On this episode of The What Podcast, Brad gets passionate about the shows he thinks are "must-see," including artists like Abraham Alexander, Angel Saint Queen, Diarrhea Planet, Portugal. the Man, Vulfpeck, and Devon Gilfillian. Check out these artists and more on his curated Spotify playlist here.
Elsewhere, the crew discusses if they're ever going to update the Bonnaroo app, and more.
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Every Bonnaroovian has that one show.
They want all of their camp to show up for.
What will be that show for me at Bonnaroo 2023?
It might surprise you.
Today's episode of The What Podcast, Brad's picks.
Barry Courter, Lord Taco, Brad Steiner, The What Podcast
with our final round of picks.
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Taco, Barry, how is everyone doing?
I am great.
Now have you guys started mapping out your gear yet?
Have we done gear check in yet?
Making the mental notes right now, yes.
Probably in the next few days, going
to start making that big pile in the basement
to pull everything out and see what needs to be replaced.
And yeah, the big pile in the basement.
Is that where you're going?
How are you going to fit another pile into the basement?
I see where you're going.
Yeah, no, good point.
Most of it I've kept in one place.
Taco, the bus update?
I think we're going to go plan B.
You getting a little nervous?
I'm not nervous.
I'm just not expecting to be ready.
OK, all right.
Now when you don't have the bus, do you have all the gear
that you need for actual camping?
Because normally you just pile everything in the bus.
Do you have everything you need to actually
like exist on the farm?
It's all in the bus.
Everything exists in the bus.
So how do you pivot?
I think that's the question.
What are you going to do?
Like I talked about last week, I have a backup vehicle
ready to go.
So just remember, if you need somebody to come over and test
equipment and clean and bury quarters available most
And has references.
Yeah, I can be a reference on this one too if you need to,
All right, I'll see you here tomorrow.
So all right, good.
I have my picks ready.
I'm very excited.
Now with all this being said, I still
don't know my travel plans.
I don't know how.
I just don't foresee getting in on Thursday this year.
The earliest I would get would be Friday morning.
But I don't know.
The earliest I would get would be Friday morning.
But it may just end up being Saturday.
But I do have picks for Thursday and Friday
as if I would be on the farm just in case
something miraculous happens.
But yeah, the travel plans are getting a little dicey
as of right now.
What about Barry?
Any changes in your plans so far?
A little bit.
Yeah, I think I've told both of you.
I will have changed jobs by then.
So I'm going to have to wait and see how that impacts.
But I'm kind of like you.
I'm probably looking at Friday.
Definitely not Tuesday like Taco.
But that wasn't going to happen anyway.
That's just too much.
I don't know how he does it.
I don't either.
Yeah, so we'll see.
But I'm going to be there for sure.
I'm looking forward.
So Taco, does not having the bus change your Tuesday entry
No, like I said, I have a backup vehicle
ready to go.
So the plans.
Yeah, but it's not as comfortable as the bus.
The ease of use is a little different.
It's pretty much the same, yeah.
Meaning you can't sleep in the Walmart parking lot.
Yeah, I can.
I'm betting he's not going to change.
I'm going Tuesday.
Yeah, I'm betting he's going to somebody
with a similar accommodation.
Whether it's an old girlfriend or not, I don't know.
Well, you know, I'm not going to downgrade.
I'm not going to downgrade the experience.
Oh, I thought you meant women.
Oh, I've already downgraded that.
Because I think, yeah, I think there
could be some arguments there.
You guys ready to dive into some picks?
Let me ask you this.
You teased the one that can't miss.
Can you give us a hint before we get started?
What day will this act be performing on?
See if we can guess before.
Well, that's tough because this person's on multiple days.
That's what I was going to say, DJ Mel.
Well, I mean, there are so few options for DJ Mel.
So you've got to pick very clever with your pick.
You don't want DJ Mel on Thursday.
It's the DJ Mel Saturday that you're.
What's his real big show?
What's the show that you can't miss for DJ Mel?
That's the one I want to go to because there's
so many to choose from.
That's what I'm trying to.
That's what we're trying to get at, kind of pin you down.
No, I do love this idea.
And I do think that secretly we all have that one show we want
everybody at camp to go to so that they can experience
the one band or the artist that you love so much
or maybe is the highlight of your festival.
Mine is a little different this year in that I've got my
highlights and my can't misses of the day.
And then it's the thing I want all the camp guys to go to.
Two different things.
It's not a can't miss, but it's one that I think that
everybody will have the best time at no matter what.
Everybody could coalesce around this one artist and leave
saying, wow, that was really, really f'ing good.
Does that make sense?
That's why I'm looking back through the trying to guess.
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.
We all have that.
And the one thing that I'm going to probably forego doing
is going into Plaza Picks because that never
works out for me.
I know I want the Bob Moses DJ set at some point.
I know I want to get there.
But to do that, I got to leave my morning jacket.
I don't know.
Now that I think about it, it's the one thing that is not
a lot of conflicts, but boy, that's one.
And I just don't think it's going to happen.
So I'm going to forego any of the plazas,
at least as an official pick pick for me,
because I just don't know how I make it happen.
I don't know how to.
This is what I'm hearing from all three of us
is maybe it's because we've done it so long
and that sounds like such an old man thing,
but maybe it's just experience.
It's one thing to get this line up and say,
I'm going to go here, and then I'm going to bounce over there,
and then I'm going to bounce back over there.
And we all three know, he ain't bouncing nowhere.
There's no bouncing.
The only bouncing that's going to happen is the big three.
In one space, yeah, you might bounce from this to that.
But even going from the what to the other is a pretty good
hike, especially depending on the time of day.
Oh my god.
Oh my god, forget it.
But with all that being said, I do
have a pretty ambitious schedule that I probably
have not had this many picks in quite many years.
So I went light and you went heavy.
Bigger than I anticipate, especially early.
So if you want to jump in.
Where are we going, Thursday?
So if you want to jump into Thursday, let's do it.
And this is what I love about Thursday
is that it starts exactly how I want the festival to start.
And with artists that perfectly ease you into this weekend.
And it starts with an artist that I
think that Barry Courter is going
to leave absolutely mind blown, eyes wide open, in love with.
And that's Abraham Alexander.
This dude's voice is out of control.
Beautiful R&B, soul singer.
It's just it's the perfect entryway into this weekend.
Every note is perfect.
Every feeling is right.
Barry, you're going to fall in love with this dude.
Already started to.
Because very similarly after that is another sort
of low tempo.
I like to start very quietly and slowly.
You know what I'm going to say next,
our girls of Angel St. Queen.
I've been keeping this story for the podcast,
but this is why I love Becca Castle so much.
She started at the radio station that I
worked in in Chattanooga, Tennessee one day.
And she comes in and she's so quiet, so respectful
And one day she just says to us, you know, I play music.
And I'm like, and whenever you hear that, you just,
no you don't.
I'm a poet.
Did you know I'm a poet?
Hey, I do stand up.
No, you don't.
So me and Alex, we sort of just scoffed at her
and didn't really think anything about it.
And then she played us like a video
that she had saved on our email.
She just went over to the computer,
started playing a thing.
And I looked over at Alex and I said, holy shit,
she's really good.
Really, really good.
And I kind of just didn't see this thing coming.
And I haven't even told her this yet.
I love her album.
It's actually really, really good.
So to watch it all sort of manifest into this thing.
And when she posted it, I kind of thought it was a joke.
Becca's a really funny girl.
And I just kind of thought that it was a made up band
that she had created.
The fact that it's actually a real thing
and it's actually really good totally took me by surprise.
But then I say to myself, why would it?
Why should that taken me surprise?
You know, this girl can do anything that she wants.
So it's going to go Angel St. Queen.
And then I start turning the heat up with Sookie Waterhouse.
You know, Sookie is not going to be for everyone.
But that is the next sort of like knob you turn it up to.
If I started at a two or three, Sookie's taking me to a five
and getting me a little bit more turned up so that I can go
to a band that I think is going to start to break in 2023
from Chicago dead.
D-E-H-D. A little bit of punk, a little bit of alt rock,
a little bit of ND, and maybe a little bit of pop in there too.
It's a fantastic entry point.
This is exactly leading up.
The ramp is getting there to the best show of the weekend.
The one that I think is going totally underrated
because this is a massive get for Bonnaroo where you don't,
I don't know how many other places are getting the return
of Diarrhea Planet for the first time
in almost 10 years Nashville zone.
The fact that they're doing an entry show the weekend,
or the week of Bonnaroo in Nashville,
then the comeback of Bonnaroo.
That is going to be the highlight
of maybe the entire weekend, but for sure Thursday.
That band is a band that I fell in love with 10 years ago.
I love, look, I love Garage Punk maybe more so than I let on.
And those guys just put out exceptional album
after exceptional album.
And the fact that they went away,
we didn't really know why, and now they're back.
I don't know if they're ever going to be back.
I don't know if this is the one thing
that if I don't make Thursday I'm going to be broken hearted
because I don't know if I'm ever going
to see this show again, Barry.
So with that being said.
An upgraded slot, right?
It's the slot, right?
It feels like the slot for Thursday.
I mean, I guess you could say Zedd's Dead is the real
headliner in Liquid Stranger, but it's Diarrhea Planet
for me, and then of course Big Freedia New Orleans
own wraps up the night.
What I mean, you know, that Thursday,
as the kids say, the hype.
You know, Thursday is crazy.
Everybody is ready.
Everybody is ready to explode.
They've been walking around.
They've been driving for 10, 14 hours.
You know, they're there.
It's now 11.45.
No, I didn't say it.
I didn't say it.
I can't believe it.
I can't believe we made it this far in the season, Tonto.
I didn't say it.
I said they're there finally.
They've made the trip.
They're in camp.
You know, it's now 11.45.
It's Thursday. It's time to go.
That's what I mean.
It's a great slot.
And for me personally, the ramp up is perfectly positioned
and I'm getting some legs under me
and that's gonna be the fear.
Like if I could go really hard right now,
but I'm gonna have to keep myself and pull myself back.
But man, I'm so excited about Diarrhea Planet.
And that's the show that I would want no one to miss
on the Thursday lineup.
Not the camp.
That's not my camp pick.
But Big Freedia is the final one there.
And I say that because New Orleans own.
I mean, Big Freedia means so much to that city.
Bounce music is such a constant part
of the soundtrack of New Orleans.
Of all the things that we've lost in Bonnaroo
through these years of becoming a little bit more
mainstream and controlled by the big conglomerates.
The one thing I miss is the connection to New Orleans.
Losing Superfly and some of the history of the festival.
The fact that we at least have somebody from New Orleans
on the front end and then the back end of the revivalist.
At least there's something still connected to that city.
So there you go.
That's my Thursday.
It seems lighter maybe because of the sound
of the artists that I'm starting with
and how easy the first couple of shows are.
But it's still a lot.
It's still a lot.
It's still a lot of back to backs.
Yeah, it's a good path.
So Friday is the stunner for me.
And how stacked Friday is more so than I anticipated
when I saw it on the poster.
But now that I see it on the grid,
oh my God, I don't know how I'm doing most of this.
But we will tackle it as we continue through my own picks
next on the What Podcast.
And we enter Friday.
Barry, Taco, I don't remember how you guys
started your Friday.
But I don't think you started it the way that I did.
Barry, what was your first artist on Friday?
I think it was a King Fish walk by maybe.
So can you remind me who King Fish is?
Young, well he was.
He was like a 16 year old phenom blues guitar player
who's probably now 20 or 22.
Okay, it's not the old 70s band King Fish.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Okay, all right.
Just make it short.
His name is Chris,
or something, wasn't it?
My first pick Friday was A.F.I.
Okay, all right, good.
So we're gonna all start differently.
We're gonna go separate ways.
Sampa the Great.
So this woman, I mean not only are the beats
and the soundscape so big and,
her voice just explodes.
She's got this cult of personality for me.
I don't know what the show's gonna be like.
I've never seen it.
I have no earthly idea.
But she's just got this look.
She's got this attitude on stage
that I am dying to find out.
I'm dying to find out if it's gonna be as great
as I think it might.
So I could be there for 15 minutes,
or I could be there for 45.
I don't know.
But then it doesn't really matter
because I'm gonna stay on this tent and go to Black MIDI.
And I'll tell you why.
Black MIDI for me is about the entry point for Knocked Loose.
I'm not going to Knocked Loose.
But the closest I get to Knocked Loose
is gonna be Black MIDI.
I don't necessarily have the,
I don't really have the,
The strict, yeah.
And you think the hams too?
They're gonna get beat the hell up.
I just don't, I don't have it in me anymore.
That was a different time of my life.
I'd have been all in the Knocked Loose.
But no, Black MIDI's about as close as I'm gonna get to.
And actually a band that I've really gotten turned on to
in the last 12 months.
I like them.
I don't know how much of that I will love.
But it's definitely where I'm going
because I'm trying to sort of like be active
and engage so that, I don't know,
I keep my energy up and I don't just stay at camp
the whole day because I really wanna see Rina Sawayama.
Rina Sawayama had my favorite album of maybe 2020 and 2022.
It feels like this is the first time Dua Lipa
Remember that Thursday Dua Lipa played
and I tried to look at everybody and I'm like,
guys, she's gonna, this is the next star.
You need to go to this show.
This is where Rina feels like,
where she's playing now is which is bigger than Dua's
first stop, or first spot on the Bonnaroo lineup.
But man, I could see her coming back and headlining
an early seven, eight o'clock show
in the next couple of years.
I just think that she is poised to be a massive,
I just love her so much.
And then Portugal.
Universally, Portugal is a band that the live show
always out punts the recorded material,
which is crazy to say considering Portugal
has one of the biggest hits maybe of the last 15 years.
Feel It Still was a massive hit across every format
and even to this day is one of the biggest songs
that at least my industry plays.
So to say that they are a better live band
than they are on a session, man oh man.
This show was universally adored years ago
when they were at the, I think it was this tent
in 2019 or 2018.
This is an absolute slam dunk, cannot miss what stage show
and is probably the best early what stage show
you're gonna have all season.
That is something that I would be stunned
if you didn't try and figure out a way to make it to.
And then you sort of like come down with Noah Khan
and the reasons for that is they're obvious
because he's A, been on the show
and having a moment that will make that tent unbearable.
It might be the biggest crowd
that that tent will have all weekend.
I don't know why they decided to put him there at that time
with almost no like sounding artists.
Normally if they have a big show like this
that they know that they are gonna probably
not have space for, they put somebody on against them
to do a little audience splitting.
This show is gonna be out of control.
There's gonna be way too many people there
and I worry that if you are far enough back,
you know back on the grass there,
you know as that tent sort of like,
get to that back grass area where there's
a little bit of elevation.
I feel like you're gonna get lost.
The sound's gonna be too soft.
It might be a tad too slow.
I don't know if this is the best slot for him.
I don't think it's the best slot
and I don't think it's the best stage.
If he was gonna be on that,
I would have preferred him like a four o'clock.
I don't know.
I have a worry about that.
I have a worry that it's gonna be far, far, far too big
for the stage but afterwards I'm going to Fleet Fox's
because I think that if another band should have been
on which is the Fleet Fox's, only selfishly, Barry,
so that one, right about seven o'clock, eight o'clock,
nine o'clock when the sun was going down,
we could look around and have that
Bonnaroo moment that we love so much during my Conus.
Fleet Fox's was the sound that I wanted, man.
Fleet Fox's was the Friday night, oh my God, we're here.
It started, right?
It's finally started.
I've got that feeling again.
That's what I wanted and that's what the biggest
disappointment I had when the schedule,
or I'm sorry, when the grid came out,
when the schedule came out, I wanted Fleet Fox's
on The Witch and I wanted them in Sundown
and we didn't get it.
And we're going to be on this tent and I'm going to
maybe miss the moment but I don't care.
I love that band so much.
You can have Grizz.
I know people like Grizz.
I know people love Kendrick.
I don't need to see this show again.
So I'm taking my night off and hanging back
until I get to Wolfpack.
I don't know why.
I have been so easily able to disregard
every time Wolfpack has a show near me.
I don't know why I've done it that way.
Because never fails, if I'm just sitting around the house,
I'm always ending up with a Wolfpack song every damn time.
And it's because they fit every sonic thing
that Barry, you know that I love, right?
Yeah, I understand.
Great voice, soul, they got that soul sort of structure
to every song, great horns, everything that I love
wrapped up into one band and I don't know why
I have been so easily dismissive of seeing that show live.
And I've given up the opportunity to see it, I don't know,
two dozen times.
So because of them, that's the singular reason
why I wanna be there on Friday.
Because I just, I can't keep ignoring
and not going to the show.
I get you. You know what I mean?
Yeah, I get you.
All right, anything you think I'm missing on Friday?
Does that get you to Diesel?
You're not gonna go see Diesel?
I mean, look, I will go, I will go, but.
Just to say you did, it's gonna be huge.
That's the only, that's the problem,
it's gonna be so huge.
It will, and I'm not the kind of guy
that gets up in the guts of the other.
So it's being way back there,
I just, it doesn't really do anything for me.
But for those who love it and those who do go to the other
and just sort of camp out right in front
for day upon day upon day, they're gonna love it.
I'm not gonna do that, but I wanna lay eyes.
I wanna at least lay eyes so I can say I did.
Okay, well, I'll go with you.
I'll go with you, I have no problem with that.
This is about, this is where you could probably convince me
at two o'clock in the morning
to make some really bad decisions.
After Volfpeck and sort of a night where I've.
Welcome to my world.
It's been, yeah, this is when I could be convinced
to go out to the plazas and stay till sun up.
Or go dance the Gucci Mane at 5.30 in the morning.
With Jim Burr.
Yeah, with the elderly.
And I mean.
So we can tell how cool we are.
I hope I don't because there's a lot for Saturday
that starts really early.
Another band that I cannot believe,
Barry has not stumbled across at this point.
I think these guys are the Black Pumas equivalent.
These Sacred Souls start at one o'clock.
I love this band.
I love this band so much.
This is, I hate using other bands as markers
for other artists that you don't know.
But it's the easiest way for me to sort of explain.
These Sacred Souls, I don't really know where they're from.
But definitely a lot of Black Pumas in there.
Barry, it's right up your alley.
A lot of soul stuff happening with these guys.
And frankly, it gets me out into Centauru
so that it forces me to just let go
and let Parker and Reed have it and go to the Beths.
I actually love this band.
And it's because of Parker and Reed.
Love those guys.
I will be honest with you.
I had never really given them much attention
until Parker and Reed wouldn't shut up about them.
So I started listening and they've got a certain song, Barry,
for a guy like you and a guy like me.
Hits a little bit too close to home.
Cuts a little, cuts going in and coming out.
The song is expert in a dying field.
And Radio Guy meet newspaper writer
and it is getting a little bit too close to the sun.
But I do wanna,
cause we're probably not, I'm probably gonna miss them.
If I show up on Saturday, this will be my entry point.
And the first faces I see are Barry, Taco and Parker.
Right, well what's wrong with that?
Yeah, what's the problem?
Nothing, nothing, nothing problem with that.
So this is where the problems arise,
right after the Beths.
So you walk around and you get some lunch.
If I remember correctly, Taco,
you're going to Andrew McMahon right now.
Andrew McMahon, right?
Saturday around two o'clock.
Okay, I thought you picked Andrew McMahon on this one.
No, I didn't put anything until three for Devin.
Great, because this is the one.
This is the one.
This is the camp show.
This is the one I want every single person that I know
to show up for.
This dude deserves it.
This dude deserves the shot.
He deserves this look.
And the show is fucking great.
It is great.
And you know, if it was great on a tiny Mercury lounge stage,
I can't imagine how big it sounds on that tent.
So it's the one that I implore you,
if you are a friend of mine,
if you believe any of my recommendations or picks,
show up for Devin.
I think that this guy has got every,
I think he's got it all.
I think he's got it all.
He's got the voice.
He's got the respect for who came before him.
It's the show I'm most excited about, weirdly enough,
the show I'm most excited about on Saturday.
I'll be there.
Oh, he was, he's one of my favorite interviews
that we've done over six years, for sure.
And you know what?
There's no BS.
He's exactly, exactly that way.
It was, what?
I mean, Russ, you felt it because we've talked about it.
Like two minutes, we were like old friends.
Brad, you already knew him, but-
I thought you were talking about Andrew McMahon.
We're past that.
Catch up, catch up.
We're talking about Devin.
What a great interview you had.
Yeah, it was a good interview.
It's like instant, we all knew each other.
And then his music is so good.
He came off the stage at Mercury Lounge,
and Baneru Evan, Evan Baneru will admit to this too.
He comes off stage at Mercury Lounge
and literally sits there and talks
to every single person in the audience.
Every one of them.
Hugging everybody, high-fiving,
conversations, deep conversations.
It didn't matter.
The dude just has this spirit
and this infectious personality.
I just want everybody to feel and love him
the way that I love him.
And I think that you will.
If you give him a shot three o'clock on Saturday,
it's late enough, you can sleep in, you'll be fine.
Plus he loves Marvin Gaye.
He will do some Marvin Gaye.
That's all you need to know right there.
Nobody better than Marvin Gaye.
And here's the thing.
Here's the reason why I wanna be so adamant about this.
Because he's given you another shot at a smaller stage.
And I can't remember, Taka, correct me if I'm wrong.
Isn't that Friday afternoon or something like that?
It's like he's giving you a second show.
Don't do that.
Do the big one.
Go to both if you want to.
I don't know, don't listen to me.
But go to the big one.
The smallest, the Toyota Den show that he's gonna do
is probably just gonna be him
and maybe a backup singer too.
But I want the big stage show.
I wanna see how this looks
where his voice can fill the entire tent and it will.
I have all the confidence in the world.
Cool, good pick.
No argument there.
And then I'm going to Jenny Lewis.
For all the reasons why I'm going to forgo
seeing Sylvan Esso last night
because I've seen the show 50 times.
I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth.
I've seen Jenny Lewis 50 times and I don't care.
God, I love her so much.
And I don't know how to bottle the edge by saying,
I'm not gonna see Sylvan Esso last night
because I've seen it so many times,
but I'm gonna go see Jenny Lewis
because I've seen it so many times.
I don't know how to justify that, but I love her.
It is kind of strange that somebody that is that,
I don't know, for me, this feels like
an underplay for her.
345 on Witch, where, I mean, she's in front of
the band Camino?
That seems strange to me.
This seems like an underbooking for somebody
as big as Jenny Lewis.
But with that being said, that gets me to Sheryl Crow.
This is not a show I'm excited about,
but it is one of those that I know is gonna be great.
I know it's gonna be so magical and lovely.
It's weird, because a lot of people say the same thing.
It's like, ah, Sheryl Crow, but don't miss it
because the last time I saw her, it was great.
Yeah, it's just one of those Kenny Rogers moments
where I gotta go because I know it's gonna be really good.
And the other thing too is, I don't think that she gets,
maybe she does, maybe I'm sort of making this up,
but does she get enough credit for as many hits as she has?
No, that's what I mean.
She gets that sort of, eh, you know, I think I like her,
but everyone who goes to see it, it's like,
what a great show.
I had no idea it was gonna be that great.
I mean, it's that kind of thing.
I highly doubt that she plays a song you don't know.
And then I'm gonna take some time off.
I'm gonna take a lot of time off.
And then I'm gonna come back for Sophie Tucker.
Mainly because I like Sophie Tucker.
I like Sophie Tucker a lot, but I gotta warm up
into the sort of electronic sounds
so that I can get ready for Bob Moses.
Bob Moses is gonna be the moment where my night
is gonna go in a lot of different ways.
Bob Moses, I don't know if I can properly convey
what I'm trying to say here.
But once, let's say 845 hits,
Brad might be on another planet.
Because I love Bob Moses, and that show is the one
that I want to see the most on the plaza,
and I'm not gonna be able to see it
because of what happens later tonight,
so I gotta see it now.
I don't really think that I'm gonna make time
for the super jam, but I am gonna do Bob Moses,
and I am gonna try and hang back in the back for Odessa.
That's not an official pick.
That's just sort of like an extra.
But then it's My Morning Jacket.
The story about My Morning Jacket is one
that I'm not very proud of saying and talking about
because I dogged on this band for years.
In the 2004 set, I threw my hands up and I rolled my eyes,
didn't listen to it, didn't go.
2006 comes around, I still just, you know,
I was just so anti anything that I thought was a jam band
because, unfairly, by the way,
because I was so irritated by bands like Widespread Panic.
I just hated them so much.
And then this, I don't know, Taco,
I don't know if you know this guy named Barry Courter.
Heard of him.
He comes around and he just keeps beating me up,
saying, what are you talking about?
My Morning Jacket is great.
My Morning Jacket is great.
And what does Barry make me do?
He forces me, forces me to go to Louisville.
He makes me drive.
He makes me pay for the Airbnb.
He makes me do all the work
so that he can go see My Morning Jacket with me.
And my God was that head turner, eye opener, game changer.
I cannot believe that I slept so long
and so hard on My Morning Jacket.
Worth every penny, wasn't it?
Yeah, I mean, I'm not a big jam band with all the noodling.
They don't noodle.
You know, I just like them.
To me, they were the turning point.
Can I make this clear?
Of course they're not a jam band.
But I was an idiot.
Well, I get you.
I just assumed they were.
And I didn't listen.
I didn't pay any attention.
I just assumed and said no.
And frankly, it was a little bit of Brian Stone too.
I mean, he's got such bad taste
that if he said he liked something, I knew I hated it.
Yeah, so it was the one that he got right.
I just, for me, they were such a turning point in Bonnaroo
in, was it 07 or 08?
You're better at years than I am.
But whatever that year was,
it just completely turned me around
and I fell in love with festivals.
I fell in love with them.
I came home and it's all I listened to.
It literally was all I listened to for two months.
I will say that it is harder for me to session them.
Yeah, I get that.
Than it is for you.
But this is the show of the weekend,
other than the Foo Fighters,
that if you are a Bonnaroovian, right?
If you are a true blood OG,
you go to the My Morning Jacket show.
Something special feels like that's,
something special's gonna happen at that show.
And you and I have talked about,
when you hear a certain song,
it immediately takes you to the field at Bonnaroo.
And this is that.
This is that band that we, for me,
that they're the reference point.
There are others, but they are that reference point.
You know you're at Bonnaroo.
Are you picking up their record?
They're putting out a record of one of their Bonnaroo sets,
I didn't get pre-sale,
because it was sold out, but I will get one, yes.
Well, so I'm glad you brought that up, Taco,
because if you remember, months and months and months ago,
when I said that there is going to be a band
that plays Bonnaroo, it's going to be a big moment,
it's gonna be a big look,
and it's gonna hearken back to the days
of the original Bonnaroo, that's what I was meaning.
The fact that they're going to release
that live album at Bonnaroo, from the Bonnaroo show,
was such a beautiful and perfect piece of symmetry,
and I didn't really want to ruin it
and say it out loud last couple months ago,
but if you're smart enough, you're gonna figure it out.
But that's who I was talking about,
and I don't know how to say it any clearer
than this is gonna be a moment.
My Morning Jacket show, 12.30, it will go later,
I mean, I just don't see them only playing for two hours.
No, I agree.
It's gonna be a moment.
Your other option is STS9, the other corner,
so yeah, it's gonna be huge.
That's a great point, Barry.
I didn't even think about that.
There's no way that I think that show
will only last two hours.
Just getting started.
And there's some other, this.
I wanna go back real quick, Winona Fighter.
What's the name of the song they put out?
Oh, Ham's in a Glass.
Ham's in a Glass.
That's pretty cool.
The whole day was built for the Ham's Kits.
Starting with the Beths,
and now ending with Winona Fighter.
That's hilarious, good for them.
It's a fun, it's a great song, if you like thrash.
Yeah, I told them they need to do PBR next.
I'm sure they'll get right to it.
But if you look at that Who's Stage lineup,
it is really strange to go from a band like The Moss,
which is this sort of jangly,
singer, indie rock band,
into what Winona Fighter is.
Which, I mean, I got Bruce just listening to it.
Which makes sense.
You know, you remind me, am I missing something?
Has the Silent Disco ever been on a stage before?
It was always its own.
Yeah, it was always its own standalone thing.
So now the Silent Disco is on the Who's Stage.
I guess I'm just, I guess I'm missing something.
Has that, I guess because the Silent Disco
has been so low key fantastic for, I don't know, 15 years,
that I just sort of ignore it on the lineup.
Well, the Who's Stage is not just the stage.
There's like a whole structure to it, you know?
Like the, there's like a canopy coming out.
I mean, it's pretty big.
Yeah, I just don't remember seeing that on a stage lineup.
No, it was always its own. Maybe I'm wrong.
It was always its own space.
Yeah, sort of like Snake and Jake's.
Is that the only Silent Disco availability on the weekend?
Or did I miss that too?
In that space, that's what I was just looking back.
Oh, okay, so it's on Friday, okay, it's every night.
It's every night, closes out each night.
Got it, okay, got it, got it, okay.
Well, that makes more sense.
And then, you know, we're right back to,
there's two things that can happen
after the My Morning Jacket show, right?
You can go make some bad decisions
or you can play it like our buddy
and our camp sensei, Mike Doer,
and realize that you just had your moment and pack it in.
After the legendary Paul McCartney show,
it was a Friday night and Mike Doer
had just gotten there early Friday.
And, you know, he walked around with Barry
and, you know, shot the shit with all of us and,
you know, held court like he always does.
Mike's an older guy, so, you know,
I'm not looking for him to go rage, but the man moves.
I mean, he doesn't, he goes step for step,
pound for pound with you through the farm.
He sees Paul McCartney and, you know,
we all leave pretty high on life,
not, you know, high on life, high on the show.
It was just euphoria after it.
We walked back to the camp
and I see Mike packing up his stuff.
And I thought something bad had happened.
I thought something, like, there was some problem at home.
I'm like, Doer, what are you doing?
Is everything okay?
He said, I had my moment, I'm leaving.
I was like, wait, you're leaving?
He's like, it will never get better than that.
No matter what happens from here on out,
nothing will top that.
So he literally hit his greatest hits, great joke
and said, goodnight everybody.
And walked out of the room, didn't come back.
I thought that was so baller.
It was so baller.
He did the same a couple years ago.
He and Chrissy and I, another one of our camp mates,
that was the day we went.
Davey, the Warren treaty, cried like babies.
Martha, Mavis Staples cried.
And then we went and saw Nile Rogers,
who told everybody that he just found out
he was cancer-free and we cried.
And all three of us looked at each other and said,
and we're going back to camp, I'm done.
I mean, what else, I mean, that was such an emotional day.
Jesus, that is a lot.
It's one of my favorite days ever.
Cause you know, you don't expect to have that kind
of emotion once, much less, I mean, and the Davey show was,
it was not, we didn't, there wasn't tears
because it was sad or not sad, but emotional like the other,
but it was just so happy.
They were so happy.
They were so happy.
And that's the same feeling I'm going to get from Devin,
to be honest with you.
There are moments like, I remember taco,
I don't know if you remember, but a lot of times
on this show, especially the picks version of the show,
we keep looking around and we're like,
oh, this is the moment where we sob like a baby.
You know, there's just too many of those.
Not a lot of those this year.
I don't think I have any moment where I'm gonna be like,
oh no, I feel it.
Get you in the field, I don't know.
I don't think I have it this year.
You got a diesel?
A little bit.
I was looking for one of those.
I'm wrapping up Sunday.
That's a big day.
Saturday is gonna be, I'm gonna wrap up Sunday
and my festival next on the What Podcast, Brad picks.
I told you it was gonna be a pretty thick lineup for me.
Mainly not because I'm in love with a lot,
but there's a lot of stuff that I wanna see
and just experience and give a try
because a lot of this I haven't seen before.
You know, like I've said in the past,
I feel so irritated that I've punted on Wolf Pack
show after show after show.
I'm irritated that I didn't see Fleet Foxes more
when I was growing up.
I still haven't seen Rina Sawayama
and then Bob Moses who plays in the city in New York
all the time and I just never go because, you know,
I'm in bed at three o'clock.
But so there's a lot of stuff that I finally want
to experience for the first time and then, you know,
come Saturday with My Morning Jacket
and it's a band that for me doesn't really,
I love My Morning Jacket,
but I don't know if I wanna see them at Radio City.
I want to see them at Bonnarite.
I get it.
So yeah, so it may not be like a lineup
and a schedule that I'm in love with,
but it's a lot of stuff that I wanna check boxes off of.
You know what I mean?
I think in Russ's picks were similar to mine.
It's interesting that we're all staying within center-rew,
first of all, but the lineups work.
I mean, I think we said this when it first came out,
we didn't really have any major conflicts.
It's pretty stunning how they've been able
to put this together and so that we can,
all three of us find lanes.
You know what I mean?
I don't have any major conflicts.
The only one that I could probably, you know,
force myself to have a conflict of is like something
on Friday or, you know, if I really wanted to say,
I don't know, Rina Sawayama and I don't know,
Matt Mason, you know, if I really wanted to see
a Matt Mason show or Muna, I don't know.
I'd have to force a conflict at this point.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Sunday starts with a band that,
another one that I'm going to almost,
this is not a force camp to go see,
but it's something that I want everyone to understand
that when you see EZI Sound anywhere,
believe it to be great.
Believe in Dan Arbok,
Hermanos Gutierrez, it's a duo that's all instrumental.
That's gonna be as close to our church moment
as we're gonna get on Sunday.
Yeah, that was-
It's a tad early though.
It's a tad early, yeah, Taco had it.
Taco had it, it's a little early at 1.15, but Barry,
this is it.
It's all right.
This is so lovely.
You know, it's a good time to shake the cobwebs.
It's not too early, you know, it's gonna be hot,
we'll be awake, so kind of wander over
and clear the head a little bit and then go back and-
Yeah, did you see the meme that was posted in our Discord?
I don't even know how to get to our Discord.
Seriously, I have no idea how that happens.
Is that an app?
Oh God, another app, okay.
All right, so I gotta get all this Discord now, huh?
You're already in there.
Yeah, you're in there.
Is AI saying things for me?
You're both joined, but yeah.
Oh, I don't even have this app downloaded.
All right, I'm downloading it now.
How do I find our own Discord?
I'll post it on the screen.
Okay, please do.
Oh, I totally failed you, I'm sorry.
Thanks for keeping up the Discord, Taco.
Among everything else.
Please don't go out there, why does Brad hate me?
He never responds.
So what's my login?
I don't even know my login.
I'm guessing it's Brad Stinks, right?
It's gotta be, right?
Is that what my name is on the screen when I don't talk?
I don't know.
Oh no, Barry, do you ever go to the Discord?
I look at it every day, pretty much,
but mostly what I see is Taco playing video games,
so I just move on.
Well, I thought you're all over our Discord page, too.
I'll see like 13 new whatever,
and it'll all be 12 of them, Taco playing some video game.
Please click each image containing tissue paper.
How am I supposed to know this?
My password and login's invalid.
I don't know how to do this.
I'll figure that out.
Remind me to do that, sorry.
You've been trying to talk to Brad on Discord,
now you know why he's not answering.
He doesn't need to.
Terrible at it.
I did, I ghosted you.
I'll post some on Twitter, too.
Okay, thank you, I appreciate that.
Now, can you log me in?
Can you log me in?
So, Hermanus Gutierrez, this is also one
that I anticipate Dan showing up for.
Maybe not on stage, but he's gonna be hanging out somewhere.
And it's the time where I get to rekindle my love
with Dan Arbok.
We had a very, one of the greatest days of my life
was in his studio listening to just shit he's working on.
So, I just wanna scope out where Dan Arbok's gonna go.
And by the way, if Dan Arbok is there,
just follow wherever he goes.
Because he knows what he's doing.
I'm secretly hoping that I can,
like he does a lot of like weird DJ sets
out of nowhere in the city, in LA and New York,
And I'm hoping like, maybe he just like jumps on
and does a late night DJ set if he shows up.
That would be pretty hot.
I'm gonna forgo Franz Ferdinand.
I've seen the show a million times.
If you haven't seen it and you like him, go.
I've just, I've seen it and it just never has changed
a lot for me.
I could get convinced to go to Hippo Camp
and these are not official picks.
Hermanus Gutierrez says, I could be convinced
to go to Hippo Campus.
I'm not over the moon.
You're not getting me to Umphreys McGee.
Just not happening.
But I am doing Revivaless.
You know how much I love the Revivaless?
You know how much I love Zack?
You know how much I love Dave?
These guys mean a lot to the city of New Orleans.
Not only that, I love the band and I love the new album.
I don't know if you guys have spent any time
with the new track or the new album in total,
but I really like it.
And it feels perfect for Sunday night or Sunday afternoon.
Yeah, and I'm excited to see them own that stage.
This is the biggest stage, festival stage
that they're probably ever gonna, they've ever played.
I know Jazz Fest is a big deal,
but that's because they're a New Orleans band.
This is probably the biggest look they've ever had.
And they've had one of the biggest hits
the last 15 years too, like Portugal the Man.
So it's nice to see them get this shot
and I think they're gonna destroy.
And then after that, I'm a taco.
I'm gonna try and grab a few minutes
at the end of Peach Pit.
I love Peach Pit so much.
Another one that's tough for people to session,
but that show is so fun.
Don't sleep on that.
And then, I know there's gonna be some poll to go
to Paramore and Girl in Red.
And then I know there's people who wanna do
15 seconds of Marcus Mumford
just so they hear the Ted Lasso song.
But mostly it's gonna be Peach Pit and Pixies.
Here's where the problem,
here's where the problems arise.
And Taco, I think you might have the same problem.
Are you gonna stick through the entire end of the Pixies?
Are you gonna go front to back with it?
No, I think there was a conflict.
Hang on, let me pull it up.
Because here's, I don't feel comfortable
leaving the Pixies at 9.30
only for the Foo Fighters to start at 9.30.
This is one of those shows,
I think this is the one conflict that I have.
I know that it's not a direct conflict,
but to get where I wanna be for the Foo Fighters,
I'm gonna have to forego seeing the Pixies.
I see what you're saying.
It's all the way across at that.
And the way that, and I hate to be-
It's not an easy route.
It's not an easy route, and I hate to be this way,
but the way that we get our spot,
or at least I get my spot for these what stage shows,
I have to meet certain people and we all go in
because escorting certain people,
you have to go at certain times.
And you have to meet them all at certain things.
So I bet that we're gonna have to meet at 8.45
and we're gonna have to walk everybody in at 9
and we'll have to sit there on our little wing
for a half an hour.
So I feel like I'm gonna miss all of the Pixies
and that really, really bumps me.
Yeah, and it's not just that.
The entire place is gonna be trying to get into that.
That's what, that has always confused me
about the what stage.
Everything else is so easily accessed, pretty much.
But they separate that what stage
with those different entry and exit points,
and it just bottlenecks.
I've never quite figured out
why they've done it that way.
It's a really good point.
Yeah, I mean-
Yeah, there's only two ways really in and out.
Right, well three if you're coming in from GA,
And even that bottlenecks.
So I mean, yeah, it's always confused me
why they do it that way.
So hard, and I don't know if they still
have the bleachers there,
but it's so hard when you're on the bleacher side
and you've got like the row of pizza
and corn dogs there on the side.
It's so hard to navigate that space.
It is impossible.
If you're more into Foo Fighters,
it's gonna be a madhouse.
It's gonna be a total mayhem.
I don't know why they do it.
And like any entry and exit point,
everybody gets in and just stops.
Well, I guess this is as far as I can go.
I got my spot, nevermind 60,000 people behind you
trying to get in.
And then you know where I'm finishing.
You know where I'm finishing,
and I've said it a million times,
you know, the Foo Fighters,
I'm going to the Atlanta show with 450 people,
which is gonna be special in and of itself.
But this is this Foo Fighters show.
I mean, words don't describe how absolutely fantastic
this is gonna be.
And I don't care if you're a Foo Fighters fan.
I don't give a damn.
This is the moment of the festival.
This is the moment for a band that's never been there
coming off of what they've come off,
being the last, honestly,
this may be one of the most brilliant,
not just bookings, but placements
that this festival has ever put together.
The fact that they put these guys,
who by every right should be a Friday or Saturday headliner,
the fact that they put them on Sunday,
they knew exactly what they were doing
because they know what they're getting.
And it is going to be a 1230, 1245, 1 a.m. finish.
What a brilliant, not just booking,
but placement by our boys.
I guess, you know, I guess we gotta,
I don't know who we think on that.
Well, think about it too.
Man, oh man, that's perfect.
We've had the pandemic,
and then we had the ticket sales being so low last year,
and now it looks like they're probably gonna sell out.
So it's gonna be huge for everybody.
You gotta think Bonnaroo is thrilled.
We know the Food Fighters.
We talked about that a dozen times on here.
Yeah, it's gonna be a pretty special end of festival.
And that to me is,
I know I've said there's not many can't misses for me.
This is a can't miss.
This is a can't miss.
And you're not talking to a P1 level,
A plus level Food Fighters fan.
I like them.
I like them a lot.
But my favorite Food Fighters song is Stacked Actors.
And that was what, seven albums ago in 1999.
So it's not like I love the entire catalog,
but the sheer mass of the catalog
that can last for four hours
is the thing that's gonna be so fantastic.
And I really do think there is a possibility here
that maybe Corey Wong is the official super jam,
but something tells me that Dave's got a lot of stuff
up his sleeve for guests to come out.
That's just sort of his modus operandi half the time.
I bet he's got some friends in his back pocket coming out.
Kind of part of what I meant a minute ago
is this feels like one of those that any band that can
stick around will be sticking around.
Whether to play or to see it,
but they will be sticking around.
Yeah, that's right.
I totally agree.
And so there you go.
That's pretty much my festival.
It's a meaty sandwich, man.
It's a thick, thick meaty sandwich.
As the kids would call it a chunker.
I think the hams call it a chunker.
And you've created a Spotify list.
You've got a playlist.
What's it called?
Pitacos got it.
He's got it listed here.
So that means all three of ours.
Yeah, we'll put it on show notes.
Is it will be available so you guys can listen.
And that's a great list.
I think it, again, it's interesting how similar,
not in our picks, but in the way we built it,
how similar all three of ours are.
And again, I don't, I mean, it's so weird
to not even be talking about the plazas, but.
Well, because I can't guarantee it.
So the way that I think about these picks is that
this is what I, my suggestions to anyone
who would be listening, these are the picks
that I absolutely don't wanna miss.
I don't know if I can't miss something in the plaza.
I don't know.
I just, I don't know how to navigate that
and absolutely make sure to get to it.
Would I like to pop into where in the woods?
And I probably would.
You know, I found myself in plazas here and there.
But again, I usually find myself in plazas after, you know,
four room, five room.
Well, and the one, the unknown is we don't know
how the access is going to be with this idea of them
taking down some of the barriers between areas, right?
Supposedly, supposedly you're gonna be able to get into VIP
and some of those.
Oh yeah, because the new camping ideas.
So curious to see how that works.
It's either gonna be more open or not.
Are we driving a jam track this year?
I don't know.
That was not a good thing last year.
Well, it wasn't.
It was not a possibility.
No, jam track ended up, you know, rumor,
we've heard everything from the guy who was supposed
to be doing it or the company backed out.
And so they didn't have the number of people,
but it was, if it was, it was a single loop,
Brad is how it works.
So if you got on here, you had to go all the way around
to get to the gate and it took 45 minutes or more.
So supposedly they fixed that and I hope so.
So there's a lot of that that we're gonna have to see
when we get there.
I really wanna drive a jam track though.
I know you do, I still think it's a great idea.
Brad the conductor.
Me and Shaq.
Me and Diesel driving jam tracks.
And Dave Grohl driving the other one.
Do you miss any of the comedy tent stuff?
It was so hard to get in.
I loved the idea of it.
I mean, it was air conditioned,
which was, meant everybody went in there and slept.
It was cool.
That's the movie tent.
They sleep in the movie tent.
They can't sleep in the comedy tent.
I know it wasn't the air conditioning.
The movie tent definitely had the AC.
It was cool seeing Conan.
Yeah, stuff like that.
I think in the plazas have replaced that.
It was the added bonus.
It's like I came here to see the Foo Fighters
and oh, by the way, Conan O'Brien is performing too.
So now it's, I came to see the Foo Fighters
and oh, there's this cool stuff happening in the plaza.
Yeah, I hear you.
That makes sense.
I mean, I hear what you're saying about that.
I just, I kind of miss a little bit of the edginess
of running into Robert Kelly or the times where
Louis CK is just meandering around.
It just feels a little weirder.
Yeah, no, totally.
It added to the cachet.
It was like, oh wow.
You know this is a different festival
because guys like that are there as well.
A couple of things.
The other reason why I've got to make sure
to get there this year is because I was told,
I don't know if you guys know this artist,
but Michigander wants to camp with us this year.
Michigander wants to join Camp Nut Butter.
So he's from Nashville and the other big news
is that we might be seeing Jared and Kristen
at our camp again this year.
They might want to come down and stay for a day.
So we might have a lot of stars at Camp Nut Butter this year.
So get that thing in tip top shape, kids.
We'll do our best.
That thing looking good.
Looking good for old dad.
Do we have anything else to do before we get out of here?
Have you heard anything about the app?
Do you know if they're doing the app?
They better be doing the app.
I don't know.
Look, I just learned about Discord app.
So what other apps do I need to get while I'm here?
You're asking us?
Well, it seems like by now,
the Bonder app would be up to date and published.
Has it not been updated?
As far as I know, it hadn't.
Well, that's something.
I have not.
Shaking knees had no app either.
That would be stunning.
Yeah, especially because they don't do
printed schedules anymore and they always said,
oh, go to the app.
But if there's no app, you know.
You know, I just searched my,
this is how stupid I am and I'm not paying attention.
I went to my app store and I searched Barry.
What'd you find?
I don't know why I did that.
What'd you find?
I don't know, I got out immediately.
All right, I'm downloading the app now.
You sure it just doesn't need to be updated?
It needs to be updated, but have they said anything about it
or like is it getting updated?
I don't know.
Keep all using, thank you Live Nation.
Oh my God, Taco, this is last year's lineup.
I mean, you've gotta be kidding me.
This is really sort of shocking, man.
That's why I wanted to bring it up.
I didn't know if you've heard anything
or if there's been anything said.
Well, I'm sending an email text right now.
This is really surprising.
And actually, this is a, I mean,
the way that this is set up from last year,
it actually looks better than it did in years past.
This is a little bit easier of a navigation,
easier navigate, whatever word I'm trying to say.
It just feels easier than years past, doesn't it?
It was better last year, yeah, it was pretty good.
Rue Quiz, I mean, yeah, this is stunning.
I'm actually shocked by this.
I'm actually shocked by this.
But then they do the damn schedule wrong again.
I can't, I can't with this,
the way that they make this schedule left to right, man.
And nowhere else in this festival
do they list the schedule left to right
except on the website in their app.
Why do they do that?
Top down, top bottom.
It's how it's done everywhere else.
Why do they make me go left to right?
And it's so confusing.
This is really surprising.
So Barry, get on that if you can.
That would be lovely.
All right, guys, anything else before we go?
It's crunch time.
It's crunch time.
How many days?
How many days are we down to?
Less than a month.
Start doing those deep,
start doing those deep knee bends.
Hide, good kicks.
Check out the playlist
and we'll talk to you again next week, all right?
Love you, bye.