.
And yeah, you were asking me like, is there anything like Absolute Can't Miss on the Bonnaroo
lineup?
For me on the Shakenese lineup, there was more bands that I absolutely had to see.
Really?
Like who?
The Mars Volta was my number one.
Look at you.
Mars Volta.
I had no idea you were a Mars Volta fan.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I got there.
It's a little tougher because it is a city festival.
You know, there's no camping.
There's no, you know, getting in and out is a major kind of deal just because you've got
to get there and then you've got to leave because it shuts down.
And I stayed at my aunt's who, she lives about an hour north of Atlanta.
So every day was drive an hour, get on the train station.
I forgot because you don't have the bus.
Yeah, I don't have the bus.
So I have to take all this extra.
In years past when you took the bus, you would stay in the bus.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, I've got friends.
Where would you park it?
Well, last year we had a friend who lives pretty much downtown Atlanta and he went to
Shakenese too, but he just let me park the bus in his driveway.
And then it was a quick Uber from his house, downtown Atlanta down to Central Park.
So I mean, we were in and out easy.
It was pretty good.
So but this time, yeah, I'd have to take an hour car trip, ride the train for 30 minutes,
get out, walk another 10 minutes or so.
And so by the time I get there, I'm already exhausted.
And then of course I get there Friday.
And if you remember, there was a little mix up with the tickets, which shout out to Joe.
He got me straightened out very quickly.
But I missed that Killer Mike show, which I feel bad about.
I really want to see.
Now Killer Mike was the last minute edition, right?
Yeah, Manchester Orchestra dropped out and they got Killer Mike to fill in.
And I could hear him singing.
I could hear him performing as I'm sitting there at Will Call waiting on, you know, to
get the tickets sorted out.
So but that finally got sorted out.
I got in.
So I'll tell you about Killer Mike.
Did I talk about it on the show that I went to the album release thing with him?
This is one of the great moments that I've had living here.
He did an album release in a Brooklyn church that was, I don't know, a 200 year old church.
It was out of control beautiful.
And he did it because it's his first solo album.
And you know, there was a whole bunch of industry people there or whatever, but he's introducing
each song as it goes along.
And it was just so strange sitting in this beautiful Catholic church hearing, I don't
know, F in that.
I mean, it was just like it was so weird, but lovely.
And but what he was trying to say is like every word on this album, Michael is the new
album is so specifically chosen for a reason.
And it's a super personal album.
It's a it's a testament to his life and his struggles and all this kind of stuff.
But the thing I loved about it is that the whole purpose of the album is is just tell
you through all of the ups and downs of hip hop, good news is coming.
And he left the thing saying over and over and over, just go tell your people good news
is coming.
Good news is coming.
He is such an inspirational dude.
I could listen to him do anything, read anything, prophesize anything.
I just love Killer Mike so, so much.
Me too.
Yeah.
And when he performs.
I hate that you missed that show.
I hate that I missed it.
Yeah.
And especially when he performs in Atlanta, like, you know, because he's from Atlanta,
like he loves Atlanta.
You can just tell it's just a whole new level of energy for him.
That's a great point.
Yeah.
And I did see, of course, I did see Run the Jewels at Shakin' Ease and that was fun.
So I wanted to see Killer Mike, missed it, caught a little bit of the Greta Van Fleet
show as I was coming in.
But I definitely did not miss.
What was that like?
I don't know.
It was, you know, everybody compares on Led Zeppelin, which I get, you know, I thought
it was all right.
I wish I could have watched more of it.
But I definitely saw the Yeah Yeah Yeahs.
Fantastic show.
How was that?
So good.
So good.
I know.
So much fun.
I know.
We saw them at a venue here in New York called Forest Hills, which is to me my favorite
venue in the city.
Oh, God, it felt so good.
It felt so good to see her again.
I don't think I haven't seen them since like 2006 or something like that.
I love this new album.
I'm absolutely out of control and love with the new album.
So the one thing that I'm bummed about is them not being a Bonnaroo.
Yeah.
Yeah, that would be perfect to Bonnaroo.
Yeah, that was one of my not missed shows.
I got to see them.
So I'm most happy about that.
The Killers closed it out Friday night.
You know, that was the Friday night headliner.
And of course, I had to leave a little early because I've got, you know, I've got to walk
and then ride the train and then, you know, drive.
So I didn't get to stay for the whole thing, unfortunately.
But then the next day, Saturday, come out and do it all again.
I saw 311, which was fantastic.
And then, yeah, I just I can't believe these guys are still around.
And that Nick Hexham still looks like he's 25.
You know, he's just as dreamy now as he was then.
So weird.
Yeah.
And then, of course, Saturday, the Mars Volta was was my absolute cannot miss number one
stage fell thing was right up front.
That show was criminally under attended.
I felt like they just didn't seem like there was hardly anybody there.
It seemed a lot.
I saw a lot of your snaps.
It seemed like a bunch of shows seemed under attended.
Well, yeah, I think you were seeing a light crowd.
No, it was a sold out.
So show it wasn't light at all.
It was just where I was standing.
Well, they didn't have a lot of people.
I don't think they sold a lot of platinum tickets, which is was the you know, the platinum
viewing area was right in front of where I was.
So you know, if from where just from where I was looking, yeah, it didn't look like anybody
hardly.
But you know, behind me and like, you know, the whole crowd was filled up back behind,
especially that Hozier show.
Holy crap.
It's a lot of people for that.
Hozier is a silent killer, man.
He sells more tickets than you think.
He sells more product than you think.
He streams bigger than you think.
He's just one of those guys that you just take for granted and you don't know how big
he really is until you do you see it.
Oh, yeah, that was his show.
Sunday was massive.
Absolutely massive.
Saturday, after the Mars Volta.
Now, that's the place to find the moms taco.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Definitely.
Yeah, for sure.
I started to go see Tenacious D Saturday and caught a little bit that show, but I ran into
a couple of podcast listeners, Sal and Josh from Texas.
They and Josh from Texas.
Yeah, they come to the bottom from Texas every year.
They were there shaking.
They love the show.
So I got to hang out and talk with them.
So that was cool.
They said they get their address.
They can get something from Barry's basement.
Yeah.
What do they need?
Yeah.
We'll see.
Yeah.
They said they do a barbecue like cookout every year at camp.
So I might have to find them.
OK.
OK.
Hang on a second.
What day are they doing that?
Yeah, no kidding.
What day are they doing this?
Well, because they drive.
They said they don't usually get in until like Thursday.
And so they're usually way out in like, you know, pod, you know, 10 or nine or whatever.
So yeah.
But I mean, but are they doing this if if if they're doing this, if they're doing like
a barbecue barrier on like Sunday?
How long has this meat been sitting in that cooler?
How long can you really sit on that stuff?
I plan.
Yeah, that better be like I show up and then the barbecue starts.
We've got some leftover chicken from Friday, OK, Sunday morning.
Yeah, great.
They better have that packed on some dry ice or something.
Yeah.
Heard.
Well, yeah, I'm glad you made some podcast listeners.
It's weird to meet podcast listeners in the wild.
You know, I met that one listener out of nowhere at a bar in New Orleans as we just watched
football and he looked over and he just and then we just hung out for the rest of the
day and bounce around the city.
It's weird to I guess it's weird to see us in the wild and I guess it's weird to see
podcast listeners in the wild all the same.
Well, especially because I was working my way up through the crowd to see Tenacious
D and then out of nowhere, I just hear somebody yell taco and I turn around and they're just
like, hey, we're big.
You know, we love the show.
Good to see you.
And it's like, that's great.
They just spotted me just walking through the crowd.
Yeah, that's great.
Yeah.
The weird thing about that is that you missed the Tenacious D show.
And then the next day they announced they've got new music showing up.
And yeah, but you didn't hear any of that.
I did not.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I got caught up talking to him.
And then price of price.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
It's a tough life.
The crown.
That's right.
Yeah.
And then that Mews show is so good.
I love Mews.
Yeah.
They they did this thing where they dropped this curtain behind him and there was like
a giant head with like a hand that looks like it was coming out of the stage and it would
like rotate.
And it was just their stage show.
And theatrics is unreal.
It is.
I saw that show when it was at MSG here.
And yes, you're right.
The one knock that Barry had on Mews when they were at Bonnaroo is that it didn't matter
if you were listening to them on this is a testament to them, by the way.
It didn't matter if you were listening to them on stage or if you hit play on your stereo,
because it sounds so pitch perfect all the time.
And it's the most technically perfect show I've ever heard.
Yeah.
Which lends itself for people like Barry to be a tad boring.
But but my comment was when it was over, I couldn't hum you a tune.
I still couldn't still.
I mean, I'm not that big a fan.
Mews has got a lot of hits.
And a lot of fans, too.
I mean, I get it.
It just wasn't it was it was fun to see.
And I'm glad I saw it.
Yeah, I think that was my to your point.
I think that's my point.
The point the point that I think is important is that their stage show has gotten bigger
and a little bit more active and engaging than the one we saw at Bonnaroo.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Yeah.
So I'll never not see them.
Yeah, they're great.
And then so that takes us to Sunday.
And I guess the big surprise for me was Future Islands.
I had never really listened to them, but I was wandering around.
All right.
I would love to talk about Future Islands because, boy, I got a lot to say about this.
All right.
So you had never seen them before.
No, you know, you know that you know the hit, you know, Seasons, right?
I don't know that I do.
Oh, OK.
All right.
So your first impression of Future Islands was kind of reminded me of editors a little
bit.
You know, he's got just just really interesting like voice in this like very strange vocal
range like it's not quite like deep, but it's not also like super high.
He just operates in this weird area and like then sometimes so get into this like guttural
like growl.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He growls.
Yeah.
I was into it.
I don't know.
I just I just dug it.
It is a bat shit crazy show.
The first time you see a Barry, right?
Because it's so performative.
He's beating on his chest.
He's punching himself.
He's falling to the ground.
He's flailing.
He'll at one point, he'll rip out his heart from his chest, then hold the heart while
it's beating and he'll look at it and he'll turn away from it and look at it again and
then he'll put it back in his chest and then he'll fall down.
Like it's so strange to watch.
And then like to tacos point, he'll go from like sounding like regular dude into this
growl thing, which is off putting, but also totally engaging.
The first time.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, that was my first time.
The first time you see the show, it's fantastic because it's just nothing like you've ever
seen before.
And especially if you like the songs, which I do, I love their albums.
But then the second time and the third time and the fourth time you see it, I just look
at this and like, what the shit is he doing this for still enough already?
I haven't seen it live.
I've seen video.
I know what you're talking about.
Yeah.
Well, and I wasn't, you know, I was just kind of walking around.
I think I was just eating or something and I could just hear it off in the distance.
And I just, that was my first thought was what in the world is this guy doing?
I got to go see what this is.
So yeah.
And I ended up staying for the whole show.
So it is.
It's fantastic.
I love it.
I really love it.
And the other thing too, like he just gives every ounce of him.
Yeah.
Right.
He is just soaking wet on stage.
I don't care if it's in the middle of a winter blizzard.
The dude is sweating like a maniac because he's working so hard on stage.
I mean, he's really, really putting every ounce of him into it.
He even said, he's like, I got to be careful.
I tore my ACL.
So I can't, you know, and then, but then like, he would just start jumping around and like,
yeah, running circles.
And he like, damn, he's a, yeah, you can see why he tore his ACL.
It's a, it's a great show.
But I just, I just loved the band so much that, you know, I just kind of get taken out
of it sometimes.
You know, after the fourth time you've seen it, I get a little bit, I just want to listen
to you, you know?
Sure.
Yeah.
That was, I guess the big surprise for me was, you know, going, and then I went from
that to Father John Misty, which was also good.
Much different.
Much different.
Yeah.
A little bit different vibe.
Yeah, but he's, I mean, that is a, to me, like, I love Father John Misty when I like
session him, but it's a different stage show.
I don't, like his stage show, I find to be so fun.
So fun.
The Bonnaroo one that he had that year felt like I was watching a different artist.
He was engaged.
He was, he had people coming up on stage.
He was throwing shit off of the stage.
It was so almost flaming lips level fun.
And then the, like the, the, just sessioning it, sitting around the house, listening to
you like, oh, this is, this is, this is cute.
This is sweet.
This is lovely.
Yeah.
The live show was so much more fun.
Yeah, that was so fun.
There was a, people formed a conga line during the Father John Misty set and they were just
going all over the, you know, it was just people having a good time.
And then, yeah, of course I went from that to Hozier, which was massive, huge, fantastic
show.
And then the flaming lips, which was actually my first time seeing flaming lips, surprisingly.
Really?
Yeah.
I mean, those are, those are three very, like, this is the thing about this shaky knees Barry
is it's so in the pocket.
I mean, those three artists fit like a glove.
Yeah.
That's a good day.
I love the show and of course they did the entire Yoshimi album, Yoshimi Battles the
Pink Robots, you know, from beginning to end, which was fun to watch.
And you know, of course, you know, he's got giant pink robots, inflatables up on stage.
They're, you know, shooting confetti into the crowd, balloons, you know, it was, of
course, you know, you've seen it, but it was fun.
I enjoyed it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
God, I love the flaming lip shows.
I have another surprise that it wasn't a Bonnaroo, but you know, how many times can they go down
that path?
I, I really love that show.
I really wish it was in the big bubble, you know, forces in the bubble.
Yeah.
No, the birth, the birth.
Yeah.
That's a, that's a great weekend.
Good for you.
It was a great weekend.
I enjoyed it.
Yeah.
All right, buddy.
Barry, anything else before we go?
No, we do in your picks next week or we're gonna, we're gonna see our guest lineups go
depends on our rescheduled for the fifth time guests.
We'll see how it works, but I've always got picks for you.
I can always do picks.
Nice.
All right.
Until then, we'll see you next time on the what podcast.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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