Today we bring you a very special episode of The What Podcast, with our good friends Daniel, Sharla, Brooklin, and Chelsey from The Roo Bus! They made the trip to Chattanooga from Huntsville so they could sit down with us and record an episode. Along with special guests Bryan Stone of StoneOnAir and Kevin and Mitchell from Camp Reddaroo, we talk Roo lineup rumors for 2020, some favorite Bonnaroo memories, and more.
Topics: Bonnaroo, Roo Bus, Camp Reddaroo
Guests: Daniel Horton, Sharla Horton, Brooklin Johnson, Chelsey Ray, Mitchell Padgett, Kevin Barnes
Hey, hey, hey, hey. How y'all feeling? Journey through the story of Dirt. Journey through the stories that define the artist playing Bonnaroo. Who are they? What are they? What will you see? The what? Which bands? This year? That matter? With Brad Steiner and Barry Courter. So for the first time in the history of podcasting, two Bonnaroo podcasts have come together to make history on the streets of Chattanooga, Tennessee. I'm Brad Steiner. That's Barry Courter. And that's the Real Roo Bus. Now, you might not be a - how does a bus talk? How does an actual bus speak? I speak on its behalf. Okay. That's right. Even when it breaks down. Are you crying on the side of the road, too? I mean, are you suggesting that we're, like, spiritually connected? You might be. With the bus, that would be amazing if you're spiritually connected with the bus. That would be amazing. Now that you mention that, I kind of wonder if it's like one of those Pixar cars, like if it can talk. Oh, my God, that would be amazing. If it could, if it could, what would it actually sound like? What would the bus's voice be like? Would it be like Randy Newman singing a song or? I imagine maybe like George Carlin in the Cars movies. Oh, no kidding. Really? George Carlin. Like an old hippie? Like Barry. Maybe. It's sort of like Barry. Yes, Barry, you're now the official voice of the bus. Fair enough. I can do that. We can record it. When it pulls up, be my voice. Record me some phrases so I can use it like one of those old GPSs. Oh, my God, when you honk the horn, it's just Barry complaining about his back hurting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like every old man. Get off, get off. Get off my lawn. Well, it is a 30-year-old bus, so that would make sense. Jesus. This is pretty exciting. Daniel and the whole family, the whole gaggle of Roobus patrons have joined us in Chattanooga for a podcast. Now, go around the whole thing. Did you bring your whole camp with you? What happened here? This is almost everybody. We have a few tag alongs every year, but this is the core Roobus crew. Why don't you guys introduce yourselves? I'm Brooklyn. Look at the... There is Brooklyn. All right. I'm Sharla. All right. I'm Chelsea. Wow. You have much more like a... Hashtag me too is all I say. There's way more females with you guys than ever in our campsite. It's a prettier group than we're used to. Wait, who are you? What is that voice? I don't know. Oh, I'm just some guy. Okay, there's some guy. Some guy just showed up. Yeah, I just showed up. I'm also from Camp Nut Butters, Brian Stone at the Stone On Air Podcast. If you haven't noticed, he... Most pleasant new podcast in the history of the world. In the history of podcasts, yeah. Now, Daniel, where are you guys from? We are all in Huntsville, Alabama. Actually, just a little outside in Madison, Alabama, if anybody knows where that is. And you guys are in Huntsville too, right? Yeah. Everybody's from Huntsville. I think it's funny you feel the need to clarify that. If anybody's from our area, they would know what I'm talking about. I mean, if you want to get really specific, we're near Harvest, Alabama. How far outside that? Outside of Huntsville, we're about a 20-minute, half-hour drive. That's nothing. All right. What kind of gas mileage does that bus get? Actually, for the size, that thing is, it's not bad. If I was to calculate it out, I think it would cost me maybe 60 bucks to get to Manchester and back from Huntsville. No kidding. What's the drive from there to Manchester? How long is it? Well, in a regular car, about an hour and a half. In the rew bus... About a day, day and a half. Yeah. Start on Monday. I was going to say about nine and a half miles of the gallon, maybe. So, as has been chronicled, last year we had a little bit of an issue with it. Oh, yeah. You almost didn't make it last year. Oh, we made it. It took a very long time, but we made it. Like nine hours? Yeah. If it was running great, we could make it probably two, two and a half hours. Thankfully, though, knock on wood. There's some wood. It's running a little bit better now. I'm going to get a look taken at it after Christmas just to make sure, but I think we're good. Well, lucky for you, we've got a bus expert with at Russ with the bus here with his Volkswagen bus right behind us. He's actually a bus expert. He's literally been keeping this 76 Volkswagen Westfalia on the air. Or on the air. I'm on the air. On the road for... How long have you had it, Russ? A year. Jesus. Is it a diesel? It's a... It's not? Okay, ours is. Big difference. Boom. This is our bus. You brought your bus. You literally brought your bus with you. You brought pieces of your bus with you. So we have a little miniature Hot Wheels version of the bus that our good friend Cassandra gave us for Christmas last year. I'll take it if we can't take the whole thing. And I brought the dashboard of the bus kind of that's got our handprints on it and in the same color paint as the rest of the bus. Now whose hands are on the... What part of the bus is this? This is a giant, just like a generic piece of the bus. Yeah, so that... You're just ripping things off of the bus and bringing it with you everywhere you go? It's only two screws, man. I took that off this morning. That sits kind of below the wheel and it kind of muffles the engine that pokes out in the back so we don't have that breaking our air drums. Wow. And so you basically just take the bus around and just get people to sign it essentially, right? Well, there's no way I could have driven it around in downtown Chattanooga, so that's the way I'm bringing it here. I literally have nightmares about that sometimes. I'm not exaggerating. Driving in general. I have a bad dream where I'm driving the bus in the city and I'm just freezing out with fear. Really? Yeah. Is it that hard to drive? Oh my God, Kanye West just started. Kanye just started. Jesus is king. Yeah. One of those party beer things. So what we're doing, we are literally outside at a hotel in Chattanooga called The Moxie, hashtag at The Moxie, in downtown Chattanooga literally recreating Camp Nut Butter. We recreated our campsite. And by the way, this is essentially what we would bring to Camp Nut Butter. We try to bring as many couches and podcasting equipment. Our giant boner head's on a stick. Our giant marquee, a very disheveled broken down piece of our marquee. But this is what you get when you get a Camp Nut Butter with also 800 square feet of carpeting. Oh yeah, the mailbox. The mailbox. Which was a new addition last year. Has anyone brought anything to the mailbox? I don't think so. Check it please. See if we got anything. If we get drugs again, I'm reporting them to the cops. Last year we got suckers and a cigarette. We got one cigarette. A lot of jewelry. We got stickers. We were hoping for... Will you be, will Roobust be the first entry into the mailbox for I guess the 2020 season? Will you be the first entry into the mailbox? You put something in the mailbox for us. Absolutely. I got some stickers for you and some other random things maybe. Now, you go on your podcast, you basically, you talk Bonnaroo, but you do it in a storytime fashion, right? You basically tell stories about your Bonnaroo experiences. Yeah, so I wanted to leave the news and such to the professionals, the two guys that are sitting in front of me. Oh gosh, that's very loose. You're certainly doing it better than us. I come down here and there's like a whole outdoor studio. We're basically using an old microphone from the Rock Band video games on my back porch. That's it, I promise. One of these days maybe I'll get professional. But yeah, I have to give credit to Sharla. Let's get her on the mic here in a minute. It was her idea. She came to me a couple of months ago and she said one of her favorite aspects of Bonnaroo was all the crazy stories, the things that kind of crop up and people retell year after year. And she thought it would be a good idea to kind of chronicle it. So I'm like, oh, let's do it in a podcast. So really, I mean, I know I do a lot of the talking, but it was her baby. You want to tell us about it, Jane? Really? Jane's her nickname, by the way. I'm sure it was because of a story that you always tell. Because I think everybody at camp, especially at Bonnaroo, has the story that they tell. And it's the one they always come back to every year. It's somewhere like when Dad reads the Bible verse at Christmas. When I sang into the beer bottle during the Red Hot Chili Peppers that Barry told me about? Brian, I know you want my first story to be about you, but it's not. Oh, OK, sorry. Yes, I can still see that image though, Brian. Well, I'm absolutely a storyteller at heart. And I know all the good stories come out of Bonnaroo. And everybody has their Bonnaroo story. And everybody has their story about how they got started at Bonnaroo. And not only that, but just year after year, there's all the good stories of Bonnaroo. You know, I saw this awesome band. And here's my story about the pit at Bonnaroo. But not only that, here's my story about what happened at my camp at Bonnaroo. Here's my funny story of how I set up my camp at Bonnaroo. But is it usually about camp or is it about an artist? It's both. It's absolutely both. Here's my funny story about when I stood in line for six hours to see my favorite artist. Here's my funny story about when I was in line for 27 hours and I got rerouted to the Hillsboro exit. That's not an exaggeration. You know, it's really not an exaggeration. So everybody's got their Bonnaroo story. Everybody's got their Bonnaroo story. So, you know, I thought it would be a great idea to have people write in, have people tell on their social media, have people email us their Bonnaroo stories and we could retell those on our podcast. And it's really never ending because year after year, people just have dozens, hundreds, thousands of their Bonnaroo stories. And it just goes on and on and on. And we could retell those on our podcast. So that was my idea. And, you know, last year, Daniel honestly took a lot of flack for starting Bonnaroo Rumors of Artists. And I didn't want to do that this year. So I really wanted to take a different approach of what the robust social media was. And I really want it to be more that community effort, more that community focused goal. So I really want to bring together people with their stories and their Bonnaroo community experience. So I thought, what a great way to do this by bringing together people with their Bonnaroo stories again. So that was kind of my idea for the podcast. Why did you get flack about line-up stuff? When did that happen? What happened? I will be totally transparent. Just by nature of having a big friendly blue bus and, you know, making sure that we're friends with all the rest of the community. Yeah. Like people come up to us sometimes and say, hey bro, I heard that so-and-so is playing next year. So like I had two people tell me last year on good faith that the Foo Fighters were going to play. It turns out that connections got crossed or whatever. And the Foo Fighters were playing a very close festival, but it was pilgrimage, not Bonnaroo. So I'm like, yeah, you know, I love playing that game. Like, oh, who's playing next year? Yeah, you got one of those emails that I get. They'll be in Tennessee sometime in the summer. Yeah, I did get good faith information that Fish was playing like October of the year before last. That was cool. That turned out to be accurate. The Foo Fighters, not so much. So I'm like, you know what? I'm not playing this game anymore. The fun thing to me is like the community stuff. We'll see. That's exactly what Barry and I talk about forever and ever and ever. And you guys know this too because you've been around for so long. And of course, you know, if you've been to Bonnaroo before, it has nothing really to do with the lineup. It's fun. And right about now is when we enjoy the lineup talk the most. But it really has nothing to do with the line. Well, let me jump in because when you were talking, the fact that we are here in November talking about Bonnaroo is the thing that sort of stands out to me that it's it's become this almost year round thing. You know, when we started talking about doing our podcast, we thought we would do it. What for the three months leading up to it? Yeah, I actually told Barry, I said, I hope nobody listens to this. Yeah. And we thought, you know, Sunday when it ends, we'll maybe do a Monday the day after. And then that's it. You know, shut it down till what? The lineup the next year. And we've done. I mean, it's almost year round. We haven't done so many this year after. But people like you, Bonnaroo and Bonnaroo. I mean, it's this year round thing now. Right. I promise you that there isn't anybody doing a Coachella podcast right now. Well, we thought about it. They yelled at us. They didn't want us to do that. Yeah. Yeah. We've tried to incorporate other festivals. They get very, very touchy because the second that you say, yeah, what's a Bonnaroo podcast? And we talk about other stuff. But we'd like you to not talk about Bonnaroo or call it a Bonnaroo podcast. Or we want you to change the name. By the way, look at these guys. Welcome back, guys. Look at these guys. So clean. You guys look so strange when you're showered and adorable. Now, the now remind me is the beer. We met them at the beer exchange, right? Exchange, which was massive. What a great time. I was stunned as to how good that beer exchange was. They do it really cool. Now, what pot is that in? It's in seven. Is the changes every year, right? Kevin from Camp Red Roo, ladies and gentlemen. Tell us about it. Hey, guys. What's up? Hi. I feel a lot cleaner since the last time I've seen you guys. It's strange. We were strange. That was a great time, though. Yeah, it's a great time. And I'll tell you how dirty we were. Barry's hair wasn't gray. That's right. It was a sort of sandy, dusty color. You know, it's funny because we were looking over some of the pictures on the way over here from our podcast. And, you know, we were in that tent and it's all sweaty and dirty. And then, you know, you're like, oh, we're going to go meet up with the family. And, you know, we see some we see a little bit of each other throughout the years and stuff like that through, you know, during the bottom off season. And when you see each other like your first reactions always that is like, wow, you're so much cleaner now. Like, but yeah, it was interesting when you say first reaction, when I see a Bonnaroo person, a Bonnaroo fiend in the wild. Outside of Bonnaroo. The first thing I say, it just gives me a big smile and I just want to hug somebody because no other time in my life do I really like anyone. But when I see a Bonnaroo person, I'll just come here. Yeah, just come here. You know, like I think we talked about this a little bit last time during our podcast. But, you know, our the uniqueness about Camp Redaroo and our family that we have is we're so spread out through the U.S. that a lot of us travel throughout the year to visit each other. We've spent like friends giving together. Mitchell usually throws a big birthday bash that we go to when you met Mitch, though. You guys had known each other before, though. No, we didn't know each other before. Oh, shit. So you guys met through Bonnaroo. Yeah. So funny enough. So how I came to Bonnaroo was through a Camp Redaroo member who was a part of the original 2012. And we went to high school together. And so I went in 2015 was my first year. And then, you know, you just instantly click. And I met Mitchell that first year. And I think we went to his birthday party that October. And then, you know, we've almost been in separate when we see each other literally year by year by year. I moved out to Salt Lake City was out there with I actually moved to Salt Lake City for groups for a group of individuals that are part of Camp Redaroo. And I picked that city. My work gave me the opportunity to go to Salt Lake City or Colorado. And I picked Salt Lake City because I knew people in that city. So it really does become a big part of our lives. That's amazing. Kyle, your friend Kyle moved to what Murfreesboro. I listened to your podcast the other day. Yeah. Kyle is a good buddy. He runs the Twitter account Bonaroo. He is the kindest like general soul that you'll ever meet. I'm sorry. I don't work in radio. He's the kindest soul that you'll ever get to eat it. No, you're good. Go, go, go. He embodies the spirit of like the Bonaroo code. He is always like kind and like just generally wants to hang out or whatever. And he has done a good job to kind of keep the spirit of the community going year round. Yeah, that's why he's one of those guys. I mean, he's he's all in. I mean, to the point of movie was from what, New Jersey? I think so. Yeah. He's at Middle Murfreesboro now. He's in school. But wait, did he move to Murfreesboro for Bonaroo in part? Stop it. That's what he said. Wow. Dude is a class act. He was a military. I could have rented him a room at my house if he needed it. He didn't have to do all that. I can give you so many people like that that embody the community spirit year round. Like one of our good buddies is Ryan, the guy that's kind of the brainchild of the Rue shoot. Celia, who is over Rue Fitness. There's so many people that kind of have their area for like their specialty area of Bonaroo. And we were talking a little bit before we started recording. Every year we joke around about who's headlining next year. But honestly, it's just a soundtrack to a great weekend with my good friends that I see once or twice a year. Hey, Daniel, can I ask you? I'm sorry to interrupt. You brought up Rue shoot. I am so fascinated by this Rue shoot and how they coordinate this every year and get this massive whatever the hell it is. Yeah, because they don't just do it at Bonaroo. They do it at other places too. How do they coordinate doing this and getting this inside the grounds and everybody gets underneath and it's a whole other podcast in itself maybe? Yes, either us or you guys should have them on to tell their story. Can you do it in two sentences real quick? Oh, man, I don't want to speak for them, but basically they had some run ins with security this past year. Yeah, shocking news. A massive parachute in there. No, I just like wearing a giant cape. I'm just happy to see you. Really, you should have them on or I should get him on. They have kind of transitioned to being the parachute people because they're going to so many different festivals. And they do such a wonderful job to spread like positive messages about mental health awareness. Oh, no, nothing that I could have ever said was anything other than a positive message. What they're doing, I don't know how they get that damn thing in the center every year. It's not easy. I hear. Sorry to take over your show. You know, there was this there was this moment in my life when I would buy anything that I saw that was really clever on TV. And I bought this thing where like that wrapped around my body and eventually was like this pouch that you filled with beer. And they called it the beer belly. And you basically just walked around. You just looked like a big fat guy. And but yet you had sloshing around beer in your stomach. Right. And it had a tube that you could suck the beer out of. That's essentially how they get the shoot in. They just shove it into their stomach and they just act like a fat guy. Where you going with this, Brad? I'm not sure where that was going. I don't want to sink it down my pants. But for ladies, I've seen that there's a bra that does that nowadays. Really? You can smuggle in your liquor. And they have bracelets. Yeah, they have bracelets that you can put. Yeah. Yeah. What's a wine bracelet? Now, now, Mrs. There's a wine bracelet. What is that? It's just jewelry that was there. And then you fill it with wine. Sweet, sweet hooch. I dated her once. That's a good band name. Yeah. You did not date her once. Let's be honest. All right. Okay, so we've talked about Bonnaroo and how your podcast. But can we talk about specifically, since I've got a group of Bonnaroo people who are probably very well into the Bonnaroo culture and conversations happening right now. And since this podcast is happening in November, I really would like to address a couple of things. I want to mock schedules. Now, there's a person here, anybody here, has actually made a mock schedule. Raise your hand. Yeah. You guys made a mock schedule? I was going to say I saw the Real Roo bus mock schedule the other day. I kind of liked it, by the way. Yes, the fake one. The fake one. Tell me how you made your mock schedule. Tell me what went into it. And then give me what you were trying to accomplish with your mock schedule. Well, I made one that was more or less a joke that was just in support of who we all want to see at some point, Miss Dolly. So it was a wish list. Well, that one, I mean, if she could play three sets, that'd be amazing. And you went by, you were using availability of artists for 2020 from what I saw, right? It was like you knew that they were potentially available at that time. So you weren't just saying, I want to see the Rolling Stones. You were saying these potential artists can be available in the summer of 2020. Right. Which I think is a fun way to look at, you know, that's what we do. We speculate all year long. I mean, it's easy. It's fun. You can look at who AC is booking, who they have playing around that time, who is not scheduled to play in Nashville. And you can kind of put two and two together. And another example is like, OK, what's a big artist that is touring that has played other festivals that hasn't played Bonnaroo recently? So Tame Impala is one that makes perfect sense. Well, yeah, Tame Impala. That's Brass Band. So, but here's what I'd say. Before we get into what mock schedules make sense or what don't make sense, I need to implore anybody that's actually listening to this. That's part of the Bonnaroo culture. If you're on Reddit or if you're not, it doesn't matter if you're making mock schedules. I really think it does a disservice to Bonnaroo. I think that mock schedules are a really, really bad thing if you do not specifically say this is a wish list. And I'm saying it for a reason. Expectations get completely out of they get blown out of the water. Expectations do not get put back onto Earth. And then when we get the lineup, it drops and we're like, well, this sucks. We will. This person's I thought we were having Miley into Rihanna, into the Foo Fighters, into the Rolling Stones. I thought they were up. Let me do a thing. So I did a little bit of math and I called some people in the industry that got the numbers. I found a mock lineup on Reddit. I don't know who made it. I really don't know who made it. I'm going to go through one day of the mock lineup. OK, I'm not going to read the whole thing that they did on a Saturday. It was a random Saturday rage against the machine. Vampire weekend. Kid Cudi. My chemical romance. Lizzo. Brittany Howard. The high women. Danny Brown. Local natives. Perfume genius. That's an entire festival, guys. Like that's an entire weekend. Right. Do you know how much just that day costs? Five point five million dollars. Five point five million dollars in one day. They do not have a budget for five point five million dollars. And I'm going to go you one step better. If you put my chemical romance on a mock schedule, I want you to know that is going to cost you one point five million dollars. But my chemical romance on the festival lineup. What did Cardi B get last year? And what was her placement on the line on the on the poster? What was she five? Was she on the top line or the second line? Third line, I want to say. OK, well, Cardi B got four hundred thousand dollars last year. Do you think that they're going to sell tickets, putting my chemical romance at one point five million dollars on that lineups top line? You think they're going to sell any tickets that way? I don't think so. So, again, these mock lineups, they're fun. They're really fun. But please, I hope there's not a human being ever taking them seriously. I hope that there is somebody saying to them, this is just for fun. This is just because, by the way, this mock lineup that I saw, it was great. But it also had the next day, Rihanna, Dolly Farton, Damon Fowler, Oyster Head and Run the Jewels. That's another four million dollars. So I'll tell you one reason I think people do that is we're able to look at past lineups with rose colored glasses. If you look at like 13, 14, 15. That is a great point in. You see a lot of bands that weren't as expensive back in that day. And you think like, oh, well, they can book acts like that again. No, they can't. That's right. That's exactly right. I was looking at whoever on Reddit is posting these like snapshots back to the schedule like Saturdays of 2012 or whatever. I mean, you can look down and see like the national on the stage. Well, you're not getting that anymore. That's the whole point of kind of what you and I've been talking about for a year is sort of this. The reality of this, how it works, how these festivals work, the thinking behind it. You know, we had Jeff Quay are on a couple of times and he's been so insightful sort of giving us this insight on how it actually works. You know, I mean, I think your point is right. But it is a wish list. We all have our wish list. And I think you hit it right on the head. We we we don't think about what they cost this year. You know, it is a great point. Danny makes a great point because in 2009 and I posted this on Twitter earlier. 2009, we all, every one of us, I don't care how many people say that they did, they missed Adele. Adele was on the lineup in 2009. And I read the Rolling Stone article earlier today to a quote unquote smallest crowd. That's heartbreaking. And if you put Adele on the on the lineup right now, she's going to cost you about two point seven million dollars. So I'll give you a similar story since that's kind of our deal storytelling. We went to go see Post Malone in 2016. There wasn't much of anybody there. And it was a bad show. He was also less if you face tattoos, by the way. Yeah, it was a bad show because basically every hip hop show is terrible. No doubt about that. I'm not kidding. A similar story I found out just because of YouTube. We like watching videos. Yeah. Walk the Moon literally won a contest to show up in 2012 or 13. Like that was they had a music video where he enlisted his grandpa, like the lead singer, was like, We just want to go to Bonnaroo. Help us out. They got Walk the Moon for free that year. So, yeah, there anybody that's on the who stage. I'm going to rip the bandaid off and just say it. And I really don't like saying it. But if you look past the behind the curtain, anybody that plays on the who stage plays for free. And I don't really like saying that. And the other part that I've got to make sure that I've talked to somebody about, but they even have to bring their own gear. They have to bring their own gear and they have to pay for anybody that's traveling there, which really sort of stinks. I've got to figure out and we can talk to Quaeyar about it. We can talk to somebody Bonnaroo about it. But something is not right for a pay to play on the who stage and especially the spots that mean so much to people like the Black Keys. The Black Keys would not be who they are. I don't think if not for the who stage in 2007. Well, let's be clear. We don't know that they're not paid. They might be paid something, but they have to pick up a bunch of the expense. So I don't know if it's totally. Well, I know for a fact that DeLacy pulled out last year because she had to pay to be there. Well, that's what I'm saying is that they would have had to pay their. Right. They might have got a couple hundred dollars as a fee, but the expense of travel. Was way too much for them to cover. So I can attest to this a little. Our mutual friends repeat repeat played the who stage two years ago. They played the who stage a couple of days after they played the bus for us. And we helped them set up when they came in. And it very much was a DIY thing for them. They came in their van and a trailer and that was it. They had to do everything themselves, not just for us, but for the who stage too. Yeah, it is. It's a weird. It's a tough thing. But when you go to the who stage, when you go through the list of people who were there and back to your. I think it was a really, really good point. The people that you that are there and you look back in the past and there's five years ago. Oh, my God. The national played the smallest stage at Bonnaroo. If you had to find your biggest miss, if you had your biggest Bonnaroo miss, who would it be? Like, how do you mean? OK, the show you didn't go to the show you didn't go to the show that Matt and Kim was mine. It was it was this. It was this tent, right? It was this tent and it was it was a Thursday or Friday. It was midday, too. I remember being very, very hot. Yeah, they do a great show. It's a it's a very lively and he was like out in the crowd or she was out in the crowd playing the drums. Yeah, carrying the drums anyway. Biggest miss, Daniel, what do you got? The one that immediately comes to mind, I think, was 2015. I missed Tycho is one of my favorite electronic acts. They played a late night show and I was just looking at the schedule the other day and I think I must have just crashed that night. I know Barry's. I'm ready. Tom Petty. Yeah. You know why? You remember why is Tom Petty? Yeah, I know exactly why I had my daughter called it like two in the afternoon and said, I got us in the pit. You want to go? And I said, yep. And then I sat in a chair and I said, I got to go home. I'm done. He sat in a chair. I got that's why he missed his show. I'm comfortable. Of an artist who you'll never see. I'll never see. I sat in a chair. Yeah. Well, I don't really have a story for myself, but my best friend, Amanda. So she went when the Beastie Boys played. Yeah. Except she fell asleep. Yeah. Just fell asleep. Fell asleep with the Beastie Boys? Yep. Fell asleep and just missed it. They would be second or third. I saw that show, but I wasn't really into it. I didn't know them like I do now, you know what I mean? I have a bunch of those. The My Morning Jacket, who I now adore. Look, the biggest problem to Barry's weekend is a little thing called a chair. His entire weekend gets thrown off because of a chair. It's partly true. The dad sits at camp and just wants all the kids to come home safely. He will miss worse shows just so he's just sitting around a camp under a blanket, curled up, all like this. Partly true, but I think I put- Are the kids home? Is everybody here? I put that to bed last year with Gucci Mane at 4.30 in the morning when we were dancing. You were bitching about your lower back the whole time. No, I wasn't either because I didn't feel a lot of pain at that point. It was a good night. What about you, Brad? What did you miss? I have two that are very, very embarrassing. First off, I'm really upset that I missed King Princess last year, considering how much I love this album now. Now, Brooklyn went to see that show. Can you tell us about it? It was fun. A 45-year-old woman, I'm assuming, flashed her boobs at King Princess. It was just like a real rainbow party. A rainbow party. It was great. There was pride stickers going around. It was so wonderful. I hate telling the story, but when I was... I used to be... Before I do what I do now, I just live in the Top 40 world, I had to run a rock station. Believe me, this rock station sucked. There was nothing that made any sense about it. As a guy who thought that he knew what he was doing for a long time, he... Me, I thought that I had my finger on the pulse. 2010, I look at the lineup and I see this band called LCD Sound System, and I don't give a damn. I don't know who they are. I don't care. Then, I started listening to them a few months later, and I was like, oh my God, this band's amazing. I got to see them. I go online and I find out where they're playing next. It's Madison Square Garden. It's their breakup show. I totally missed LCD Sound System for a decade, and I blew it because they were on the 2009 or 2010 lineup, didn't even sniff it, didn't care, didn't want it. They had no interest in being there. I missed LCD in South City. When they came back in the year that we all talk about being the most embarrassing lineup and crowd in Bonnaroo history, I look back at that as my favorite Bonnaroo because I got to be there with literally no one else. Can I interrupt the what podcast and the real Roo Bus podcast? I mean, it hasn't stopped you yet. Can I do that? Didn't Paul McCartney play in 2013? Yeah, I didn't. You didn't go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't say that. I was there. I know. Why did we let him in, right? I was there. Let me explain. The reason why Brian Stone lives in infamy and kept nut butter is because he showed up one time, and it happened to be the Friday night after McCartney, and we were just on the sidelines, and he looked at us like, overrated. I hated the show. It was stupid. It was every other show you've ever seen of Paul McCartney. He played the same show in Memphis the next week. We looked at Brian and we said, Brian, did you watch this? Can you believe he played live and let die? I said, Brian, he played live and let die. I said, Brian, did you see the show? Nope, I said a camp. Well, to be fair, our camp is about 100 yards from the stage, so yeah, I heard it. All right, sounds great. He played live and let die. Can y'all believe it? So it was that, and then 2009, Al Green. I missed Al Green because I decided to chase a girl down the path, and we decided to go see Ani DeFranco instead of Al Green, who no longer with us. Hillary, was that your idea? I love you more now than I've ever loved you before. We'll never get to see Al Green because I chose Ani DeFranco. So I got a quick story to tell you about LCD Soundsystem. I already went through this story on our podcast a couple weeks ago. That was my favorite year of all time. I know that the crowd sucked that year, but it made for such a good vibe and it was easy to get around, like me and my buddy Brandon went up front. That LCD Soundsystem show was amazing. Now, my follow-up story to that was about two or three years later, we go to the Voodoo Festival in New Orleans. Pretty good city festival. We had a good time. It was a good headliner that year. It was LCD Soundsystem, the Killers and the Foo Fighters. We go walking around in the French Quarter the next day after LCD Soundsystem show, just looking for a place to eat or whatever. I walk right by James Murphy, who's taking a stroll through there. I pass him and I'm like, I asked Sharala and them, I'm like, should I go say something? Oh my God, I don't want to be like a dork or whatever. But I was like, you know what? I'm never going to get this opportunity again. I'm going to go say something. I went up next to him. I was keeping it cool at first. I was like, oh, hey James, I want you to know that was a great show last night, man. That was really good. He's like, oh, I appreciate it. And I was like, dude, I was at your show at Bonnaroo like three years ago. I was having such an awesome time. That was amazing. He was like, oh, that's your job, man. Yeah. It opened up the sieve. As soon as you turn the water on, everything came out, right? Yes. That's a whole lot better than good work. Oh, I knew that was going to come up. I knew you were going to say that. So I've told this story before. It breaks my heart to tell it, but it is my Bonnaroo story that you guys talk about all the time. It's Billy Joel. It's Sunday night. And I'm dying to get out of there before Billy Joel. I just can't. I can't do it. I can't do it. And Spoon happened right before them on the What Stage. And that's when I left and I could have been on the stage with you guys. Thanks, Brian. That mattered a lot to the story. All right. Go ahead, Brad. So we got lucky and we were standing on stage for Spoon. And behind the What Stage, there's this very, very long ramp that takes you back into artist. I mean, this ramp might be 150 yards. It's really, really long. And there's one way down and then there's a thing that separates you and then you come up. There's nobody coming up the stage. This is after Spoon. Spoon's done. Billy Joel's next. A whole crowd of people are walking down the ramp. One figure just keeps getting closer and closer to us as it comes up the ramp. One figure, closer and closer and closer. As it gets closer, I look at my buddy Nick and Hillary and goes, that's Billy Joel. Billy Joel's walking up the ramp. Nobody's talking to Billy Joel. Nobody's stopping him. Nobody's saying hello. So I said, screw it. And I stopped Billy Joel. I was like, Billy Joel! Great work. And he said, thanks and walked straight past me. It was in that moment I realized I've got nothing to say to Billy Joel. I've got no conversation. You're the piano man. I've got Christie Brinkley. I've got no conversation for Billy Joel other than great work. So you guys get to live in Valhalla for like the Bonnaroo weekend back there where you are more likely. We don't like talking about it because somebody's going to pick it and riot us. We are pretty sure about it. I mean, you guys are media. Everybody's going to put two and two together. But you get to live back there where you're more likely to run into artists. So don't you have like a bullet point or two in mind for your favorite ones that you might run into? Well, OK, we have. Well, no. His point is he doesn't like Billy Joel, I think. I actually skipped that joke. No, it's not that he doesn't like Billy Joel. It was fine. He's a fellow Mets fan. But I love him. But I don't have anything to say to him. I have nothing to talk to him about it. But Dua Lipa, you were on Cloud 9 that year. Well, we did more than talk. Oh, yeah, more than talk. I got you. Well, I will say this person is going to remain nameless, but we did have a band stop by and sit down with Camp Nut Butter and decide that year to tell me, who is the biggest Alabama Shakes fan on the planet, how much the Alabama Shakes sucked and how much they were overrated and how irritated he was about Alabama Shakes. Name them. Any attention what you want that they should deserve. They used to be our neighbors. You have to name them. I cannot because they've been very, very good to me since then. I can't. Yeah, it's an interesting. I mean, we talked before we went on air, Daniel, about the different experiences. We are definitely we come at it a different way. We're in the IP area backstage, I guess. And you had said you didn't know if you'd want to be in the trees where we are because you like. And I can tell you, four years ago, we would never have considered even going out into general camping. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, that was not happening. No, but now with all of the changes, the experiences and all of that, once we started doing this, I mean, I think we talked about it several times on the podcast. It sounds like a lot of fun. There's a lot of things. It really feels like and this is a credit to the people who put this on. They have made a they have created an event in an up in a world for general admission that is better than anything that you can get anywhere else in the festival. And if I had it in me to deal with bugs, heat, people, germs, whatever, no bugs. We've talked about that. We've never seen it. We'll talk about it later. Kevin's brother does that. You guys don't know his praise for the bug. All these new people. You don't know Brad as well as we do, but let him continue. It's too I'm too neurotic to live out there. I can't do it. I can't do it. The only way I can I can do it is in the creature comforts of being tucked away in a world that is all to our own. But with that being said, it is really phenomenal out there. And the times that I've spent, I didn't want to leave. Now, granted, I did, but I didn't want to. He didn't want to until he did. So, Barry, we were talking about this earlier. So the way that the festival world has gotten in the past couple of years, it's tougher to book good acts, right? It's tougher to have a lineup that's more festivals. Yeah. More demand. Yep. But AC has done a very good job to realize that their strength is in the camps and the community. They've built those new barns and they've had really cool people like the House of Yes out of New York come down and do really cool stuff. Yeah, that was really cool. Yeah. Can you tell us real quick about that, Chelsea? That was one of your favorite things, right? That was cool because they had this whole like New Orleans parade at the House of Yes. But it was like all just like rainbows and like the band was playing. I don't know. It was really cool. Pride parade. Yeah. It was awesome. Now, is it the same parade that used to happen 10 years ago, 15 years ago that used to go through the festival? They just move it to the House of Yes? I think they move it around. I mean, it's still sort of the House of Yes. And then I guess like this big kind of party type thing, then they just kind of just moved it around everywhere. So I don't know. It was fun. Let me jump in now because it seems like a natural segue. But Jeff Cuellar, I had reached out to him a week ago to see if he had some news that we could maybe announce for this podcast. They've been they've been so good to us and so helpful. And he called this morning, actually. And it's not you know, I knew he wasn't going to give us an artist or anything like that. But he said, to your point and to what we've been talking about, every year they address something. You know, they planted trees, they planted grass, they've redone the added the bathrooms. And and they when the festival ends, they all gather and they think, what do we need to fix? And this year, he told me today that the the parking or the the traffic not from the freeway, but once you get past the sort of security, how do they get you to your campsite? Is there focus? And I actually had asked him, I said, is the delay? I figured it was the security. And he said, no, that's really not it. I mean, they can add lanes. The issue is there's 88 camping, there's VIP camping, there's group camping. But everybody comes in, you know, in the line and then it's how they filter them out. So I mean, to me, it's one of those things that doesn't sound sexy. But if you're sitting there in that car, it's needed. Exactly. Is it needed? Because you have to explain to me how bad it is. Well, I don't know. Is is that an actual issue? Yes, it definitely was a big issue this past year. There was a huge line of people back to 80,000 people. Yeah. For one thing. Well, there was a ton of people that were backed up on the interstate this past year. And we spoke to people who dropped by the bus to come speak to us that said they waited more than six, seven hours. That had been unheard of for many years now. Before we had the bus, we would drive in and would take like an hour or two at most. But we talked to a lot of folks that got frustrated beyond belief this past year. So for Jeff to say that, that's awesome. I think that is one of the biggest needs. Yeah. And we look, Mitchell's here. I think he's got a word. Mitchell has something to add. So we have a contingency that comes from Chicago each year. And Carrie arrived at the gate at the gate to get in line at 11, 15, 11, 20. And she finally got to us at around nine thirty a.m. That was Thursday, Friday morning. That was that happened this year at Bonnaroo. Because the line was that intense. Ten hours roughly. And now she to go to go 400 yards. Well, I'm not sure how long the line was because, you know, it stacks up out there on the interstate. But she got in line at around 11, 15, because we saw it in the group chat. And then it was just a long list of extremities that she screamed about. Yeah. So this is exactly what I had. If I had if I had a group of women that screamed to my extremities, if I can't understand these guys know much better than I do, they can only do a, you know, a checklist of, you know, you fill out a form at the end of the year. Right. You do. What is your would you like? Would you not like? Yeah. But yeah, they what are the survey? Yeah, they can do so many surveys. Right. But how do they actually know these things are problems? That's what I like to talk to Jeff about. If we had Jeff or somebody and they also we know because they do our Moon River here and some forecastle. This is what they do. Those guys are walking around noticing where the lines are, where the bottlenecks are, the problems are. There's only so many things that they can address. Like you just said, you know, each year. But this is this one has jumped to the top of the line. So if there's if there's a thing that I've learned how much I love about Bonnaroo and Festival Life to begin with just overall, when we started doing this, I didn't know how much I loved infrastructure as much as I love it. It is so fascinating to me how they can find a problem, identify it and then figure it out either on the fly or then the next year. And so what I'd love to talk to Jeff or insert person here from from whoever is working the infrastructure part of it. I'd love to know when they identified a problem, how they found it and how are they then going to fix it. That is fascinating to me. So yeah, that's I think that's the reason I brought it up, because it's that level of detail that makes us all like this festival so much. In that vein, and I am very glad to hear that Jeff is making that priority in that vein. One of the things, probably the top thing that I would say is the biggest room for improvement. And I love my I'm critiquing it because I love it. But the biggest thing I could say that needs improvement is the integration with folks like Kevin from Camp Red with the super group with Rooshoot. We talked a little bit about the issues that they had getting the shoot through security. We've been thinking about it and through the interaction that we have literally every day sometimes with the general community, the folks that keep coming back and back. We're keeping the conversation going probably more so maybe even better in some cases than their official channels do. We would love to have better integration with them to work with them on our events. We hosted repeat repeat two years ago. The folks with Red Roo are having literally a thousand or more come in for the beer exchange. And we understand AC has a ton of things they're working on. Moon River here. They're doing that festival at the horse track in Kentucky and things like that. We realize that they have limited resources, but just having a line to talk with them so we can have infrastructure to support what we're doing. I think that is probably the biggest improvement because, as I said before, it's not necessarily the lineup that keeps us coming back. I'm coming back to hang with Kevin. I'm coming back to hang with Mitchell. It's the community. They're so dreamy. Look at them. Yeah. Yeah. So one of the you know, one of the things that I wanted to just interject and again, this is not a complaint towards Bonnaroo because, you know, they do put on this and they do it really well. But, you know, over the years, as I've had to wait in line and then there's been times where I've got to get in early with Bonnaroo's blessing to allow us in early. But, you know, we we got tracked by the local. You know, they they had the local PD out that are directing traffic. So it's like their mission doesn't get all the time communicated to those that are locally helping. So, you know, that seems to be some of the problem. And again, this is not bashing them. But, you know, we've made it to all the way to the we got told to go to the East toll booth. And then when we got to the East toll booth, we were like, oh, you got to get back in line. So then we got back in line for another couple hours to get all the way back to the West toll booth. So like Daniel was saying, you know, with some of these groups and stuff like that, one of the biggest things that I'm it's good to hear that they're going to. To be really focusing on that. But, you know, maybe have, you know, additional you can't cut down gates to probably make more entries, but, you know, make make ones where if you're going to be in this side of the campgrounds, you're going to enter this gate. You're going to enter in this side of the campgrounds. That was just makes so much more sense. And I mean, I know they do have a few other gates to do that. So, you know, I think it's just that confusion where, you know, maybe it's the local help that's pushing people over. But, you know, I think just open it up and say it. OK, you know, if you come to this side, you're going to get assigned to this side of the campgrounds. If you're coming in this side, go to this side of the campgrounds. And then maybe it would tool up that, you know, you know, traffic that once you get past the security. Yeah, that was my understanding was, as he said, there's still going to be delays. They're still going to have to go through security and all that. But figuring out a way, you know, if you're ADA camping or your group camping to better filter it through so it goes a little bit quicker. So, I mean, to me, like I said, it's as we've talked about so many times, all the little things add up to your overall experience. And my bet is that the 12 hour person, the person that we didn't think about that the rest of the weekend. My best didn't even occur. I don't know, man. That's a long time. I don't know. I heard people pretty salty. And that's why they left early on Sundays because they were just they did not want to get stuck in. Have you had a year? Speaking of stories, have you had a year where you just said, screw it? I got to get out of here. You know, the last year, when it rain, I don't want to talk about when it when it stormed in 2018, I'm one that I will. I was in the military. I've been out there. I've been in rain, sleet, snow, about just about everything. Get I mean, the desert in Iraq in the summertime, one hundred and twenty five degree heat that I've been through it all. But is it as bad as me wearing two pair of pants right now? It's I prepared for a much colder day. I'm wearing two pair of underwear. But being waterlogged, you know, it raining what overnight Saturday night into Sunday morning and just being waterlogged. We we stuck it out throughout the day. And then when it started storming and getting really windy again that evening, thankfully, my brother does live five minutes down the road from Bonnaroo. And we were like, you know what? We're packing up and we're just going to go to the house because, you know, there's just so much that you can do in rain. And we knew that the day was this. This was after the headliners on Saturday night. So we didn't stick out the party we usually have because on Sunday night we usually try to have kind of a blowout bash. You know, it's like that big send off in Camp Ritter because, you know, you're not going to see your friends again for another year. And we just couldn't do it. We you know, a few there's a small group of us were like, you know, we're going to go to the hot shower and get the hot shower early. I've told many, many people I can handle the heat. The rain at Bonnaroo is the game changer. Because you can't get away from it. You take all that into your tent with you and your clothes. And yeah, that's it. That's the one I worry about. No, I would never be able to handle mud and rain. Oh, no, that would kill me. Here's my problem with mud. Sometimes it might be shit. So I don't really know the difference sometimes. No, I've never bailed out at Bonnaroo, but my first and second year, I just did not know what I was doing. And I left on Sunday and it wasn't because I was tired of honor or anything. I just literally did not know what I was doing. Just literally like was a newbie. And I was like, oh, well, oh, yeah. We skipped Tom Petty. Yeah. The first year I was at Montero, I skipped Tom Petty just because I honestly did not know what I was doing. No, I love Tom Petty was a mistake. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I know that now. But I was just like, oh, yeah, I need to get home. I also really enjoyed how during the rain, especially, you know, we're talking about the rain in 2018. Like the the the ditches that they just put hay on top of and the hay just floats on the water. So it creates the illusion that there's actually hard ground and just watching people go click. See, I mean, my first one was 15 years ago or so. What they have done to that site to fix stuff like that. The one year I went, the rain created little puddle, little rivets. In between the what and center. And then as every as 80,000 people walked through it over time, this little two foot became 18 foot. Yeah. And then you couldn't walk between cars. I mean, it's just so. But like and I love you guys, but I can hear all of you. And I know that none of you went to Bonnaroo before 2008. No. Yeah, there the rain the rainstorm of I think 2003 or four or something like that was damn near the worst thing that's ever happened to my life. And I will never forget. And again, this is one of my stories I tell at camp every year. The first year I went to Bonnaroo, I screwed everything up. I went to the wrong entrance. I was stuck out in into general admission and I had no idea what I was doing. I didn't know what camping was. I mean, if I'm neurotic now, imagine, you know, 22 year old me. I had no idea what was happening. We got there. We were miserable immediately. We were so irritated by that night. The rain just hammered us. And the rain. What year was it, Nate? That the rain was so it was it was Dave Matthews and friends or something. And I remember it was the worst rainstorm I have ever been in my life to the point where I literally looked next to me and saw a woman. Defocating into a puddle. This is why I was like, I can't do mud. I don't know the difference. It was the worst I've ever. And I said to myself, I'm never coming back. It's disgusting. I don't want to see these people anymore. This is the opening scene of Lean On Me where the principal's head slammed into the wall. I was never coming to. And so the guy that I was with, he drove the car so fast while dead and friends were on. I felt as though we were running over tents. And what happened? Karma hit us. We we got stuck in a mud puddle 20 yards away from the exit, 20 yards to freedom. We get the hell out of this hell hole that was Bonnaroo 20 yards and we got stuck there. We fell asleep in the car. I was in the passenger seat and I woke up to this brrrr brrrr brrrr sound. And it was a kid from Manchester in a four by four pulling people out of the mud. I mean, we were when we got out of the car. I'm not kidding. Our our the half of the wheel was under mud. Half of the wheel. It was that dug in. There was like you paid the kid twenty dollars. He pulled you out. I've never been so happy to get out of a place in my life. And I swore on that day I would never, ever, ever walk back into Bonnaroo. Now here you are hosting a podcast. And now I host a podcast about. Well, I think my second year it rained and I was in a pup tent and I had a air mattress that leaked and it was stundering and lightning and storming. And I'm I remember looking at the top of my tent thinking I can't go anywhere. I'm either going to die or I'm not. This isn't the Titanic, Barry. You're overstating it. No, I'm going to get hit by lightning. I was convinced lightning was just and and then I woke up in a puddle because my air mattress lost all the air and the tent leaked. It's like, yeah, why am I doing this? I'm like you. This is awful. It felt miserable. There are times in Bonnaroo you're like, this is the worst. And I was so unprepared. America. Why am I here? My first campsite, I had the foresight for some reason to throw cheap sawhorses and a two by four piece of plywood in my truck. Yeah, this is why he's my dad. Because he comes over and builds things like this at my house. That became my table. But I didn't think of shade. So I happened to have my umbrella, you know, which is always in the vehicle. And so I put the umbrella on that table and bungee corded it. And then we followed it like a sundial to find that two feet of shade for the rest for lunch, you know, or whatever. That was awful. So my first time. By the way, is that the heaven or nail? It's delicious. Yeah, it's very, very delicious. Yeah, it's good. It's yeah. I was going to go to Bloody Mary and I saw them pour this. By the way, if you ever come to Bonnaroo, go to the Camp Redderoo beer exchange. I brought you the odd story, which is the right around the corner. And now you got the heaven and love supreme. You're doing very well. The odd story. The Viennese is very good. See. Welcome to Chattanooga. Thank you. So my first year coming to Bonnaroo, I didn't know I was coming to Bonnaroo until the month before. This was 2009. And my buddy is literally like, Mitchell, you're coming to Bonnaroo with me. We're going to give you one hundred dollars. You have to pay for the rest. I was like, OK. And so I go to Bonnaroo and I have no preparation. I literally have looking at my supplies and I have a sleeping bag, a really shitty tent I haven't used in like three years. End of discussion. We're done. We're prepped. It's just like the polar opposite of where you are now. Oh, it was bad. So and I'm looking at space and there's six of us total in a truck and they go, leave your tent. One of us has a 12 person tent. It's going to be great. So everybody leaves their tent behind. I buy a bag chair and I have my bag chair and my clothes. That's about all I've got. So we know when things to bring a damn easy up. None of us. And the truck breaks down about a mile away from the entrance while we're waiting in line. And we're like, all right, just grab the essentials. We're going to get the truck fixed. We'll get that back. So the girl that brought the 12 person tent, she's like, I'll grab my tent, just picks it up out of there. None of us even flinched to think about the fact that this little tiny four foot 11 girl hooked a 12 person tent on her shoulder and started walking. We just grab our supplies, which for me is my clothes, my bag chair. I got everything out of the truck. So we walk all the way in on foot, check in, get to campsite, start setting up. And she goes, oh no, guys. She had left every pole at the house. And this was all six of us had forewent, foregone our entire camping supplies because the holy grail of a 12 person tent that she brought. And so we have an over glorified tarp and that's our camping situation. Our neighbors are nice enough to be like, hey guys, you can put your chairs under our easy up. And that's that was after day one because I woke up in the rain and my neighbor was like, buddy, you can move your chair over here at least because everybody else they they went and they bought one of those really expensive tents from Bonnaroo's like emergency shop up front. Wow. Yeah, I think it's like one hundred and twenty dollars for a two person sweat box. And so I was like, that I'm going to drink this weekend. I can't spend one hundred and twenty dollars on a box. So I slept in the rain and an easy easy in my in my bag chair for the first day and then under my friends from Louisiana's easy up for the rest of it. And that was my first experience. I had so much fun. I came back. I love this story so much because the way that you prioritize your funds, it's it is drinking and then comfort is second because I can buy comfort by the can. That's right. One more one more and you're comfortable. My God, Don Draper would kill for that that line. I find comfort in a can. So the biggest mess we've had the the the news from Jeff Quay are in my claim. All right. I've got one final question that I will ask around around the table here. You know how Vegas has residency acts and you know how like now I was somebody called me up the other day and they said, hey, you want to send somebody to see the chain smokers in the rest. I said, no. So Vegas has residency acts. If Bonnaroo had a residency act, if Bonnaroo had one act that played every year, it was the same time every year. And you knew it was going to happen. Who would it be? Warren Haynes. I knew it was going to be a my morning jacket. I knew there was going to be some sort of my morning jacket. My morning jacket would be good. My morning jacket or Warren. Yeah. I would say chance or, you know, Marcus from Muffin and Sons. I feel like they kind of grew through Bonnaroo. And again, I want to stop all of you. I think you're all taking this the wrong way. It's not who makes sense to be there. Who would you want to be there? Oh, gross. It's not a wish list. It's like, who do you think? Who do you think? Jerry Garcia's ghost. I guess Mitchell said, yes. So just as coach or something. I find I find there's a piece of the Bonnaroo experience Howard is not going to be there. She's going to be here some year. You know what I mean? So there is a there is a thing about Bonnaroo that I have missed for damn near five years. That doesn't happen anymore. And it really bugs me. There was a thing that in our camp that we all went to Camp Nut Butter every single year found the same show. And we all wanted to go no matter what. We don't agree on anything. No, there's nothing we agree with. But Sunday morning church at one o'clock on the what? It happened every year. It was Charles Bradley. It went to Mavis Staples. Everyone from Mavis Staples over and over and over. I miss church on Sunday on the what stage? I know not many people show up. That Charles Bradley show broke my heart because Charles Bradley was my favorite album of that year. But nobody came. But if there's one piece of residency that I know that the Grand Ole Opry is there, that is your residency. Residency is Grand Ole Opry. Every year, you know, Grand Ole Opry. I want Sunday church back for now. Yeah, I mean, I guess they could argue that the call I be stage is it. But that's not us. OK. Is it you're going to bother me here? It's call I. Please stop saying this. It's call. What is it or what is it? Not I can't figure out which one it is. Does anyone know which one it is? Call I. It's call I. Charles knows how to pronounce it. What is it? It's not Callie. It's call I. I'm just going to say this. By the time they move there, OK, I want to move. Let it go. By the time anybody gets there, they don't care how it's pronounced. Yeah, that's right. If you want to go see the weirdest stuff at Bonner, you go to there after three a.m. Gucci Mane. It was awesome. So I know we went through wish list, not Dolly. Who do you think will absolutely be there? Barry Porter. Tame Impala. Yeah, sir. Yeah. Daniel. Oh, same. They're my favorite. I am. They will be there. Unashamedly a Kevin fanboy. Lizzo. Lizzo. Yeah. You know anything about that? I'll let you know. Oh, no. All I know. All I know is there has not been a schedule made for Lizzo for 2019 or 2020. Nate's a tool. Yeah. Yeah. For me, you know, the the 17, 15 to 17 year old me really wants to see Rage there this year. I don't think it's going to happen, but I would really like to see Rage on this machine. Why do you think it won't happen? I'll put every dollar that I have in my paycheck on it would not happen. Well, and that's what I'm thinking, too. I don't think it would happen. But you know, that would be if I'm looking at the landscape of who I want to see. You know, the one thing I really want to see kind of, you know, I'm certain I'm going into my sixth year. So I feel like I'm starting to become an old vet at this point in time. I really want to see Boner bring back the true legacy act. Yeah. If they did that this year, who do you think it would be? I've been saying it might be Springsteen, but I don't know. What do you think? Yeah. Yeah. You guys have got to see. That's what I got to stop you at. You guys got to start thinking about dollars. There's no possible way they're going to bring Bruce Springsteen, Tame Impala, Tool, Rage Spikes Machine on and on and on. You got to think about money here. These things are not going to happen. Yeah. I mean, of course, the logistics and the financials around it, you know, I think. And that's one of the things that I remember that my fond memories of like the 15, you know, like the 15 year, you know, you go back and look at the lineup and you had a true legacy, although Billy Joel. Now it makes sense why Billy Joel cut his set short because he had an interaction with Brad. That makes complete sense now. Those kind of doofuses. Do you know how many people when I got back to camp said, oh, Billy Joel's never coming back to Bonnaroo. He hates Bonnaroo because of the one interaction he had with some doper. He was going to do an encore, but you stopped it from happening. Killed it. Yeah. The thing about Rage Spikes Machine, here's the other thing that I wanted to say earlier, because, by the way, I know that there was a there was some sort of like hubbub about the Coldplay thing that I said. I'm saying that. Let me make sure that I clarify what I said about Coldplay. Coldplay is not going to do 2020 and 2021 because what I was told is that they do tours one way. They do an album, then they go silence and then they do another album and then they do a arena tour. They've done every tour that way since they were Coldplay. So it was based on every single thing that has happened in the past. If it was going to go forward and the person told me that it's not going to be any different than the past, you can go ahead and say it's not going to happen in the next two years. If they go silent this year because they just put out an album, they're going to wait for another album. That means the next album, they're going to do nothing but arenas. So again, be that as it may, it's not a complete out. I'm sure they could do thing after thing here and there. But based on everything that I was told that they're going to do this exact same structure as they've done every other album. Secondly, the thing about Coachella, give me an artist that has done a reunion show at Coachella that has also done it at Bonnaroo. Cool. Earth, Wind and Fire. Found one. Now give me a headliner. No, it's not Earth, Wind and Fire. On the Rage Against the Machine level, when you go back and see all of the things that Coachella has done, it does not translate to anything that Bonnaroo does. So when somebody says Rage Against the Machine, I would love that. I would kill for that. I think you have a better shot of profits against Rage than Rage Against the Machine. So Brad, you're being the voice of reason about our expectations. Because every year our expectations go here and we all get the line up and we're all like, ah, womp, womp. So what do you think would be realistic names for a legacy slot for next year? Where did this Diana Ross thing come from? That came from Kyle the Bonaroovian. He's a big fanboy. Okay, because he likes it. Okay. You know, I don't know. I don't know what the legacy would be. This is not where I'm good. I don't do well with the guesses. I did a mock line up one time like ten years ago and it was the worst thing that I've ever done. It was so stupid. I look like a fool. So in terms of expectations in the line up, me and Sarah do the same thing every year. We pay no attention to any of the rumors. Sometimes it comes across, but we wait until the line up drops. And then somebody always does the Lord's work and sorts the line up by genre. And we just go to genres we like and listen to shit we've never heard of. And it's just Christmas every year. Even by mocks. Yeah, Kikagakumoyo is actually one of the best things I found this year. We're going to go see them again Tuesday. They're my favorite show. Mitchell, what was the jazz infusion band that you turned me on to? I met you there. You were in your skeleton costume last year. Oh, God. It was like three pieces. Oh, the comet comes. The comet is coming. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The comet is coming. And the only reason we found those is because I was like, chaotic jazz. Let me hit play on that. Psychedelic jazz and just free form, anything jazz. I'll play you a listen. That's how I found Mastodon because somebody told me jazz metal and I was like, that you just checked two boxes off. Man, you get really high. Let me just, you know, just to kind of piggyback on what Mitchell was saying is, you know, when you run these camps, you know, we try to stay relevant with the rumors for our campers and for everybody there. And, you know, a lot of it's really just to kind of try to keep the energy up and everything. But I'm much like Mitchell, you know, it's like I will not really, you know, and Daniel said it best earlier, you know, I come for the people and stay for the music. I don't, I mean, I could really care. You know, a lot of Bonnaroo lately, and let me say this, let me preface with this. I think that the music industry is starting to change because you don't see the traditional album tour, album tour anymore. So and, you know, like the festivals being so saturated to me in the last couple of years, it's like I don't even care who's coming because it's such a toss up at this point in time. It's such a toss up because there's no there's no real way to put it into a formula and say, you know what? OK, well, Tim and Paula just dropped the album. OK, so now they're going to tour. But no band's really doing that traditionally anymore. And I think you were talking about this a minute ago. Like it just you just don't know. And so for us, when we run these communities, it's just like, you know, we try to keep the hype up for the participation. But really, here's what I know. I know that stadium tours, arena tours are going to pay a lot more than festivals because you do a lot of them at once. And one person buys all of them. Right. So if you're going to a festival, it's going to be a one off. And it's usually if you go by the money, you're going to do a festival on an off year. Not many people do a festival on an on year of an album because an on year of an album gets you all the heat. All right. So I don't know what that means for most people. I don't. But you're not getting the Eagles. You're not getting the Eagles. It's a three and a half million dollar show. It's not happening. You know, so it's all I know about the lineup is that every year it always underwhelms us and we always are shocked by what is being paid to the top line. And if I can again, going back to what I said earlier, my chemical romance is one point five million dollars on the base. Are you going to find anyone that is going to make a break their Bonnaroo purchase on my chemical romance? No, I don't think that you don't want to be in a field. Plus, I'm not doing many shows. So you better you better find you better find these goth black kids. You know, we're not the black and you better find them and want them to buy every one of the tickets available because they're not going to do it. And at one point five million dollars are going to exist on the top line of your lineup. And does that sell a ticket to everybody else? It doesn't. So let me let me give you the example. If the if the lineup is tool vampire weekend in my chemical romance, do you think that sells tickets? I don't think so. We're all saying the same thing. Kevin is saying it that the organizers of these things have learned the experience has become as much a part of it as the lineup. Yeah, that's right. They don't have to spend. They don't need to spend three million to get, you know, because because the money that they're spending out in the campsites that are experiences by Haley Williams, et cetera. Do you remember back in 2009, 2008, David Byrne curated an entire stage? He curated that tent, you know, and he brought St. Vincent and people that we didn't know about at the time. Andy DeFranco was on that stage and he curated an entire stage. Now they're taking that idea and putting it out in the campsites. And to me, for for the people that that live in the the G.A. world, that to me is such a better experience than if if insert person here that I'm dying to see at a show you guys have created. Yeah. And that's the thing. And I'm sure you get we were talking about the residency earlier and I'm sure you guys saw this on the news as well. Where, you know, you have these residency programs in Vegas where one of the big nightclubs just shut down because the asking price of the artist was way beyond what they could because the participation was in there. Do you think that these festivals start to run into that problem that they're not going to be able to book these talents because of the asking price? And that's why Bonnaroo may be ahead of the game of creating these outside experience, which then brings it's like, you know, you look at the lineup every year and you're like, who's the headline is going to be? But really, I mean, we could probably take a poll here. You know, how many of us have really got excited about the headline is we found more enjoyment in the midcard. Right. And so it seems like that's where maybe these festivals are starting to go because these artists asking price are so much. I mean, just to add on to what Kevin said, I'm not going to Bonnaroo for the music, honestly. And that's a good truth. I'm going to Bonnaroo for the community. It's a vacation for me. It's a way to get away from my normal life. It's a way to get away from work. And I can't be the only person out there that's going to Bonnaroo for the community just to go to Bonnaroo for that aspect. I mean, I honestly can't be the only person who I mean, honestly, you know, to me, and I'm going to say this in the honest to God's truth, Nickelback could play Bonnaroo and I would still buy a ticket. I would throw down at a terrible. I would still buy a ticket and go. I would still buy. You just got voted off of the campsite. Bye. Bye. My friends make the concert. The talent on stage just adds flavor. I mean, I would I would probably stay in the campsite all day and probably drink and get drunk and do whatever. But it's so funny. It's so funny you say that about Nickelback. I was listening to a podcast recently where somebody said the exact same thing of, you know, it's like. But if Nickelback was booked, there'd be so many people there because of that cult. You know, in a weird way, I can actually see Nickelback at 111 in a very strange way. They would make a lot of sense at 111 Fest. If Brian Stone talks right now, I'm going to lose my mind. I got a microphone again. I mean, this is my gear. I got a microphone again. Her point is that is an incredible point. Nickelback doesn't matter. It's a great point. And they have a couple of songs that are OK. Thank God you jumped in. I saved the show at an hour and fifteen. Well, first off, we thank you so much for coming down, the whole Roo Bus crowd and so many Bonnaroo people. It really does. And I'll say this about the Camp Red Roo before I get to Roo Bus, the Camp Red Roo people. First off, you guys coming means the world. But yeah, I guess. But what you guys have created and what you've done out in whatever pod you find yourself in, to me is exactly why I'm so dying to be a part of Bonnaroo every single year, even in the trees. You guys personify what the experience is. You took a blank piece of land and then you created a world around it. And I love everything about that. So all the credit in the world to you guys. Smuggle on all magic. Yeah. You smuggle what in? He means smuggle magic. He means that metaphorically. No wonder you were there for 12 hours. So Roo Bus, thank you so much for coming and being a part of this and supporting us the way that you have. You guys took a chance two years ago to do the Repeat Repeat thing. And in a weird way, in a weird way, I feel like that Repeat Repeat show at least created a community that changed the conversation. And I don't know if this podcast exists without like Jared and Kristen. They are so great to us and they made us feel like there was a community out there that we didn't know existed. And you guys started that. So congratulations creating something really, really well done. You're asking who should be the house band. It's them because they embody so much. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, those guys are terrific. I kept I was thinking about them after listening to your podcast with them. They're just yes. That's that's exactly the word that's them. Yes. So you want what do you need? What can we do? Yes. So I'm going to finish this with going around real quick. I want to find we are in November. We've got a month and there's a month before the hangout line that comes out the first week of December. Coachella will be right before that, my bet. And then Bonnaroo first of the year. Let's go around to just tell me what to listen to between now and then. Give me an artist to listen to between now and then. Matt Mason. Matt Mason. We've had him right down the road. I've had him in my in my building. He's terrific. I love him. Yeah. I mentioned this on our Twitter the other day. One that I'm really into is called Fly Golden Eagle. Kind of a psychedelic rock band out of Nashville. I think they'd be a good ad. I've seen them listen to the new Third Eye Blind album. Man, you didn't have a Nickelback track you want to share. Third Eye Blind. Me and Charles will go into a story about that some other time. OK, I'd love to hear the story. But man, I love that smash mouth that you're about to tell me about. No, I'm actually never listen to Nickelback. Please take his mic away from him. Hey, I'm the guy in control. Unfortunately, I like Michael Kowanda. Yes. God, I love him so much. I love that new project. Or Labyrinth. Sorry, I got nothing. I want to hear the was it the Blam Blams you were talking about? They're incredible. OK. Yes. OK. They are literally a mix of LCD sound system, Queen, The Beatles, The Bowie, everything. Like amazing stage presence, like incredible vocals, incredible like musicianship. Awesome. All right. So he's been sitting here quietly the whole time. What is your name? My name is Zach. I've been listening. Can you hear me on this thing? OK, everybody can hear me. All right. I've been listening to a lot of back since I saw him at Shaking Nees this past. Yeah. His new album Hyperspace is coming out next month as actually it's coming out this month in November in like two weeks time. So and from the songs I've been hearing, you know, back is eclectic. I mean, he's really he's back like I mean, he's his own genre. It's like it's going to like a vapor wave sort of kind of style. You know, I did. Yeah. So keep an eye out on Hyperspace. New album by Beck. Beck, up and coming artist. Mitchell, you got anything? You got something for Mitchell? You got a thing for Mitchell? Let me see here. What do you got? Give me something to listen to. Well, in all honesty, I'm going to tell you to go into the past. And there's a genre called Nya Rock that is so incredible. Oh, my God. It's like Zydeco jazz funk. Imagine like Lonnie Liston Smith with the second line. All right. At the table, Brian and Nate, you got to get an idea what you're listening to right now. Pearl Jam. Almond Brothers all weekend long. Three days of Almond Brothers back to back. Have you all heard about Blackberry Smoke? Then the Pearl Jam cover band. OK, great. All right. So I'm going to. Les Zeppelin. How am I supposed to follow that? OK, you're not. So if if if I got to and she knows it, the King Princess albums, the best album of the year is absolutely the absolute best album of the year. I'm obsessed with it. But I've found a girl. I found a girl in England. Her name is Litany. She is followed by nobody. She has no management. She has no record label. And if I was an A&R guy tomorrow, I'd be dragging her from England to America to bring her to my boss. Her name is Litany. Listen to My Dude. Listen to her new song, which is something I don't remember. But Litany is my girl. She is unbelievable. And she sounds like every sort of like King Princess slash her outfit that you can find. I'm obsessed with her. There you go. That's what I got. We go. All right. So Barry, anything else? Thanks to the Moxie. Thanks to you guys for traveling up here. That means a bunch. Thanks. Not only thanks to the guys, but thanks to the Moxie at the Moxie. Hashtag at the Moxie. The Moxie Chattanooga has been more, more, more than gracious than I could have ever expected. They let us drive a car into their patio. How do you write? I know you're going to laugh, but we need to thank Lord Taco. Yes, Lord Taco, by the way. If you want to follow Lord Taco at Russell on the Bus is the guy that puts literally everything that we do. He is the guy that that is the heart and soul of it. And then, of course, that guy. Thanks to Brian and Nate. One last thing. One last thing. I'll make this super quick. And Nate over here, by the way. Sorry, Daniel. I'll make this super quick. Take under minute. We're going to get over each other. One important thing that it's always been a mantra for us with the rebus is keeping this community going. Continuing to radiate positivity. I want us all to recognize that we have a lot of new people coming in every year. It is our responsibility as the upperclassmen to continue to pass on the code and radiating positivity because we want to keep this community going forever. That is really wonderful. I was never good in high school, so I don't know if I'm the best person to do that. You suck up positivity. Today's rave babies are tomorrow's wooketry. Hey, man, can I borrow like everything? The What Podcast. Barry Courter, Brad Steiner, Daniel from the Roo Bus, the whole Roo Bus crew. Thank you so much for coming and thank you for listening. I guess we'll see you pretty soon.