This week on The What Podcast, now on the Consequence Podcast Network, Brad and Barry visit with Cole, Dawson and Luke of Almost Monday, who talk about how surfing brought the band together, the music scene in San Diego and how Eddie Vedder is influencing young musicians there in a huge way.
Consequence Podcast Network. Some bands just need a shot, a shot at standing on a stage at a festival in front of thousands and thousands of people. It all started on the Cafe stage at Bonnaroo for the Black Keys. Who will be next? Festival first timers from San Diego, California, almost Monday. Our guest today on the What Podcast, which bands this year that matter, it starts right now. You're always trying to do your best. If you're new to the show, welcome. If we've known you forever, welcome back. It's the What Podcast, which bands this year that matter from two and a half parts of the country. I'm Brad Steiner, Barry Courter, Lord Taco on your TV screen, moving picture box and in your earbuds. Welcome back, gentlemen. How are you? Look at the tan. Barry Courter, look at that warm glow. It's lighting. Everything is light. You know, we get hooked up with Consequence and Barry, the first thing he does is install a tanning bed. Hair and makeup, hair and makeup. Speaking of that's a good looking dude you got working right there. Yeah, you happy with it? That might be the best. I haven't been happy about some of the previous ones that you liked a lot, but that one's pretty good. You're rating my haircuts now. That's what you're doing today. And only today. Well, the thing is, is that moving to a new city, by the way, if you don't know, I'm in New Orleans, Barry Courters in Chattanooga and Lord Taco is an undisclosed location in his Volkswagen bus. I moved to New Orleans after being in Chattanooga for 20 some odd years and I had the same girl all the time and she knew exactly what my head of hair needed to do. Moving to a new city. This was the hardest thing that I've had to do finding friends. That's easy. You know, finding your local bar, finding a dentist, a hair guy, the hardest move you can make. I think the most excited I've ever seen you, you were about to drive from here to Nashville. Was it? I did. Yes, I did drive from Chattanooga Nashville one time to get a hair cut. How much money? We never, you never did disclose. We don't want to talk about that, but her name is Chainsaw Betty. So when you look up, is it chainsaw on the pantheon of people that cut hair right at the top, chainsaw Betty, which by the way, if you're in Nashville and you need a quick cut to go to her, the reason why I like her is, and I didn't know this until like sat down yellow wolf owns the place. And so when she sat me down and she goes, so how'd you find out about us? Are you a fan of Wolfie? Who in the hell is Wolfie? What am I supposed to know about? And so she had to say, Oh, it's yellow wolf. I'm like, you know what? If yellow wolf was cutting my hair, I don't think I'd be able to pick them out of a lineup. I have no idea who yellow wolf is. And you know, I'm very fond of my own hair. I'm very fond of my own hair, but I cut my own for like 20 years. And my, my feeling was it'll be fine by Monday. It'll all agree right back by Monday. And typically it is. So we're on different universes in this regard. You know, it's really, you can't even imagine, can you? I'm feeling a tad ill. I don't necessarily feel comfortable with this. It doesn't compute. The math doesn't add up. You cut your own hair. Yep. I mean, I know we love Bonnaroo and camping, but you're taking this lifestyle way too far. Barry, how is it? How is it that you got into Bonnaroo and got into camping and got more glammed out? How is it? You became a big, let it go, man. Going blonde was the best thing I ever did. That's what you call blonde. I think the eyes are next, Barry. I think the eyes are next. I know, right? I'm really excited. So in, in, how do we get on? Well, you know, we start talking about my hair and I just won't be able to stop. If you listened to some previous episodes, you know that now we're part of the consequent podcast networks. You've heard us talk to deaf tones, which looking back on it, I want to do a whole episode of just us talking about talking to deaf tones. Wasn't that fun? Let me be honest with you, it's, it's petrifying. Oh, because they're, yeah. See that. Yeah. Cause it mattered to me. Yeah. That's in that. We all have those. I didn't realize you were that big a fan. Well, it's one of these things that like, there are certain things that I'm not necessarily comfortable about talking about. One of them is playing golf. And then there are other like bands that I just don't know how I'm supposed to communicate what I like. Like for instance, you know, something about me that not many people know. I love the band. Yeah. Hootie. Hootie. Yes. And I followed them around the country when I was 19. Yeah. So when I started to try and tell people that the bands that I listened to when I was a kid with Hooting the Blowfish, Neutral Mo'Cotel, Deaf Tones, they look at me like I'm insane. So I just prefer not to talk about it. So okay. My moment was Brian Wilson. Absolutely. I couldn't speak. I knew, and he doesn't. Thought you were going to say Linda Ronstadt. I'll be honest. He doesn't do, Brian doesn't do interviews. It was one of those. I mean, I didn't know we were going here, but my brother Bob is a huge Beach Boy fan. He's turned more people onto the real Beach Boys than probably the real Beach Boys. We're not talking about surf stuff. We're not talking about Mike Love stuff. We're talking Brian Wilson. What is real Beach Boys stuff? Brian Wilson stuff. Surf stuff. Okay. So why don't you just say that it's Brian Wilson stuff. Okay. Yeah. Well, nobody likes Mike Love. So I'm not going to say that. Mike Love. So, and this will come up later. It's so funny, by the way, taco, a little short story. One day I texted Barron. It's like, I've got an interview with a Beach Boy tomorrow. And he said, if it's Mike Love, I don't care. Yeah. I can promise you. So it was Mike Love. So Brian Wilson is coming to Chattanooga and you know, I, like I always do put in a request, I get this phone call saying, Hey, he'll talk to you in like two days. You have to understand my family. My brothers are such fans that I knew I could not have this conversation without reaching it out to them first. So I sent all three of them the same text. I have an interview with Brian Wilson. What should I ask? Because I knew if I waited until after I would have gotten a litany, you know, why didn't you do bub, bub, bub, bub, and, um, all three of them took forever to respond. The only answer I got back was why is Mike Love such a dick? You know, it was a, um, it's a fair question, but you know, the guy, he, I think he gets a bad rap. He was a, I think that being a multi billionaire, you soften up a little bit. He was very nice to me. I had no problem with him whatsoever. No, he was nice to me. I've interviewed him. In fact, my daughter, who you've met, she answered the phone when he called her. He dated. Nice. She answered the phone when he called her. So I mean, no, he, it was just, uh, you have to be a beach boy fan to understand. And I don't feel bad saying what I just said, but cause that's what they said. But uh, that was the one I knew if I didn't, I was going to go completely Chris Farley. You were in the beach boys. What does, what does, what does going Chris Farley mean to you? I was going to go, I was going to go Chris Farley, Paul McCartney. So you were in the beach. I get the reference now. What was that like? Yeah. What was that like? That's what, that's exactly what I was going to do. I got, especially if you've seen him interviewed. Anyway, that was mine. Um, he, that was, uh, I had a good two years, man. I got to interview Steve Martin, Martin short, Graham Nash and Brian Wilson all within like a little bit, all people that would have been on my, on my list, never thought would happen. So I understand. I get it. Well, I, I don't where we went a hundred thousand miles. I know, but I don't want to get, I don't want to get too out and ahead of ourselves, but we might have one on my list coming up later on the season. Um, I don't want to give anything away. Might be a box checked for old Brad guy coming up soon. I hope so. So we love this episode. If you're just now trying to figure out what the hell we're doing, this is essentially a show that celebrates music festivals, music festival culture inside baseball, chitter chatter. What we like about this episode specifically, we do it each and every year for Bonnaroo. The lineup is just packed full of artists that we don't know that we've never heard of, especially when it gets into those, you know, eye doctor lines at the bottom. So what we decided to do when you're just like, start talking to some bands, so we don't know and try and figure out who they're, who they are, what they're about. And essentially it became Bonnaroo first timers. So first time artists that have never played Bonnaroo. And frankly, some of these people that we've talked to in the past have never played festivals before. It was so weird. Two years ago we did two Bonnaroo first timer episodes and both bands ended up not playing the festival. So we talked to them before not playing a festival and they still haven't played a festival. You just don't know how this is going to go. It's one of my favorite things. I love it. I mean, it's the reason why we started the thing, the show to begin with was to talk to and talk about bands that we had no, we didn't know anything about because frankly, the first time, first year we did this show, the Bonnaroo lineup was not very good. And so we had to spend weeks and months figuring out who the hell half of these people were. It's not like the, the days of today where every festival lineup is incredible. You know, it was a struggle in 2016, man. It was a great idea. And, uh, and now a lot of those bands are favorites. Repeat repeat. I mean, I don't, that wasn't that year was it? No, that was, that was a, uh, that was a Bonnaroo led episode. That was led into that whole sort of discovery thing. And I think, I think that's where we landed. That's what we love about these festivals. Yeah. Is the discovery part. So today part one, I think that we'll have two parts for Bonnaroo first timers, but today we've got almost Monday, almost Monday is really great though. Almost Monday, they're starting to pop a little bit on the alternative charts and me being a guy that runs an alternative station. I'm very familiar with the kids of almost Monday from San Diego, California, which turns out a lot richer of a musical city than you would anticipate. I talking to switch foot a few months ago, I looked at him and I was like, you know, there's literally no one from San Diego, one of the great cities in the country that we all think of as paradise, not really the biggest musical pedigree. And then they said, Oh, sir, no, no, no, no. We enlisted the dozens of people from, from San Diego that I had no idea about. What do you guys know? Have you listened to anything? What do you know about the kids of almost Monday? Who legitimately might be dating your daughter, Barry? Wow. You, you, that hurt that, that hit me right between the eyes. Yeah, let me be honest with you. Russ's Russ's bus is older than these kids. My bus is older than me. I was, I was literally on the train with you until right then. I don't know that I've ever been speechless. No, I like them. I like them a lot. And what I love and you set it up just right. This is in my mind. This is why what we do is so much fun is the discovery. There's just, there's no way around it. We, I love from the first day I ever set foot on that farm. I mean, that was 20 years into my whatever career you want to call it already. Everything felt stale, whatever. And just this discovery. Wow. There's all these great bands and all these things I've never heard of. Some of them were going to go on to do great things. I'm not, but whatever. That was the fun part. So by the way, you know, boundary first timers is how we found war and treaty. But when you, when you, when you get a assignment or if you get an artist that calls you and says, Hey, I wanted to interview with the paper. How many times do you say no or just ignore it? Yeah. 90%. Yeah. See, that's the problem. And, and I think that I, a couple of years ago, I'll tell you a terrible story. And I'm going to get you a little guessing game here. I worked at a top 40 radio station in Chattanooga and there was a really, really young kid. Uh, who was on a major label and they said, are we going to bring this kid by if you want to meet him and do like a small thing at the station, you know, he's got this sort of mediocre hit. Would you like to at least have him there? Have some pizza, have a winner to combine. He'll play in your break room. Well, my guy at the time, my music director said, no, thanks. No, thanks. We are too busy. Way too busy. Way too busy in Chattanooga, Tennessee doing radio. Guess who that bright little kid was. I, I, I mean, I could go Bieber. Justin Bieber. What? I guess, right. It was Justin Bieber. We said no to having Justin Bieber walk into the building. Why? Because we just happened to be a tad too busy that day telling fart jokes on the radio. He was going to bring pizza. And he was bringing Papa John's. We should have said yes, just for the Papa, to be honest with you there, that garlic dip, but we said no to it. And it said to me at that moment, just stop saying no. Stop saying no. Just don't, you don't know who you're going to get when you can get them. So if you can get literally at this point, there's going to be a point in our life where nobody will talk to us. I mean, if you remember, if you remember our conversation with Kristen and Jared, repeat, repeat it at camp nut butter who now do our theme song, which is awesome. The whole topic of the show was they always say yes. If you need us to play this gig, if you need us to go to the radio show, whatever. So if Bieber and his people were, you know, if they're knocking at the door, I'm probably going to say yes. If they're just randomly, oh my God, that was a huge part of it. That was the thing. They were all. Yes. Everything is. Yes. I have been saying this for the better part of like three years to anybody that I meet whenever they're like, Hey, do you want to go? I was like, I say no to nothing. I say no to nothing. Oh my God, I got that from Jared. It hit me in the ass the other day. So I walk. So me and my buddy went to the Pelicans game. Excuse me. We go to the Pelicans game and we come back and we just happened to be passing a guy's house that he knows. And so we're like, Oh, we'll call him. We'll just run up to his apartment. We get to his apartment. It's like 11 o'clock. It's after the game. And he meets me for the first time. He says, Oh, nice to meet you. It's so great to meet you. I'm like, Hey, Brad, it's like, you want to drink? You want to like, I say yes to everything. I say no to nothing. So he walks through his bedroom, comes back out with a vial of LSD and says, say no to nothing. I looked at it. It's like, it's Tuesday. Who's doing this on a Tuesday? All right. We might need to amend some rules in this thing. I'm going to let you clean this up, but whatever. No, by the way, I'm just clarifying that. I said, no, it was Tuesday. I don't know about the rest of the days, but I said no, cause it was Tuesday. All right. So first up, Dawson Cole and Luke from almost Monday. Oh my goodness. Look at those guys. What's going on? Hello fellas. What's going on gentlemen? Nothing much. We just did this, this like live stream in our garage and that's nice to not be in there. It gets super hot. So enjoying the outside now. Oh yeah. The, the, the bright shining San Diego sun looks terrible. That looks awful. Huh? Yeah. What are you guys based out of? Well we are in, we say this pretty regularly. We're in two and a half parts of the country. I'm in New Orleans, Barry Courter is back home where I'm from Chattanooga, Tennessee. And then our buddy Lord taco, Russ is in an undisclosed location and his 77 was folio. So we don't, we don't really know where he is, but that's where us two are at least. He could be anywhere. Russ could be anywhere literally. That's the idea. In fact, in fact, he might be pulling up any minute guys. So, uh, we got the lookout. Yeah. You got, you got driveway I can crash in. Yeah. Yeah. So the first thing that I'm going to, I'm going to bring up is, is, uh, Barry was really complimentary about his own hair today. Barry, you a little jealous yet? You a little jealous? I told you the kid had good hair. This is a good show. This is a hair show. Barry's got good hair. Look at this. We're getting killed here. Barry, you're killing it, man. And I, I'm just saying that it looks great. Thank you. Yeah. We should, we need to exchange, uh, tips and, uh, haircare tips here. I know Brad probably has a whole regimen that he can share with us. So guys, guys, guys, dad cuts his own hair. That's all we need to say. Some of us are blessed. Yeah. I'm, I'm just so, I'm so excited to talk to you guys because, um, you guys sort of like found your way at least into my hemisphere so quickly and, um, so abruptly, uh, and it's not like that for a lot of people, you know, not everybody, you know, programs, uh, radio stations. So for those who don't know almost Monday, give us the A, B's and C's who, who, who are you guys and, and tell me what you're about. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for having us guys. We really appreciate it. Or, uh, yeah, almost Monday, three, three, three friends. We all kind of grew up together. Um, uh, all grew up in San Diego. Luke and I started playing music together really, really young. And then I met Cole surfing when, um, I was around like 15 and we met literally like out in the water and I came back to his house after we surfed and like met his dad and his dad's like, well, Cole plays guitar. And I was at the time, uh, like doing that show, the boys. So I was telling him about that. And then Gary kind of, Cole's dad was like, you guys should, you know, link up and maybe try to do something. And then we, uh, kind of started the band from there. But, uh, yeah, that's sort of where our roots lie. And we, in the early days we were just playing a ton of, uh, like just shows, booking them ourselves, like playing everywhere in San Diego, like the Casbah a thousand times, throwing shows, uh, you know, at UNIF, the surf shop, our buddy surf shop. And uh, you know, ended up going to college all in San Diego and sticking together and you know, really giving it a full shot. Cause it's sort of a coal coal at any point. Did you say dad, do we have to do this again? He's my friend. Everybody I bring over, you gotta talk about playing guitar. My friend. What, what was the music that, uh, what was the music then that, that sort of you bonded with? Um, I feel like at the time when we started the band, we were like, we didn't really record music. We were kind of just loved playing it live. So we just like, we are a true garage band. We just kind of like played music together and like, you know, made up some stuff every once in a while. I tried to write songs at the early stages, but a lot of just like kind of serve rock music and kind of stuff that a lot of bands are applying around here locally. It's kind of like where we started, I think. Yeah. We're listening to a lot of different, when I met you, you were listening to like a lot of like classic rock. Um, I don't know. Okay. I gotta, I gotta ask cause I'm dad, granddad, whatever. What, what, what is classic rock to you? Cause I can, yeah, Brad's already loaded. I can see Brad loading up here. Yeah. Yeah. I mean guys, if you say fog hat, he's going to have to cut himself off. He's going to have to leave. Yeah. I'm betting it's not Aerosmith. Let's go ahead. Yeah. I mean, like, like Zeppelin, like, uh, I don't know, psychedelic first. Yeah. Psychedelic first. My man. Nice. Nice. Yeah. There's no wrong answer. It's just, we're going to make fun of it. No matter what. I'm gonna go with classic rock. Blink, semi-sonic, whatever. Well I find it to be so interesting that, um, uh, you know, I've talked, I talk to switch foot about the same exact topic of, of bands that are from San Diego. I mean, it's not like San Diego has the richest music history, right? Uh, so yeah. And I said this to them and this is not an insult people in San Diego just have better shit to do. You know? I mean, like you literally, what the heck? What the heck? That's why it's like sports teams shows. It's hard to get people places because they could go do six other things That's right our pod enough though, man. We're finally have a team. We're itself Yeah, well, I know they're doing well I I just like what you just said is the point well, we could be playing music, but we were surfing so We've got other things to in San Diego's but when you look at the like that the pantheon of San Diego music it's actually Better than you think and that's what they reminded me of I mean aside from RuPaul mind you RuPaul Eddie veterans from the Tom weights is from San Diego blink when a to of course STP and then my favorite Austrian death machine whoa Austrian death machine You just pulled that out of your ear in I'm serious it nice good for you Any any better is like from SDA like I went to my high school. So I mean no kidding Wow Conserve this but you're right. Yeah, shout out Eddie better. He gave us like the best music program at her school nice Wait a second. Hang on a second. So what just just real quick? What what school is it and what what is the music program? The school is San Diego Academy. It's kind of it's like the local public school here in like North County and Sanitas area and he just like paid for this huge building that has like tons of music programs from like like MIDI engineering and like music theory Force there like full like wow as band and stuff. I did that fool. I mean this is at 16 17 years old, right? The building's fairly new. It's probably like I know like seven years old or so like six years old Do you think that you gained a lot from that program or do you think it's you know, just too it was too new to to to quit they had like Instruments and stuff to there that you could just use and yeah took a little kitty Super nice. Oh my god Is there is there enough is there anybody else that has been in that program that is in sort of a band now? That that you know, let's switch for guys. Oh, yeah, they're like 60. Yeah, that's me. Oh I mean I find this to be really fascinating because because first of all, I didn't know existed secondly you know if if you can like put a direct connection to You know Eddie Vedder and that music Academy. I'm just letting you know. I mean, I'm not your manager but opening slot That's really cool and for somebody like him to do that that's that's amazing. Yeah, I'm still sitting here I'm a huge Tom Waits fan. I had no idea he was from there. I mean This this all started, you know for you guys relatively quickly and Not that long ago, right? Yeah yeah, we're just we wanted to keep the band going after high school because we just really loved it and So Cole went to UC San Diego and Luke and I went to Point Loma Nazarene so we were still like actively doing the band while in college and Yeah kept going with it and then got signed we were playing this show in Santa Monica It was like one of the sketchiest shows of all time like the No that you would want an A&R guy who's interested in your band to come to like the mix There was no mixer like somebody had to bring in this tiny little mixing board and it was in this like airplane hanger with like huge walls and it sounded awful but um Like just the room and everything and we're like in the A&R guy come to a different show and he ended up Who is the A&R guy? Do you remember? What's his name? Yeah. Yeah, Mike Daley. He's Yeah, it was I mean from there on we were sort of like, okay Like let's give this a real shot if you know people are interested in helping us and yeah See Brad I reminded you earlier One of the lessons we learned from our friends repeat repeat when they came to camp nut butter was always be ready You never know who's gonna be in that audience, you know, you gotta go hard You gotta go strong and you gotta be out of you what I'm learning from this. I need to learn surfing. I Need to go surfing work. Okay, but this is really interesting. So so you you this thing happens all relatively quickly You don't and correct me if I'm wrong I might be totally wrong about this, but you have a lot of shows under your belt and with the experience you have already you're gonna turn that into a festival show and to double back on all of that What does do you have any other festivals as in Bonnaroo ready? To go. Are you gonna be on any other festivals and how's that all gonna work for you? Yeah, I feel the ones that were playing like aren't announced yet So I don't really know how much we can kind of say they've been kind of announced But yeah, we're gonna be playing some festivals this year, which is really Yeah Nobody listens we're touring with a band called AJR Friends actually in fact long story short not to interrupt but AJR They played my courtyard in Chattanooga, Tennessee is their first ever radio show and then came back late If it played a thing called the running of the Chihuahuas ask Adam one day about Playing a Chihuahua show and see what he says. Yeah, and just to be clear Brett when he says courtyard It's about as big as the space you're sitting in right now. That's right. Yeah, that's right. So pretty cool. Yeah, they're great Yeah, so we were on tour with AJR we're opening for them and then Obviously as we all know the pandemic happens and those shows were crazy Like we got you know direct support which was huge for us like their audience and their fan base is crazy So we played the first three shows of that tour and then it was picking back up in like April so to be able to come back this year and like have some festivals and like Figuring out what you know touring is gonna be like in the fall is I mean like like I like we were saying earlier Like it's kind of the reason we started a band was to play live and it's kind of The main reason we love doing it. So it'll be nice to get back out on stage Well with that being said when you look at the the fact as a you know, is this my kids loving music? What were the festivals you were going to in San Diego? I'm guessing did you did you go to Coachella at all? There's a festival in San Diego called Cabo that we went to like I think like every almost every hero is open So okay, but but have you ever heard of Bonnaroo? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. All right All right. So what from from the West Coast from San Diego? What is your impression of Bonnaroo? It seems kind of like one of the like kind of like Lollapalooza but for that area of the country I guess feels like one in my head the way I've always seen it is like it feels like one of the big three like being Coachella Bonnaroo and Lollapalooza and there's other huge ones too, but in my head when I think of like an American like, you know music festival. I feel like Bonnaroo is up there in terms of like iconicness Let me ask it this way cuz cuz this is kind of what we sort of do but Brad and I and Russ are fans I don't know first whatever but we also like talking about the industry. So from your point of view What what do you picture this next season? If you if you will is gonna be like for you guys personally and then professionally What do you do you separate the two or can you? Yeah, what I mean or what what the are you the type that sit and have like lists? So here's what I hope to do or you just like man. Let's go see what happens Yeah, I think I'm mixed about it's kind of hard to plan especially if we've learned just You know, there's one one plan and then it completely gets changed to another plan and so it's kind of like, you know, you work really hard for everything and but hold everything loosely because you just you don't know until you're on stage or you know in the car go into wherever you know, so Yeah, I think It's just crazy to think like it seems almost like a different life last year when we were playing shows It's like it felt like a weird like fever dream of like Amazing going around all these little different places and people and it's like well like we're gonna do that again But like at like that was like a two and we're about to go do it Yeah So I mean Look, I think that you guys got a now that I you said it you got a really good lesson going on a few shows with AJR I mean, they've got a they've got a festival like setup with that crowd that crowd is insane I mean it might be because he's always in his underwear, but they're always insane for some reason Yeah, yeah. No, I feel like those shows were like really good prep. I feel cuz like We played Aragon Ballroom in Chicago like filled out which was crazy and then like that venue in DC The anthem and that place is I don't know if you guys have been there yet But it's I think it's a pretty new venue, but it was packed with people It's a pretty new venue, but it was packed out. We're like, holy shit, man. This is huge. There's a lot of people here That's that's kind of a racking, huh? We've had guests on before AJR I think and I know Paul Janoway was saying Paul It's like when they when you do these types of things It sort of becomes we can actually do this. Yeah, this this is real, you know, this Yeah, be a way we can make a living Yeah, I cut it. It's weird. I actually sort of Get way more nervous for the little club shows or even like smaller shows when you like like I remember we opened for Foster the people at the soda bar Which is a really small venue and the people are just right right here And you're looking you're like performing singing into people's faces and you can just see everybody's reaction in a bigger show It's a little bit more like I don't even know what's going on. There's just a sea of people It's almost like yeah, not only not only can I see not only can you see them? But they can see you yeah, and it almost is like way too vulnerable Am I doing right to have something in my pocket? Do they see my cute car keys? I Something feels very weird here. Yeah No, I I love that because if there's anything that would be nerve-racking to me it would be And I honestly I was this close. I talked to offspring yesterday and I was this close to asking them Does all this ask you? Is there any time that you say to yourself? Am I good at this? Because like yeah, I mean like even if I was as close to asking offspring this but you know I don't I mean it's offspring, you know, they've been doing it for 30 years. They don't give a shit if they're good at it But I would be very nervous sometimes if I asked if I was like having to do this and and you know Thrust it into this world where I've always wanted to be I mean how I asked myself this question every day on the radio and I'd only I tell fart jokes for Christ's sake But I wonder if I am I wonder how much self-doubt there is for sure. Thank you. Yeah, I Yeah, I've talked to a few friends about this but like the imposter syndrome of like I'm up here. Oh, that's good Yeah, they're gonna there everyone's gonna eventually figure out. I'm not really I'm faking this How long can I It's this feeling of how long can I like pretend like, you know You're supposed to be you know entertaining people at this high level and there's thousands of people but I'm also like man I'm just Dawson. These are just my friends from San Diego. Like is this really great? I think the way I've simplified it for myself is To kind of go back on you guys were talking but the switch vote guys some I'm sure you guys know probably the the greatest dudes Of all time like the sweetest great. They're so amazing, but we were playing a show with them in San Diego At the Del Mar or the San Diego Fair and I was really nervous going out before the show and I got John Foreman the lead singer was right there and I was just like, yeah, I'm nervous It was like one of and this was like before this was still when we were in high school I think but I remember his advice was like just go out there and You're basically like a mirror for people like your energy, you know your confidence, you know Even you just having a good time having fun people kind of just reflect what you are giving off So for me, I feel that way all the time where I'm like, man I don't there's so much there's people way more qualified to be up on the stage or entertain these people but at the end of the day I mean, I think if you're having a good time and hopefully you write some good songs and You know, you just get out there and have a nice time I think people want to enter in into that time. So I try to not overthink it and just try to get out there. I Think he just nailed it. I think yeah Absolutely nailed it. That's right. I've never put it. I've never thought about it this way, but It's a it is a two-way street, isn't it? I mean it only works when it's two ways You know, and I think probably as an artist a lot of people think I'm giving and they have to take it But they give back to so yeah Oh for sure Yeah, be a mirror. That's really it's really great now when you come through your song first off Thanks. Thanks so much for taking some time out of the the hot studio But yeah when it comes to the way that you guys write songs, I will say I mean even even in this, you know space that you're in I mean Barry these kids just it's hook after hook after hook after hook after hook after hook after hook so I mean you guys you guys do And believe me by the way people that write songs like that tell me that they know the industry because this thing called call out and Hooks after hooks after hooks really good for call out and that's a good you really good research and radio So yeah, they're they're radio made It's a radio made Outfit that you guys have and I'm really excited for you guys and I'm excited to see it what it becomes a Bonnaroo Now being right outside the studio you want you could walk in and play something right? You're right there Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean our studio being our garage filled with is it is it the garage? Is that all it is? Yeah, it's just a garage. It's not that nothing fancy we Out of LA at our producers living room, but Our space is a little bit more humble than that. That's awesome. No, that's the way it should be Stay stay right there. Stay right there guys. I'm so I'm so happy you joined us. I really am I'm so glad that you're a part of this and we're excited to meet you the farm of Manchester and probably at some other festival Along the way that will not be named. Yeah I mean who is the who is the band that linked the line up? Um do yeah, could you do that? One guy that released the Bonnaroo lineup really early and it caused the entire festival to have to announce the lineup early knows like imdo mocked all You could be that guy you guys I tell you what I think it's working out in his favor from everything I've seen everybody loves him. Yeah, he's doing good Okay, guys, we'll see you Lollapalooza. All right I'm kidding. I don't know that I just said that I don't know if that's true. All right, thank you so much for joining us Enjoy San Diego life looks tough almost Monday on the what podcast which bands this year that matter the episode today festival First or is it bonner Bonnaroo? Rookies, I forgot the name of the show Barry which first timers first timers. That's a first timers festival first timers First time feels like a first day So the almost Monday kids almost 30 when you add up all their ages. They are a young group They are young kids and you know, I've gotten to that age Barry where you know I think I used to be really angry about young people's success now. I think I just don't care Now I just want them to do whatever they need to do But boy there is a point in my life where I really didn't like when kids are successful and those kids They got it. Those kids got it. You set me up for such a classic dad Grandpa old guy thing. Yeah, I don't even care anymore I quit thinking about stuff like that so long ago because I don't I expected Oh, you're 16 and more successful than me sounds about right? Yeah, it's every one of them now every one of them have this this beautiful life that is just you know curated by an Instagram Feed it's just perfect. I mean the the kids name is even perfect I mean, he's even got a great name. He's cut out of an Instagram thing He's tailor-made for this here. I'll put this in your your thoughts There are certain phrases that when you start any sentence with it's never a good thing And one of them is when I was your age Yeah Did I say that? Okay, well and that's what I mean. I am I try to avoid it. I remember when when I was your age You kids Barry what what were you doing when you were when you were my age? What were you doing 40? I was coaching. No, wait a second. Wait a second That is not true. You are way off there pal way off. Yeah 40 I was coaching Little League Baseball Like what do you got two months how much you got to go You know, we can readdress this topic at Bonnaroo, but for right now Right now we got 39. Yeah. Yeah, I was coaching Little League and whatever Is it well never mind I'm not yeah Here's a great but watch this watch this Barry. Watch this Barry Lord taco. What were you doing at 39? I was doing this show cuz I was just two years ago from yeah, it's drinking PBR. Yeah drinking PBR Yeah, so you can still do that at my age. It's good point. They were good kids man I say all this in jest because I do think that they have it they've got it They feel like they've been you know cut from central casting They were brought in and dropped right there straight from central casting. We need good-looking young pop rock stars You're hired. They got it. I love it, you know What were you doing when you met we were surfing? We met we met on a wave in the ocean Went back to his house and his dad said hey, he played Coldplay's guitar Come on, it's a movie in bed any better Eddie better, you know is you know School equipment that I learned to play on it is it is a 90s movie starring Freddie Prince, Jr. You're exactly right Yes, this is Freddie Prince Keanu Reeves and then some you know kid Neil never see again, but yeah, that's exactly what it is And it's good. I like it. Yeah good. I you know old guy me loves it I thought it was great. I can't wait to see him and here's nice Here's the crazy thing the the conversation went so well. We've run out of time for Devin Cofillion Which is very sad, but luckily we'll have him next week on the what podcast and if I can What do they cut a callback the AJR connection with those guys? I mean, that's awesome AJ are friends of the show friends of Brad. Yeah. Yeah go back You guys if you haven't heard it go back listen to that episode. They were great, too. I love it Yeah, I mean AJR is one of these things were like I I mean I I hear it I just was not expecting it to be like a real thing You know it's it's hard. It's hard for me to like change my brain from seeing them You know hang out at my in my radio station you know conference room eating Papa John's and Then all of a sudden say yeah, I can see them in front of 30,000 people of honor who which great that show was Massive I mean I remember them saying years ago And I think it was quay are from AC entertainment that said you know the biggest show they probably have ever had at At the which stage which is the second stage of honor was Mumford and Sun you know that that right that One show before they hit big and on the what stage there was 30 some thousand people on it You know I think Cardi B probably got there two years ago But man that AJR crowd was up there it had to be up there And I know I don't know if they keep actual records of what they think estimated crowd sizes are anymore But my god that crowd was massive for AJR, and I never saw it coming It was fun, and that's why this is fun, so maybe almost Monday's next Maybe the next you know maybe the next and and you know in a completely different arena Almost Monday fit into that AJR space Devin Cofilli and a completely different artist I mean just could not be a bit more 180 then than almost Monday And I'm really excited to talk to him about the whole songwriting process for him because he's doing it probably much in a much different Way than those kids are doing it. I love talking about this stuff the inside baseball stuff. I love it Yeah, so the other thing about about the show and about Bonnaroo, and we were mentioning in the past couple of weeks We actually have tickets to give away a sold-out show sold-out festival first off I you know I think that we all anticipated Bonnaroo to sell out I don't know if we knew it was gonna sell out that quickly And then to turn out that we still have tickets. I'm kind of surprised it didn't take them away from us Whenever you like have these yeah, we don't we didn't sort of need those back You were serious yeah We don't have those and we have what camping Sure as hell hope so yeah for the I mean the ticket the winners is it's nice I don't want to drop him at the Waffle House and say You gotta go there to the Starbucks right on the entrance there, right? So this is what we're gonna do follow us on Instagram and Twitter taco remind me what the Twitter handles are? Twitter is the what underscore podcast and Instagram is the what podcast okay? Why is it two different things because somebody took it on Twitter before we had it oh? That wasn't my fault though. No no okay. Well sure that was kind of was because you named the show, but ah damn it the what underscore podcast on Twitter so Follow those two accounts and what we'll ask you to do is either tweet or Instagram Hashtag the what podcast send us a tweet either send a tweet out there into the atmosphere about how bad you want to go to? Bonnaroo, maybe show us your your camping setup. Maybe show us You know Bonnaroo memory that you have on Instagram a photo and just hashtag at the what podcast we're gonna pull all of these Hashtags together and then pull a winner probably the next four or five weeks or so and that person will get two tickets and camping pass To the sold-out Bonnaroo 2021 festival. How about that kids is that good enough? I love it I love it. I got it. I gotta say Brad. I'm I keep listening to Aquarius. I love that song Do you really I really I keep listening to it when we're not even doing this show Yeah, tell everyone to radiate. I like I like it a lot Jared's like yeah, but it's not mastered. I'm like Have you heard the show So so if you missed it Jared and Kristen from repeat repeat Jared repeat and Kristen repeat got the whole band together repeat repeat and The theme song for us. That's what you heard at the beginning of the show and you get to hear the whole thing here at The end but if you want to download it, it's available at the what podcast comm they're totally oh, they said just take it It's all it's all yours and play it for all the parties play it for all the the camp sites and make sure it's you know At least available for people to download because you know, who knows they literally whipped it up in two hours I gave them an idea and then it was they were done in two hours. I love it radiate. I love it I love the little hook. I love everything the horns at the end, which is an inside joke for us But I still love it. It's great And you know the only two people in the world that don't like horns. It's very very strange Very odd thing we had this uh, I said, you know in New Orleans There's a lot of second lines, right and people are second lining, you know for funerals for you know Because it was day Yeah, but it's but horns are pervasive in the city and if you hear it like the wife and I will just be sitting at the House one day the the windows will be open you'll hear horns and we'll go running to the windows and the doors because we think that a second line is about to walk by The house or a band is playing, you know, it's like it's like the call it's like the call of the wild in New Orleans and we just come rushing to the horns and You know, I'll always send them videos and pictures of it and they'll just send me this Why who hates horns Everyone has their Challenges very strange. It's very strange. I feel like this is great Is there anything else I mean to get to go download the song rate review us on on your platforms because that really helps It really really helps the consequence people. This is a really for them They they really need you know those numbers and and you know, god love them if you don't know we're now in the consequence podcast network So you rate review the show if you like it if you don't like it I would prefer if you just didn't write a review to be honest with you just skip up the little part and then Enter the contest hashtag the what podcasts on Instagram and Twitter anything else before we go? Nope, have a great week Devon Gavillion next week on a second part of Festival first timers on the what podcast to see you then little bank? Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh consequence podcast network