Oh, and does it feel like summer yet, Barry Courter?

This is the What Podcast on Lineup Day.

That's Barry Courter on Brad Steiner from WDOD Radio in Chattanooga, Tennessee.

Hits 96, Barry Courter for the Chattanooga Times Free Press.

We've got a couple of things to talk about.

A little bit. Just a few things to talk about.

The lineup has dropped in for the sixth time, the sixth time in Bonnaroo's history,

Tre Anastagio, or could you call this the seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth

time in Bonnaroo's history, Tre Anastagio and or Fish are playing the farm.

They're going to be busy.

When we tweeted this out last night, or right now if we're being honest, there are some shockers here.

Some shockers that are happening on the farm.

Phish is doing three sets.

Now before, I think we all knew when the lineup was sort of leaked.

And we sort of got the idea that it was going to be Phish, Childish Gambino, Post Malone, and some combinations and some other things.

I don't think anyone saw Phish doing three sets.

Yeah, they're gonna do Friday night and then close it up on Sunday doing two sets.

Which is gonna be seven hours, I think.

They might just need to start at noon.

Well that actually may be one set that starts on Friday.

When I look back at the history of the Phish set, especially when you go back to, I think it was 2009 or 2000, yeah it was 2009 when they played two sets.

They didn't do those two sets back to back.

They did the first set on Friday night, which by the way was three and a half hours.

And then they came back on Sunday as the quote unquote legacy act and played for three and a half hours.

Boy, I don't know what they get paid.

But my God almighty, they earn every dollar.

Don't you think that Sunday though is gonna be basically a super jam?

Well, I mean you're going right into it.

I don't know.

Because the only super jams you see, I mean the first thing I asked you is where the super jams are.

I'm calling it a super jam, but you know what I mean.

It'll be an all-star, guests and all that kind of stuff.

Well, this is where my knowledge of bands like Phish really hit the ceiling.

Because I don't know.

I don't know what Phish does.

I have never been a Phish guy.

I mean I got into maybe one album years ago and I thought that was really cool.

But other than that, I have never seen Phish any other time they've been to Bonnaroo.

I have never once even tried to listen to them on an album.

I've never gone to a show outside of Bonnaroo.

I don't know what they do.

So I wrote this down when I first got the line up.

The two words that came to mind immediately was teach me.

Because there's so many things on here I'm gonna need some people to help me out on.

Oh wow, okay.

Especially when it comes to Phish.

See, that was me last year.

Really?

Oh, absolutely.

When you say there's gonna be a super jam for Phish, maybe.

But I don't know anything about their set so I don't know who they'd bring up.

I don't know if they need to.

They don't need to.

They don't have to, but they could bring up basically anybody and everybody that has played

through the whole weekend.

That would be completely in keeping with what they do.

Alright, that would fit?

That would make sense for them?

They can do whatever they want, yeah.

I guess.

I guess.

I mean, when you look at like super jam stuff and super jam possibilities, you got the Grand

Ole Opry, which by the way, I think is an underground stroke of genius.

Putting the Grand Ole Opry on Thursday?

What a phenomenal headliner idea.

You know what weekend that is.

That's CMA weekend.

No, they've switched it this year because of CMA.

They're gonna let CMA do their normal second of June and then Bonnaroo goes later.

So there could be some CMA spillover come, I don't know, say Thursday evening?

Sure, you think so?

Maybe.

That would be phenomenal.

And I promise you, if you look down this line up, you've got plenty of country artists.

You've got Marin Morris.

You've got Brandy Carlisle.

You've got Kacey Musgraves.

That Grand Ole Opry set on Thursday?

Oh man, that's gonna be terrific.

I like it.

I like it.

All right, so that's one super jam.

Then you have the second super jam, which is, I don't even know what to say about this.

I am so confused.

When you have on Friday night a super jam with Grizz, somebody's gonna have to teach me what

Grizz does and why that's gonna work out as a super jam.

Now first off, Grizz has already got a headlining slot, so I'm guessing he's coming back late

night to do a 1am, 2am set for a super jam.

It's gonna be a bunch of, what, EDM guys?

That's the same girl talk as that night.

I don't know.

That part I don't know.

They got something.

They know what they're doing.

They've scheduled this somehow.

I'm baffled by the super jam.

Well, let's talk about the schedule, because everybody's looking at this, I assume, and

listening to us for the first time ever.

They've released it with the schedule.

Why are you not more hyped than me?

Why do I feel like I'm going to 200 miles an hour and you're just, meh?

I'm excited.

This is your excited voice?

Yeah, this is it.

I tell you what really has me excited is the poster.

That's Camp Nut Butter at the top there, folks.

It's got Camp Nut Butter all over it.

Yes, it does.

I love it.

Our buddy Nick Turner, who designed the whole Camp Nut Butter experience with the dripping

butter, when he saw the teasers for what the graphics are going to look like, he kept texting

me over and over and over.

I could not believe that Camp Nut Butter is all over this year's branding.

I love it.

Along those lines, we should probably do it now, we should probably thank them for getting

us this schedule early so we can have this podcast ready to go.

Yeah, because we can't do this in 30 seconds.

No, we can't do all this.

Let me ask you this.

First impressions.

You said your first two words, but we always do this.

It seems like every year we have a first impression, then we sit on it for a couple of weeks.

We hated it first, then we come back, we love it, then we hate it, then we love it.

Yeah, what about the years that we really love?

Then we decide to hate it, and then we decide to love it again.

Yeah, I love this.

I'm excited about this lineup because there is, well, I don't know, jump ahead, but there

is something for me.

The Grand Ole Opry, to be honest, is the only one on Thursday that I know any of those names.

Oh, I can't wait to show you some stuff, man.

That's what I'm excited about.

We talked about it.

Thursday's a great day.

It's discovery day.

You're excited, you've still got some energy.

I got five artists on Thursday, I would say.

Okay, I know, but other than that, the other three days, when we were going over this look,

we were like, wow, there's John Prime.

What?

And then just all kinds of surprises.

If you want my unbridled opinion about my initial thought, first off, they did something

they've never done before, which is break down the lineup in days.

They've never done this before, and I think that there's a reason.

Of course.

Because it allows your eye to change focus from the top two lines.

And I think that if you were to put this in a normal poster, and somebody on Reddit do it.

Somebody's going to do it right now on Reddit or InfoRu.

Somebody take this and make it into a traditional Bonnaroo poster.

And my bet is, I think you get some blowback on it.

I don't think that you get this rush to love it as we rush to love it immediately when we saw it.

It just feels different when it's broken up by day like this.

And I don't think they did it because there are other music festivals that do it this way.

I honestly think that there's a chance that they did it because it doesn't matter what the headliners are.

It matters what the meat of the festival is.

And they're playing to their strength, which is in that midcard.

The midcard is so unbelievably good that it doesn't matter,

and they didn't want to get distracted about what the headliners were or weren't.

And that's why we end up liking it three months from now, because we see the meat of every day.

Boy, the way that it's broken down now makes you so much more excited.

I've got 26. Just on my first pass through, I've got 26 artists that I want to see right now.

I had 18.

18? No kidding.

And you had asked to go through the last two or three years, and they were all around eight or nine.

For me.

Wow! Eight or nine?

Yeah, for me.

Wow. Okay, well last year I got 20, and then in 2017 I had about 15 or 16.

I've got 26 this year.

Yeah, I have 18.

I don't know that I straight up disagree with you on that layout,

because if it were a traditional layout for me, the headliners, to me, are not nearly as important as they used to be.

The middle part is going to be just strong, strong, strong in that traditional layout.

Sure it is. That's exactly right.

Unbelievably strong.

But again... Especially as opposed to last year, which was week, week, week, because I didn't know hardly any of them.

Yeah. Well, but what have we learned over the last few years is people's attention spans can't get past the fourth line.

Well, but the other part, and here we talked a little bit about this earlier,

I think in the marketing they laid it out that way to get that initial push,

and then they would come back a few weeks later and do the lineup.

So they get two hits of energy.

I think what they're going to do is we get this hit today,

and then they're going to come back in whatever the time period is,

and they're going to spotlight all the different things that are going on.

The experiences and the pods and stuff like that.

Which we talked about a lot last year. That's becoming a new thing.

And maybe that includes sets from Brockhampton all of a sudden in pod seven,

or Lonely Island doing something in pod four.

I can see that point, but do you know what you don't see on this lineup?

More soon. More to come.

There's no more are they doing this like, oh, we're going to tease you,

but there's going to be some more announcements.

There's no second round to your people. There's not a second wave.

This is what you got.

And frankly, there's no more like some cafe acts to add that's going to fill out the lineup.

What you got is what you got.

The lone, really the only thing left to add are maybe those experiences in the pods,

because I don't think they're adding in comedians anymore.

I think comedians are done.

Maybe not. Maybe not.

But I think those experiences as we, the more you and I talk to, you know,

the Rebus folks and the Rutan clan, those experiences have become a big part of this festival.

Dude, I mean, I went out there last year.

I know.

It was so fun. You can find something great to do at all hours of the day.

Absolutely.

And they're going to find ways to do that.

Boy, if you give me, how about this? How about this?

If you love Nashville so much, remember they did the Nashville pod last year?

How about this? You give KC Musgraves full reign,

like they did the Cage Elephant guy last year, overdoing an entire pod?

Boy, oh boy. Get out. I'm all in. I'm all in.

Tell me Courtney Barnett's going to do a set out there.

Tell me Courtney Barnett or Jim James with his full band is curating a super jam.

How about that?

Don't you have anything better to do? I wish that someone could hug you.

Must be lonely, being angry, feeling overlooked.

You sit alone at home in the darkness with all the pent up rage that you harness.

I'm real sorry about whatever happened to you.

I wanna walk through the park in the dark, man. I scared the women without the dance.

I wanna walk through the park in the dark, women. I scared the men with the cure, man.

This is a lot for us to take in and we're probably a little bit amped up,

but we're all experiencing this at the exact same time.

You're probably reading the lineup for the first time, so are we.

And here on the What Podcast, we're about to break news exclusive just to the What Podcast.

You being the valued What Podcast listener, you get this news and you get to share it to all your friends

and be the big shot on Reddit and Info-Roo that you want to be.

This is what we have learned. Gambino is your Friday headliner,

which means he is playing first and this is exactly the way that we've been told.

He is your headliner and Phish's set is a late night set, meaning he's gonna go on, I'm guessing,

this is my guess part, somewhere eight around nine o'clock, end at 11, end around 1130,

and Phish is gonna do that classic Friday night, late night set that they did years ago,

but we have been told exclusively to the What Podcast that Childish Gambino is your Friday headliner

and Phish's set is explicitly labeled as a late evening set.

There you go. Now, with that being said, Barry Courter, what is your overall take on this 2019 lineup?

The fullness of it. I felt like from talking to the folks that run this thing a year ago

and over the fall and winter that it was gonna be somewhat of a push back to the way they used to do something.

I think Phish is proof of that. It feels, I don't know, it just feels like a more familiar lineup.

It's more in their lane, maybe? More in their lane, I think.

Because this ain't a governor's ball lineup and this is not Coachella.

Nope. And of course, there's nothing like Hangout, but I see a little bit of where you're coming from.

It's very much, here's where I think, I see some of these names and I know exactly who they see and book these.

Yes. That's my point. That's my point.

I know exactly some of these guys and I know where he saw them and I know when he saw them.

And I know how exactly he probably felt after seeing them.

Well, they're playing Bonnaroo.

This is who I want. I'm excited about it. I like the way it's laid out.

I like there's so many different things on each day.

That's another thing for me. There's always sort of a weekday.

I think we were even talking earlier about, are we going to stay through Sunday?

Yeah, we're staying. I think this looks pretty good.

Alright, so give me a couple of artists straight up.

Don't worry about the headliners.

I'm not.

We try not to get too much into the headliners in the show, but give me your top five that you want to see our first pass through.

First pass. Definitely Courtney Barnett, John Prine, Casey Musgroves.

I wanted Leon Bridges.

You missed him?

I'm going to miss. I'm going to have Hozier.

So I'll get a little bit of that there. A little bit of that soul.

Who's the other ones up there at the top?

I'm going to go see Girl Talk.

Well, that's because for some reason in this room, you're the EDM fan.

I know. The old guy.

Who would have thought?

The old guy likes to bang his head a little bit.

Bang his what?

You're going to hear a lot of this from me over the next, say, 20 weeks.

But there is not an album I loved more last year than Rolling Blackout's Coastal Fever.

That album's amazing.

And if there is a...I always do this.

I've got one artist that I want the whole camp to go to.

Every single person at Camp Nut Butter, you're going with me to Rolling Blackout's Coastal Fever.

That band is phenomenal.

And it is exactly what you guys love.

Old fashioned, just grungy, dirty guitars.

Just nasty.

Bryan Stone will be there.

Barry Courter will be there.

Every one of you will be there because I love that band so much.

So that's my first pass through.

Then I'm going to see Solange.

I don't care what anybody says.

I adore her with all of my heart.

You're going to love Beach House.

It's one of my favorite albums of last year as well.

I got Courtney Barnett.

I mean, every day is slammed.

So you go to Saturday.

I go Kacey Musgraves.

I got Jim James.

I'll give it a try.

I love Maren Morris.

Unknown Mortal Orchestra had a great album.

But I'm going to come back to somebody I've slept on for maybe a decade.

Outside of Jungle last year,

there wasn't a better live show I saw than National.

The National blew me away.

I watched that stupid documentary and everything changed with how I felt about that National live show.

If that show at National was not opening for Post Malone,

I would be shocked, shocked because that thing works at night.

That light show works.

Matt is just unbelievable at night.

I've seen it during the day and I've seen it at night.

It does not work during the day.

And then I go to Sunday and I'm a dork for the Lumineers.

I can't believe I'm saying it.

I can't either.

And I honestly think the shocker of the entire festival,

I think the rabbit out of the hat,

the thing that's going to make everybody's head turn when you go 48, 72 hours from now,

it's Cardi B.

How in the world did they pull out Cardi B?

And secondly, you can't find a more top 40 crossover artist than Cardi B.

It doesn't sound like it would work on paper.

It is going to be a monster.

And I'm telling you, if they try to put that on the witch stage,

they're going to get a disaster on their hands.

Put it on the what? Open, open.

I know it sounds crazy.

It'll be that early.

It'll be Cardi B, Lumineers, Phish, but I would almost switch it.

Cardi B is going to be the biggest show of that festival outside of Phish.

And you know, with an artist like Cardi B,

she's bringing up Pearl, Buddy Chance, the rapper.

Normally at this point we would be talking about,

what I'm excited about is learning about new bands type of thing like we did last year.

Now we're way down the line up for that for me already.

Some of the bands that, you know, that I like Childish Gambino,

I don't know a whole lot about to be honest.

I'm looking forward to seeing that.

Gucci Mane, some of these bands that I would not normally see.

There's a bunch of them.

Well, here's what's crazy about Childish Gambino.

Let's go to him for a second because I don't know many other festivals

that have sort of embraced him like Bonnaroo has.

And almost to a point where like nobody knew it.

Chance the Rapper is definitely Bonnaroo's artist.

Childish Gambino is Bonnaroo's artist and nobody really knows it.

Do you know this will be the third time he's played the farm?

Did you see any of the other two shows?

Do you know when he first showed up in 2012, he was on the witch stage?

Do you know in 2015 he was on the witch stage?

And now he's going to be on the what stage in 2019?

Dude, he's got, they fell in love with him early and as they should have,

but I'm probably like you, I don't really know much about him.

I'm going to do a deep dive on him though because at this point I have to.

I don't have a choice at this point and I know he is going to be the darling of this place.

And if Childish is not joined by Chance the Rapper at some point, I would be shocked.

Shovels and Rope is back, love them.

I just keep going through it.

You want to keep going through some people that are making their returns?

How about Ava Brothers?

You want to know how many times have Ava Brothers have been there?

I know, I've seen them three, right?

As many times as Fish.

This will be the sixth time they've been on the farm.

Let me read you the Ava Brothers history.

2006 they played the true music lounge.

2008 they played the other.

2010 they were at the witch.

2012 and 14 they were on the what?

Which were both great shows.

This is unbelievable to me.

They are the quintessential Bonnaroo band.

They started as a baby just like the Black Keys did.

And Bonnaroo let them grow and wrap their arms around them

and now they're going to feast on the fruits of the labor.

Yeah, exactly.

We've used them as an example of that many times.

Start small, build up.

Saw them here at Moon River, our own festival this past summer.

Great show.

Definitely going to see that one.

KC Musgraves, I'm really excited to see.

Who are the other ones that we were...

Well, I mean, it's the comeback.

It's the returns that are surprising to me.

And the people that have made several appearances at Bonnaroo

and that are coming back again.

Well, as people have pointed out on this podcast,

you and I keep thinking everyone's like us.

We've been for 14 straight years.

There's a lot of people.

What did they tell us?

40% our first time?

That's right.

I think it was around that.

You know, the Lumineers making their second appearance,

only second time.

First time in five years, six years.

2013 was the last time they were here.

And they played the witch.

Now they're probably going to be on the what?

National making a return appearance.

Who on here has been there within the last couple years?

What do you mean a couple years?

What do you want to say?

Like last two or three?

To make a finer point on what we were just saying,

the 40%, this is an all new lineup for a huge percentage

of the folks that are going to be there.

And yet feel so familiar.

Exactly.

Exactly.

This feels like...

Boy, that's why you write for a paper, isn't it?

You drill down and drill down until you find the story, don't you?

Get the big money for that kind of big brain.

All right, so let's go a little further here.

You know, you go...

You don't want to say it because it's so diverse.

There's so much going from left to right on the musical scale.

But boy, there is a lot of hip hop here.

From Childish Gambino to Post Malone, Juice WRLD is on this lineup.

Juice WRLD.

Juice WRLD had a number one single at Top 40 Radio, man.

Cardi B, Mack DeMarco.

There are a ton of hip hop artists.

There are a ton of Americana artists.

Shovels and Rope, if you want to put Brandi Carlile there.

There's a ton of country crossover.

There's a ton of Top 40 crossover.

There's a ton of rock crossover and alt crossover.

I think what we're going to keep saying for the next 20 weeks is

this has AC Entertainment stamped all over it.

Absolutely.

There is not one thread that ties all of it together.

It is as diverse and as wide of a palette as they've probably had in four years.

Absolutely.

And I still think the experiences are going to complement the entire lineup.

I think those have just become such a big part of this festival.

And I keep looking at the Camp Nut Butter on the poster.

I'm tickled to death.

You've gotten a chance to absorb the lineup by now.

You are listening to this podcast.

By the way, if we could stop for a second, we really appreciate you joining us for season two of the What Podcasts,

a podcast by Bonnarooians.

For Bonnarooians, we didn't do this at all.

We didn't do this at all in season one.

By the way, I'm talking about this as if we're Seinfeld.

As if we've got some sort of TV show.

But anyway, the first round of these things, we didn't talk about rating and liking or reviewing the podcast.

Turns out in this world, that's sort of important.

And we didn't spend any time talking about it.

Turns out social media is pretty important, too.

We didn't talk about that either.

No, we haven't done any of that.

Here's what I was thinking.

The Bonnaroo people have been very, very nice to us to give us another pair of tickets to give away for the festival this year.

With a camping pass.

So this is what I was thinking.

Even if you already have rated and reviewed the podcast, could you do that now?

If you do, you will qualify for tickets.

What about that?

If you have ever rated or reviewed the podcast, you are qualified for tickets.

How about that?

Can I do that?

Can I find the people to do it?

I don't know.

We have Dr. Tech Guy.

How about this?

Let's make it easier.

Just go ahead and rate and review it and send us a comment and we'll enter you for tickets.

How about that?

Is that all right?

Like, subscribe, whatever.

Do all that stuff.

What I like to say is like, share, and always love.

I don't know if I created that.

And honestly, what you were saying, this was a whim a year ago.

I think we're coming up on a year.

It's been a lot of fun.

And we're tickled to death at how much people seem to enjoy it.

And again, like you said, thanks to the Bonnaroo people for being so helpful with everything.

I've got a list of artists that I put down that I absolutely wanted to see at Bonnaroo.

So I came up with my one, two, twelve.

I had a list of twelve, and I didn't put any big names on there that were totally ridiculous,

that were not going to happen, like, I don't know, The Rolling Stones or Paul McCartney.

I wasn't going to roll the dice like that.

I put together a list of twelve artists that I thought were mid-card stuff that I knew, knew, knew I wanted to see.

Let's see how close I got of my wish list as compared to your wish list.

So who's on your wish list, and who did you get, who did you not get?

I went opposite of you.

Still at the top of my list was Dolly Parton.

Me too. I got Dolly. Didn't get her.

Back.

Oh, nice. I had Back too.

Nice.

Yeah, all right. Didn't get him.

I had Tedeschi Trucks, which I'm not really sure why I put, because they're going to be here in town pretty soon.

And they do shows, you know, theaters a lot, so I don't know that they're doing festivals like that.

Casey Musgrove is next.

You keep calling her Casey Musgroves.

Musgraves, yeah.

I was calling her Carrie, because there's a Carrie Musgroves somewhere in the world.

Just get the name right.

Corey Musgroves.

Corey, Casey, her cousin.

Her cousin is a great singer-songwriter.

Janelle Monahe, Leon Bridges, Avis, Brandi Carlile, Courtney Barnett, and then I had Warren Haines.

That would be Katie Barnett, I hate to tell you.

And Florence in the Machine.

By the way, Florence in the Machine, big miss. Big miss.

You know, I tried to combine the things that we had heard from some of the rumors or some of the things that, you know,

the Reddits and the InfraRooze added to what they perceived the lineup to be based on like tours and stuff like that.

Boy, Florence in the Machine, way up there, didn't get it.

Yeah, like Janelle.

Boy, man, what a heartbreaker.

That is a heartbreaker.

Do you know, and I'm not even going to tell you the bad news about Janelle Monahe,

because there is not somebody I love more on this planet than Janelle Monahe.

That show was phenomenal on the white stage, and nobody saw it.

Nobody was there for it.

Oh, Lord, what year was that? 2014.

My screensaver at work is the picture I took of that show.

Only artists I got of the 12 that I put down of my wish list.

Rolling blackouts.

I missed on James Blake.

I missed on Robin, which, oh, God, man, if Robin had been there, it would have been just a big, fun dance party.

I missed Amen Dunes, which is my favorite album of the year.

I missed on Boy Genius and the love of my life, Julian Baker.

I missed on Super Organism.

I missed on Rex Orange County, which, dude, where is Rex Orange County on any festival lineup in the country?

How is this kid not getting on every festival lineup?

He is going to be a mega superstar.

I can't believe some of these guys are not on it.

Now that you put it that way, it sounds like a terrible lineup.

Thanks, buddy. I appreciate it.

You missed on all your...

Everyone. But no, I'm really, really happy about it.

And if I could find one that the most surprised about, other than Cardi B,

I can't believe I'm saying these words, because he has been a thing for me

and practically everybody around me, Little Dicky.

Little Dicky is going to be there.

And if we're going to get, we're going to deep dive into all these artists probably within the next 20 weeks.

But Little Dicky is ridiculous.

And that damn Pillow Talk song is the funniest thing you will ever watch.

And I challenge you, Barry Courter, to take, to go home.

And I know your wife will not enjoy Little Dicky.

I know she will not have any interest in him, but she will.

Well, she likes you.

But the artist, Little Dicky, I can't imagine her not losing her mind over Pillow Talk.

It is so funny. It's so funny. I even played it for my mother.

All right. I know what I'm doing tonight. I have homework.

What's going on in your brain right now?

Can you just get back to the issue here?

Really?

Can you just remind the brain?

You're such an idiot. We're talking about God and if he exists.

Don't call brain names.

The brain couldn't recall.

Boy, another huge mess other than Florence Machine.

Foo Fighters.

Boy, this is something that you just can't do.

When you get in the speculation game, you're just bound to get your heart broken.

It's sort of like dating.

When you start to date somebody, and you've been out of the game for a long time, Barry, I get it.

But when you start to date somebody, you start to fill in the blanks of what their life is.

Why are you texting me back? Why hasn't she said anything to me?

You start filling them like what she's doing with her life.

Or she must be with some other guy. She must be doing something else.

That's sort of like speculating on Bonnaroo.

Well, the Foo Fighters are doing a European date the day before.

They could get to Bonnaroo, so it's possible that they could come see me.

Could they?

But I think they couldn't.

And they're not coming. Why do they hate me?

Why won't they call?

Another Foo Fighters year that doesn't happen.

What are some of the other big ones that everybody was speculating?

Of course, the stone thing didn't happen. Nobody expected that.

I think Foo Fighters were probably the biggest one that's not on there.

McCartney seems as though he dilly-dallied around for a long time.

Do you think that Kid C Ghost was a possibility with Kanye and Kid Cudi?

Do you think they'd have dabbled in that pool again?

Because he canceled Coachella.

Do you think there's a possibility he could have came to Bonnaroo for a third time?

I don't know. I don't know if it's worth it for them or him.

Anybody else that were missing?

That was a big suggestion on Reddit or InfoRoo?

No. Rihanna was never happening. Rihanna was never happening.

That was a late prediction.

I would put $100 down right now with you, Barry, and say that Miley Cyrus would play Bonnaroo before Rihanna.

Thinking about that, we kept saying dally-dally-dally, and we keep talking about Nashville-Nashville.

Has there been a big country...?

Kenny Rogers. I think you've got a ton of country on here this year.

Brandi Carlisle, Marin Morris...

That McCartney level, Dolly level...

Zach Brown, which is, by the way, if you look at some of these old lineups, he was the last person on the lineup in 2008.

No, they do not. You're right about this. When you think about it, before their stars, they do not book a big-time country artist ever.

Maybe it's because of the CMA thing that was happening that week.

It's also not their lane.

No, it's not. John Prine this year, maybe not that... I don't know.

I mean, it's not like they're calling Garth Brooks. He ain't going to work.

No, no. But you know what I mean.

You think another miss would be like a Justin Timberlake?

Yeah, I don't know why he hasn't been.

So can't do it. They just do not do it. I don't know. He's from right down the road in Franklin.

Yeah, and he has his own festival, right?

He's his own festival, yeah. He's a tad busy with those, yeah.

He's got his own gigs.

Who do you want us to spend some time on this year?

What does your lineup look like when you take a first pass through?

Who are your top 10? Who are your top 15?

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What should we do before we go?

Do we have anything else that we need to get into before we say goodbye

on the opening salvo of Bonnaroo 2019 season?

This is an amazing feeling.

This is the best feeling in the world, by the way.

When this thing comes through and you get to look through it,

it's the best feeling in the world.

Do we want to maybe give people a little bit of an idea

of what the season's going to look like for the podcast?

Sure, go ahead and tell me what the season's going to look like, Barry.

I don't know. I was hoping you'd.

No, you've got a schedule. We are going to keep doing it.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're going to do...

I did do that, didn't I?

Probably not every week until it gets a little bit closer, right?

But we want to have definitely some guest artists on.

We want to have some campers on like we've done before.

Absolutely, yeah.

I mean, to be honest, I learned so much having some of those guys on from Rue Tang.

There were some of my best moments is talking to just Bonnarooians

who get to share the experience, who get to talk the experience with us.

It's phenomenal. It's so much fun to talk to them.

When we originally started this, the idea was to look down into that lineup

of a bunch of people we didn't know.

And what we've discovered is that Bonnaroo is way more than a list of fans.

It's that whole experience of camping and all of that.

And we are not alone.

Yeah, and I'll tell you...

That's the thing we've learned.

I tell you now, I go through this over and over and over.

I just keep looking through it over and I keep finding a new thing.

I can't wait to find out who in the hell Donna Massal is.

Who is Donna Massal?

I can't wait to find out who that is.

Because I have a feeling that somebody saw her in a bar,

thought she was phenomenal, and said,

you know what, come on, play Bonnaroo with us.

Donna Massal on Thursday.

You're my new target.

I want to know everything about you.

Because if you've been chosen for this Bonnaroo lineup, you mean something.

And I'm going to spend a lot more attention.

By the way, that is one thing about Bonnaroo

that has it over Coachella, over Lollapalooza,

over Chachinese, Firefly.

There's a lot of filler stuff.

They just throw some stuff in.

Yeah, I could watch this for a while.

The Bonnaroo girls that pick this up, and they look at this...

No, I'm going to find out who Donna Massal is.

And I'm going to make her my favorite artist for probably the next six weeks.

I think that's a great point that we've learned is,

like a Donna Massal, like you talked about with the Avett brothers...

How about Ducky?

To tie that in with the Avett brothers' conversation from earlier,

Donna Massal might be that What Star...

Maybe, one day.

And you get the feeling you want to go see those shows,

like we did last year with Davey.

The 1230 show on what, a Friday afternoon?

It was so hot.

But it was so good, and they were so happy to be there.

That's exactly right.

And now that's a favorite.

Warren Treedy, a show we kind of stumbled across.

And now an all-time favorite.

I will travel across the country for those guys.

Repeat, repeat. Those guys have become friends of ours.

We didn't know who they were before last year.

I actually told them, by the way, we went to dinner with them the other night, right?

And I told them, I was like, you know, I got a confession to make to you guys.

By the way, repeat, repeat, from Nashville.

I love them. You should love them.

They are just the best of this industry.

They're the best version of what this industry has to offer.

Absolutely.

I told them, I was like, I got to be honest with you.

I know we talked to you at Bonnaroo that time, the first night.

I had never listened to anything you'd ever did.

I'm like, oh man, don't worry about it. It's fine.

I felt so bad about it.

I finally got to come clean.

They came to our camp.

That's how nice they are.

They kept coming back, kept bringing us gifts every time.

I never listened to anything you did.

Now I love them to death. Now I'll walk across the planet for them.

Exactly. They're not only friends.

We went and saw them perform here.

They're great.

This was a back to form.

This is a back to form for Bonnaroo.

It feels like we're back home.

This couldn't feel better of a lineup.

I'm not struggling to find things that I really, really want to see.

I don't feel like the things that I really want to see are going to be overcrowded and killed because that's all they got in the top 15.

This is a really, really diverse, full, thick lineup.

I'm really, really happy with this.

Yeah, me too.

I guess I'll see you soon.

Cool.

Is that it? Is that how we're ending it?

Bye bye.